Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #51

[CTGrammy]

‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

Quote from the article.
‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

“I don’t need any reason other than that,” Schoenhorn said as to why he should be given the report. “I’m entitled to it. It’s a statement from my client that was filed with the court in May 2019.”

JS does in fact have access to the report in question.

The issue for JS is that he cannot use the report as evidence if the report is sealed. Nor can he tamper with the Jury pool by way of disclosure to the media.

NP was Removed from Fd's representation in Family Court because he revealed contents of the sealed report to the media.

NP was reprimanded in that he could 'look' at the report At the courthouse, but could Not have a copy for himself and Definitely could Not reveal it's contents to outside entities, Especially the media.

JS is Outrageous and Michelle Troconis and Mama A are fueling his fire in the case of the Brutal Murder of Jennifer Farber dulos.

IMO.

 

[Tink56]

‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

Thanks for posting this Cloudydiamond. Schoenhorn continues to be whiny and windy. There is no reason for the family report to be part of the criminal case.

Contrary to Schoenhorn's claim in the article posted, the family report was NEVER officially filed in family court in May.

The "expert" psychologist refused to finish his testimony, which might be an indication of his professional conduct. Therefore, the study was never a part of the official family court file. It was not entered into the criminal court file in May (there was no criminal court file in May of 2019) or any other time, as far as I know.

MT just wants to know what the report said about her.

Schoenhorn is grabbing a morsel and trying to make it a complete meal. His behavior, IMO, is his continuing attempt to make MT a victim rather than a active member of the conspiracy to murder JFD.

Schoenhorn should go back to writing gossip. IMO...IMO...

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Thanks for posting this Cloudydiamond. Schoenhorn continues to be whiny and windy. There is no reason for the family report to be part of the criminal case.

Contrary to Schoenhorn's claim in the article posted, the family report was NEVER officially filed in family court in May.

The "expert" psychologist refused to finish his testimony, which might be an indication of his professional conduct. Therefore, the study was never a part of the official family court file. It was not entered into the criminal court file in May (there was no criminal court file in May of 2019) or any other time, as far as I know.

MT just wants to know what the report said about her.

Schoenhorn is grabbing a morsel and trying to make it a complete meal. His behavior, IMO, is his continuing attempt to make MT a victim rather than a active member of the conspiracy to murder JFD.

Schoenhorn should go back to writing gossip. IMO...IMO...

She sure does want to know!

Enjoying her freedom today on Talcott Mountain according to her IG post today. Too much freedom given to a cold hearted accomplice to murder. Infuriates me that she will be spending Thanksgiving posting on IG how "thankful" she is for her life. While poor Jennifer's family will spend another holiday season mourning the loss of their mother, daughter, sister and friend.

 

[citygirl]

She sure does want to know!

Enjoying her freedom today on Talcott Mountain according to her IG post today. Too much freedom given to a cold hearted accomplice to murder. Infuriates me that she will be spending Thanksgiving posting on IG how "thankful" she is for her life. While poor Jennifer's family will spend another holiday season mourning the loss of their mother, daughter, sister and friend.

Such a beautiful spot!
UGH.
MOO.

 

[Tink56]

DBM

 

[pernickety]

Thanks for posting this Cloudydiamond. Schoenhorn continues to be whiny and windy. There is no reason for the family report to be part of the criminal case.

Contrary to Schoenhorn's claim in the article posted, the family report was NEVER officially filed in family court in May.

The "expert" psychologist refused to finish his testimony, which might be an indication of his professional conduct. Therefore, the study was never a part of the official family court file. It was not entered into the criminal court file in May (there was no criminal court file in May of 2019) or any other time, as far as I know.

MT just wants to know what the report said about her.

Schoenhorn is grabbing a morsel and trying to make it a complete meal. His behavior, IMO, is his continuing attempt to make MT a victim rather than a active member of the conspiracy to murder JFD.

Schoenhorn should go back to writing gossip. IMO...IMO...

Connecticut court bars release of arsenic killer’s records | fox61.com

A fairly recent CT Supreme Court decision barred the release of patient records re mental health (citing, as I recall, a CT statute) from the institution where she had been committed. And in that case the patient—the notorious murderer Amy Archer Gilligan, who inspired “Arsenic and Old Lace”-- was long deceased.

 

[LosAngeles]

Such a beautiful spot!
UGH.
MOO.

Hopefully, in 5 days we will see her at the Stamford courthouse. Has the November 24th trial date changed? There are so many delays, delays, delays so I could be wrong.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Hopefully, in 5 days we will see her at the Stamford courthouse. Has the November 24th trial date changed? There are so many delays, delays, delays so I could be wrong.

The article I posted above says they are conducting it remotely, if I read that correctly.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Hopefully, in 5 days we will see her at the Stamford courthouse. Has the November 24th trial date changed? There are so many delays, delays, delays so I could be wrong.

Quoted from the SA article:
"Schoenhorn is expected to argue for the report to be unsealed when Troconis appears by video next week in state Superior Court in Stamford".

 

[Tink56]

Quoted from the SA article:
"Schoenhorn is expected to argue for the report to be unsealed when Troconis appears by video next week in state Superior Court in Stamford".

Maybe appearing remotely will enable Attorney Schoenhorn to be more organized, to maintain a train of thought, and to cogently present an argument, IMO...MOO

Otherewise, MT and her family and fans may be disappointed. Again, JMO....

 

[Seattle1]

‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

Nov 18, 2020

[..]

Schoenhorn has been arguing for months to receive numerous pieces of evidence from Chief State’s Attorney Richard J. Colangelo Jr., who is prosecuting the case.

The contents of the report have been contested by both sides with each saying it made the other parent appear unstable. The Dulos divorce was one of the most litigated cases in Connecticut’s family courts at the time with close to 400 legal actions.

A family court judge initially sealed the contents from public view after the proceedings in mid-May 2019. The court-chosen psychiatrist, Dr. Stephen Herman, who crafted the report based on interviews with family members, including the children and Troconis, refused to complete his testimony during the hearing.

The judge later struck the report from the record since the hearing was never completed.

In October 2019, attorney Norm Pattis, who was representing Fotis Dulos in the criminal charges, revealed some of the report’s contents, claiming it showed Jennifer Dulos was unstable.

Pattis denied his comments violated the family court order and filed a motion to have the document unsealed so it could be used in his client’s defense. However, the report has remained sealed to defense attorneys.

__________________

There's a reason the court struck Dr. Herman's report from the record!

I recall Dr. Herman being challenged during cross examination and leaving the witness stand, failing to complete his testimony, making his $40,000 custody report a moot point in family court.

IMO, Herman sounded more like a guy that had a man-crush on FD than an independent evaluator. He literally walked out of the courtroom here -- leaving no reason for Herman's biased report to ever be read by Attorney Shoenhorn when it had no bearing in family court.

Reportedly, after meeting with FD after JD filed for divorce in 2017, he deemed FD a “gregarious and confident person” with no psychopathic tendencies. This while FD's lawyer was promoting that GF be mentally evaluated for her fitness to be caring for her grandchildren -- alledging GF had a lengthy psychiatric history. Obviously, FD and his attorney's attacks on JD's fitness as a parent were also not spared.

I especially doubt that Herman's report included that Judge Heller restricted FD's contact with his children after he lied about them having contact with MT.

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[Chicago54]

‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

Nov 18, 2020

[..]

Schoenhorn has been arguing for months to receive numerous pieces of evidence from Chief State’s Attorney Richard J. Colangelo Jr., who is prosecuting the case.

The contents of the report have been contested by both sides with each saying it made the other parent appear unstable. The Dulos divorce was one of the most litigated cases in Connecticut’s family courts at the time with close to 400 legal actions.

A family court judge initially sealed the contents from public view after the proceedings in mid-May 2019. The court-chosen psychiatrist, Dr. Stephen Herman, who crafted the report based on interviews with family members, including the children and Troconis, refused to complete his testimony during the hearing.

The judge later struck the report from the record since the hearing was never completed.

In October 2019, attorney Norm Pattis, who was representing Fotis Dulos in the criminal charges, revealed some of the report’s contents, claiming it showed Jennifer Dulos was unstable.

Pattis denied his comments violated the family court order and filed a motion to have the document unsealed so it could be used in his client’s defense. However, the report has remained sealed to defense attorneys.

__________________

There's a reason the court struck Dr. Herman's report from the record!

I recall Dr. Herman being challenged during cross examination and leaving the witness stand, failing to complete his testimony, making his $40,000 custody report a moot point in family court.

IMO, Herman sounded more like a guy that had a man-crush on FD than an independent evaluator. He literally walked out of the courtroom here -- leaving no reason for Herman's biased report to ever be read by Attorney Shoenhorn when it had no bearing in family court.

Reportedly, after meeting with FD after JD filed for divorce in 2017, he deemed FD a “gregarious and confident person” with no psychopathic tendencies. This while FD's lawyer was promoting that GF be mentally evaluated for her fitness to be caring for her grandchildren -- alledging GF had a lengthy psychiatric history. Obviously, FD and his attorney's attacks on JD's fitness as a parent were also not spared.

I especially doubt that Herman's report included that Judge Heller restricted FD's contact with his children after he lied about them having contact with MT.

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IMO I don’t think there is a chance in hell of the state of CT releasing this report. In fact, I think Mr. Shoe-Horn-in-any-sliver-of-unreasonable-doubt is counting on this. He doesn’t truly want “the report”, he wants exactly what he is getting; the perception there is a vital piece of exculpatory evidence, that is being deliberately withheld. His over the top, often non-logical, blustering protestations and demands are just part of his dog and pony show.

It’s all part of the ‘don’t look over there at the blood, the DNA, the changing testimony, the cctv, the handwritten timetable....Look over hear at the report they won’t give us!!! They must be holding it back because it must say MT is just the sweetest most kind most caring mother alive-one that would never hurt a fly.’

Isn’t that the sound bite being pitched to the public by the Shoe-Horn? It’s a calculated PR defense. Take a look at the IG. The lengthy video of the caring mother ‘remotely homeschooling ‘ in Spanish yesterday was laughable. Covid may have hit her most beloved Daddy, but it sure has helped MT. It’s given time for the ugly duckling to slowly transform into the nature loving, award winning, nephew doting, cookie baking, family valuing, art producing, hard working ( at whatever the import of the day is), God fearing, church going, Spanish speaking soft smiling, gentle innocent naive swan. MT and Shoe seem to want nothing more from this latest ‘ you just can’t believe how this innocent person is suffering’ distraction, than what it is, a distraction. And a hope and a prayer that the public forgets the crotch grabbing, husband stealing, living in JF’s house in defiance of a court order, brazen, seemingly covered in evidence, Opportunist. And maybe a kernel of hope into the appeal courtroom, cuz that what I truly believe the outraged lawyer is really trying to Shoe-Horn open-the door to the appeal process once MT is convicted. SH has been littering his appeal stage with his set up; all the egregious injustices-from her movement restrictions, to her suffering as a long distance mother and daughter, to being denied the opportunity to speak her native tongue, to her not being able to show that ONE single psychiatrist thought she was the Most Sane Person Ever!!! And of course showed at the same time what a bad bad unstable person the victim was.
And if in some miracle they did get the report, and Mt wasn’t painted exactly the hue they wanted her to be, it would be another injustice...but I willing to bet on the fact SH has already read it...but that’s another lengthy post....

...getting the report, not getting it? SH doesn’t care, it’s a win/win either way, but IMO it suits him even better for it never to see the light of day.

MOOMOOOMOO

 

[Jmoose]

IMO I don’t think there is a chance in hell of the state of CT releasing this report. In fact, I think Mr. Shoe-Horn-in-any-sliver-of-unreasonable-doubt is counting on this. He doesn’t truly want “the report”, he wants exactly what he is getting; the perception there is a vital piece of exculpatory evidence, that is being deliberately withheld. His over the top, often non-logical, blustering protestations and demands are just part of his dog and pony show.

It’s all part of the ‘don’t look over there at the blood, the DNA, the changing testimony, the cctv, the handwritten timetable....Look over hear at the report they won’t give us!!! They must be holding it back because it must say MT is just the sweetest most kind most caring mother alive-one that would never hurt a fly.’

Isn’t that the sound bite being pitched to the public by the Shoe-Horn? It’s a calculated PR defense. Take a look at the IG. The lengthy video of the caring mother ‘remotely homeschooling ‘ in Spanish yesterday was laughable. Covid may have hit her most beloved Daddy, but it sure has helped MT. It’s given time for the ugly duckling to slowly transform into the nature loving, award winning, nephew doting, cookie baking, family valuing, art producing, hard working ( at whatever the import of the day is), God fearing, church going, Spanish speaking soft smiling, gentle innocent naive swan. MT and Shoe seem to want nothing more from this latest ‘ you just can’t believe how this innocent person is suffering’ distraction, than what it is, a distraction. And a hope and a prayer that the public forgets the crotch grabbing, husband stealing, living in JF’s house in defiance of a court order, brazen, seemingly covered in evidence, Opportunist. And maybe a kernel of hope into the appeal courtroom, cuz that what I truly believe the outraged lawyer is really trying to Shoe-Horn open-the door to the appeal process once MT is convicted. SH has been littering his appeal stage with his set up; all the egregious injustices-from her movement restrictions, to her suffering as a long distance mother and daughter, to being denied the opportunity to speak her native tongue, to her not being able to show that ONE single psychiatrist thought she was the Most Sane Person Ever!!! And of course showed at the same time what a bad bad unstable person the victim was.
And if in some miracle they did get the report, and Mt wasn’t painted exactly the hue they wanted her to be, it would be another injustice...but I willing to bet on the fact SH has already read it...but that’s another lengthy post....

...getting the report, not getting it? SH doesn’t care, it’s a win/win either way, but IMO it suits him even better for it never to see the light of day.

MOOMOOOMOO

I agree wholeheartedly with what you said here. He doesn’t really want the report, because logically, it doesn’t matter how unstable Jennifer was-they know she didn’t kill herself-she was murdered by someone(s) more unstable than she, since she couldn’t have hidden herself after all of the blood loss in her garage. And-didn’t ask Fd and MT to disappear the trash related to the cleanup of it. It is, as you say, a dog and pony show. That psychiatric report is absolutely irrelevant, aside from JS’s ridiculous assertion that evidence is being withheld from the defense that will go a long way to exonerating MT.

 

[kshultz06082]

‘Why are they withholding it?’: Attorney in Jennifer Dulos case wants psych report

Nov 18, 2020

[..]

Schoenhorn has been arguing for months to receive numerous pieces of evidence from Chief State’s Attorney Richard J. Colangelo Jr., who is prosecuting the case.

The contents of the report have been contested by both sides with each saying it made the other parent appear unstable. The Dulos divorce was one of the most litigated cases in Connecticut’s family courts at the time with close to 400 legal actions.

A family court judge initially sealed the contents from public view after the proceedings in mid-May 2019. The court-chosen psychiatrist, Dr. Stephen Herman, who crafted the report based on interviews with family members, including the children and Troconis, refused to complete his testimony during the hearing.

The judge later struck the report from the record since the hearing was never completed.

In October 2019, attorney Norm Pattis, who was representing Fotis Dulos in the criminal charges, revealed some of the report’s contents, claiming it showed Jennifer Dulos was unstable.

Pattis denied his comments violated the family court order and filed a motion to have the document unsealed so it could be used in his client’s defense. However, the report has remained sealed to defense attorneys.

__________________

There's a reason the court struck Dr. Herman's report from the record!

I recall Dr. Herman being challenged during cross examination and leaving the witness stand, failing to complete his testimony, making his $40,000 custody report a moot point in family court.

IMO, Herman sounded more like a guy that had a man-crush on FD than an independent evaluator. He literally walked out of the courtroom here -- leaving no reason for Herman's biased report to ever be read by Attorney Shoenhorn when it had no bearing in family court.

Reportedly, after meeting with FD after JD filed for divorce in 2017, he deemed FD a “gregarious and confident person” with no psychopathic tendencies. This while FD's lawyer was promoting that GF be mentally evaluated for her fitness to be caring for her grandchildren -- alledging GF had a lengthy psychiatric history. Obviously, FD and his attorney's attacks on JD's fitness as a parent were also not spared.

I especially doubt that Herman's report included that Judge Heller restricted FD's contact with his children after he lied about them having contact with MT.

PressReader.com - Your favorite newspapers and magazines.

Was this hearing recorded? I would like to see what caused the dr to refuse to continue his testimony. If there is a link, could someone share it please?

 

[Tink56]

Was this hearing recorded? I would like to see what caused the dr to refuse to continue his testimony. If there is a link, could someone share it please?

This was in family court. There is no video. The entire family court record is sealed at this point.

The report was never placed in the family court record, either, as the testimony was never finished. NP was unable to get an official copy. He only had the copy that FD managed to steal from his attorney. I believe the divorce attorneys and the GAL are the only ones who should have been privy to the report.

Schoenhorn is playing the throw everything against the wall. I can't say it better than @Chicago54 said it. MT's attorney is conducting a PR campaign to let us all know what sweetie (don't forget demure) person Michi is. (Contrary to some social media posts showing the real MT...just saying.) IMO...MOO

 

[pernickety]

IMO I don’t think there is a chance in hell of the state of CT releasing this report. In fact, I think Mr. Shoe-Horn-in-any-sliver-of-unreasonable-doubt is counting on this. He doesn’t truly want “the report”, he wants exactly what he is getting; the perception there is a vital piece of exculpatory evidence, that is being deliberately withheld. His over the top, often non-logical, blustering protestations and demands are just part of his dog and pony show.

It’s all part of the ‘don’t look over there at the blood, the DNA, the changing testimony, the cctv, the handwritten timetable....Look over hear at the report they won’t give us!!! They must be holding it back because it must say MT is just the sweetest most kind most caring mother alive-one that would never hurt a fly.’

Isn’t that the sound bite being pitched to the public by the Shoe-Horn? It’s a calculated PR defense. Take a look at the IG. The lengthy video of the caring mother ‘remotely homeschooling ‘ in Spanish yesterday was laughable. Covid may have hit her most beloved Daddy, but it sure has helped MT. It’s given time for the ugly duckling to slowly transform into the nature loving, award winning, nephew doting, cookie baking, family valuing, art producing, hard working ( at whatever the import of the day is), God fearing, church going, Spanish speaking soft smiling, gentle innocent naive swan. MT and Shoe seem to want nothing more from this latest ‘ you just can’t believe how this innocent person is suffering’ distraction, than what it is, a distraction. And a hope and a prayer that the public forgets the crotch grabbing, husband stealing, living in JF’s house in defiance of a court order, brazen, seemingly covered in evidence, Opportunist. And maybe a kernel of hope into the appeal courtroom, cuz that what I truly believe the outraged lawyer is really trying to Shoe-Horn open-the door to the appeal process once MT is convicted. SH has been littering his appeal stage with his set up; all the egregious injustices-from her movement restrictions, to her suffering as a long distance mother and daughter, to being denied the opportunity to speak her native tongue, to her not being able to show that ONE single psychiatrist thought she was the Most Sane Person Ever!!! And of course showed at the same time what a bad bad unstable person the victim was.
And if in some miracle they did get the report, and Mt wasn’t painted exactly the hue they wanted her to be, it would be another injustice...but I willing to bet on the fact SH has already read it...but that’s another lengthy post....

...getting the report, not getting it? SH doesn’t care, it’s a win/win either way, but IMO it suits him even better for it never to see the light of day.

MOOMOOOMOO

The only reason I can see for JS/MT to want that report is to use it to bolster a Gone-Girl theory, (borrowed from Pattis.) In a murder case there’s no defense in blaming a victim unless it’s self-defense—that the victim was threatening imminent physical harm to either the defendant or another person and had to be stopped. If the psych report alleges that JFD was not a fit custodial parent—that wouldn’t be evidence to support a reason for killing her. JS/MT would have to allege that because JFD’s body wasn’t found, she wasn’t really murdered, but disappeared of her own volition. But a significant part of her body was found—her blood on her clothing and other things FD and MT disposed of or tried to dispose of, like the seat of the truck FD tried to get rid of. That’s more bodily evidence than was found of the victim in the CT wood-chipper murder—only a crown from one of her teeth, as I recall.
And $40,000 for a psych report?

 

[Jmoose]

The only reason I can see for JS/MT to want that report is to use it to bolster a Gone-Girl theory, (borrowed from Pattis.) In a murder case there’s no defense in blaming a victim unless it’s self-defense—that the victim was threatening imminent physical harm to either the defendant or another person and had to be stopped. If the psych report alleges that JFD was not a fit custodial parent—that wouldn’t be evidence to support a reason for killing her. JS/MT would have to allege that because JFD’s body wasn’t found, she wasn’t really murdered, but disappeared of her own volition. But a significant part of her body was found—her blood on her clothing and other things FD and MT disposed of or tried to dispose of, like the seat of the truck FD tried to get rid of. That’s more bodily evidence than was found of the victim in the CT wood-chipper murder—only a crown from one of her teeth, as I recall.
And $40,000 for a psych report?

Sick, right?

 

[Niner]

@Tink56 - just going thru my early Nov. court hearings - and just wondering if his Divorce (#HHD-FA19-6105839-S ) has any updated court dates yet?

TIA!

 

[Tink56]

@Tink56 - just going thru my early Nov. court hearings - and just wondering if his Divorce (#HHD-FA19-6105839-S ) has any updated court dates yet?

TIA!

Morning Niner......the latest, nothing on the official calendar:

Scheduled Court Dates as of 11/20/2020
HHD-FA19-6105839-S - MAWHINNEY, KENT D. v. HADDOCK MAWHINNEY, CHERRY ONGOCO
# Date Time Event Description Status
No Events Scheduled

 

[Niner]

Morning Niner......the latest, nothing on the official calendar:

Scheduled Court Dates as of 11/20/2020
HHD-FA19-6105839-S - MAWHINNEY, KENT D. v. HADDOCK MAWHINNEY, CHERRY ONGOCO
# Date Time Event Description Status
No Events Scheduled

Thanks for checking!