Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #57

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pernickety said:
I noted that too from the above video link--from the get-go MT wants to talk about JFD and her alleged diagnosis, asks Atty AB if she should talk about the "report", he stops her.
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The downright personal ignorance and willful disregard of the law from MT and the troconis crew is quite stunning and it’s sad that this it hasn’t been punished to date. My guess is that document she is referring to had special stamps all over it.

Family court did a horrific job securing its documents imo and if I recall we had a number of similar issues with sensitive documents in the hands of people who weren’t entitled to view them.

MT bringing up a court related sealed report that she legally wasn’t entitled to and then reporting on it (in English btw!) is shameful and I believe absolutely illegal.

My recollection is that the family court reports were limited to the involved parties and counsel and were otherwise sealed. MT had zero business with that report and Atty Bowman knew it.
 
afitzy said:
The downright personal ignorance and willful ignoring of the law from MT and the troconis crew is quite stunning and it’s sad that this it hasn’t been punished to date.

MT bringing up a court related report that she legally wasn’t entitled to and then reporting on it (in English btw!) is shameful and I believe absolutely illegal.

My recollection is that the family court reports were limited to the involved parties and counsel and were otherwise sealed. MT had zero business with that report and Atty Bowman knew it.
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They were sealed, and stricken from the official record, because Dr Herman refused to complete his testimony because Jennifer’s lawyer was pushing back on him. I have no doubt fD bribed that man to word his report the way he wanted. And Atty Meehan, the childrens’ GAL gave it to him for his use.
 
Jmoose said:
They were sealed, and stricken from the official record, because Dr Herman refused to complete his testimony because Jennifer’s lawyer was pushing back on him. I have no doubt fD bribed that man to word his report the way he wanted. And Atty Meehan, the childrens’ GAL gave it to him for his use.
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I'm now curious about which report MT had/has in her possession? Was it the Dr Herman discredited report or something else? The timing suggests that it might have been the discredited Herman report but its not exactly clear.

Did MT give any documents she had from FD to JS and that is why he pursued unsealing the Family Court records with the goal of weaponising them in his defense of MT? Was this issue of Family Court documents in the hands of MT and possibly JS investigated by the State? At the time it sounded like his strategy du jour was going to be the classic 'blame the victim' and put JF on trial. From some of the MT recent social media commentary along with that of her Family it sounds like MT might be trying to 'back door' this confidential sealed information into the public domain. I very much hope Atty. Weinstein is on this issue as this is a horrific way for any victim not able to defend themselves to be treated.

The idea that any confidential information from a court sealed document relating to the VICTIM was in the hands of not only MT but JS who then attempted to use it as a legal weapon or excuse for legal fishing expedition in Family Court is abhorrent to say nothing of being unethical and illegal imo and if true should be punished severely imo.

Can you imagine having a deceased VICTIM who cannot speak for themselves and their illegally obtained medical and other reports are being publicly disclosed in an interview by MT with law enforcement? Honestly, I'm not sure who is charged with legally protecting the VICTIM in this case but imo this issue should be investigated. Wonder if this was just one of the reasons that Atty Bowman possibly dropped his then client (that and chronic inability to tell the truth etc.)?

We haven't seen any civil litigation against MT or her family yet and frankly while that wouldn't be the style of GF imo perhaps if confidential sensitive information exists in the hands of MT or her representatives that could be publicly disclosed at a future date then something needs to be done to protect the privacy and legacy of the VICTIM.

Does the State know if JS possibly had illegal access to JF Family Court documents in his possession courtesy of his client MT?

Perhaps the best way to deal with the ongoing disclosure of VICTIM related confidential information or commentary would be to impose a GAG ORDER similar to what was in place with the FD litigation? This would also stop the incessant chatter from JS and the Troconis Crew at the Courthouse doors and keep the focus on what is happening inside the Court House. Food for thought....
 
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Cloudydiamond said:
I haven't seen a list, just recall this article contained a few on the list. @City Girl
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ne...OmNWo5dZ8VsLnvSVPaqgZhhgVqSWE6RUE9dyn92AiEsFU
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IDK the procedure in CT for witness lists but the article states that such lists are not required. But, in Court JS referenced a very large list so it seems like some lists might exist. Will keep looking. The reporter/reposter in the article referenced above seemed to have a list but cherry picked it rather than printing it.
 
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Diddian said:
The local press has been infuriating. Everything is paywalled and it seems like the source they most often use is the defense.

I don't generally have a problem paying for access to local news sites, but I am sure not going to pay just to hear what the defense wants out there.
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SO AGREE. That is why I typically refer to Lisa Backus and Liz Hardaway etc. and the entire Hearst crew REPOSTERS and NOT REPORTERS - no reporting or investigation work done ever as its all about clicks and easy stories imo. They aren't the only ones as Shannon Miller and NBC Connecticut in particular has been absolutely horrific in simply taking full talking points from JS verbatim and ditto for the Hartford Courant.

Given the current state of media in CT and the ability of JS to go straight to the media with copy is one of the reasons I think a GAG ORDER IS NEEDED NOW. The Judge (even on appeal if I recall correctly) approved the FD litigation Gag Order and I now think that JS has distinguished himself as being more of a media *advertiser censored* than even Atty Pattis. Thing is though that the media commentary via JS is distinctly one sided and I wonder if the Judge understands or even cares what is going on? Perhaps Atty Weinstein could address the issue with the Court on behalf of the VICTIM in the case as I'm sure citizen protests would be ignored by the Judge and State as is usually the case in CT imo.
 
afitzy said:
SO AGREE. That is why I typically refer to Lisa Backus and Liz Hardaway etc. and the entire Hearst crew REPOSTERS and NOT REPORTERS - no reporting or investigation work done ever as its all about clicks and easy stories imo. They aren't the only ones as Shannon Miller and NBC Connecticut in particular has been absolutely horrific in simply taking full talking points from JS verbatim and ditto for the Hartford Courant.

Given the current state of media in CT and the ability of JS to go straight to the media with copy is one of the reasons I think a GAG ORDER IS NEEDED NOW. The Judge (even on appeal if I recall correctly) approved the FD litigation Gag Order and I now think that JS has distinguished himself as being more of a media *advertiser censored* than even Atty Pattis. Thing is though that the media commentary via JS is distinctly one sided and I wonder if the Judge understands or even cares what is going on? Perhaps Atty Weinstein could address the issue with the Court on behalf of the VICTIM in the case as I'm sure citizen protests would be ignored by the Judge and State as is usually the case in CT imo.
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Fully agree a gag order is needed. The only page I found w/email contact info:
www.ct.egov.com

Stamford/Norwalk Judicial District Office and Court Locations and Directions

www.ct.egov.com
 
carolmaria said:
Fully agree a gag order is needed. The only page I found w/email contact info:
www.ct.egov.com

Stamford/Norwalk Judicial District Office and Court Locations and Directions

www.ct.egov.com
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Citizen protest emails might have an effect even though I don't believe there is much of a connection between the State of CT Judiciary and the citizens of the State of CT.

Its worth a shot as VICTIM shaming should never be tolerated and if MT and her family and attorney plan to release any information from a confidential report about the VICTIM that they have or had in their possession illegally they need to be stopped immediately.
 
afitzy said:
Local Media Report on Domestic Violence and the Dulos case from Fox61:
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Bravo to these people shining the focus on Domestic Violence and educating the public about the fact that DV includes not just physical violence, but coercion through intimidation and control (and in JFD's case, manipulation through the courts and through appointees by the court).

Are you listening, Colorado? (Thinking of Suzanne Morphew, remains found in Sept 2023. Her husband had been arrested and charged, but due to a multiplicity of factors, the case was dismissed without prejudice PRIOR to discovery of SM's remains. In that case, the judge disallowed evidence of domestic violence, including coercive control. Praying everyday for a re-arrest and ultimately, a trial.)
 
As a point of contrast to Fox61 covering DV in above post here we see NBC CT (Shannon Miller et. al) with a full line up ON THE COURTROOM STEPS of the Troconis Crew and Carlos Troconis saying he is putting his trust in justice and that MT is 'innocent'!

IMO this is typical Shannon Miller sensational type coverage on the topic as if gathering clips for 48 Hours etc. and this entire commentary by the Troconis Crew was no doubt orchestrated imo by JS on behalf of his client or their related PR. We then are treated to a local atty that doesn’t have a perspective on the case and evidence proceeding to make proclamations about the States case for Conspiracy.

I renew calls for a Gag Order to stop these kinds of comments to the Press.

 
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afitzy said:
As a point of contrast to Fox61 covering DV in above post here we see NBC CT (Shannon Miller et. al) with a full line up ON THE COURTROOM STEPS of the Troconis Crew and Carlos Troconis saying he is putting his trust in justice and that MT is 'innocent'!

IMO this is typical Shannon Miller sensational type coverage on the topic as if gathering clips for 48 Hours etc. and this entire commentary by the Troconis Crew was no doubt orchestrated imo by JS on behalf of his client or their related PR.

I renew calls for a Gag Order to stop these kinds of comments to the Press.

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Glad to hear toward the end of that video, that they noted the jurors appear very engaged watching the presentation of video evidence from LE.

I'd read about the blood in the garage, but seeing some of what LE saw (the many drops in multiple areas as well as - in some areas - in what appeared a pattern on the Range Rover, the bloody partial shoeprint, and the reddish smears on the garage floor), it is evident a very bloody event occurred and the blood was not all in one area (wherever an initial event occurred), but many (indicating the victim was either moving on her own during the attack OR was moved after), followed by a less-than-thorough attempt at clean-up.
 
afitzy said:
IDK, my guess is timing and slowness of Judiciary to respond. Things in the Nutmeg State move SLOWLY. My guess is that it was in process

Looks like the attached document only contains 4 pages (that I was able to read) but refers to at least 5 other related documents. Given the writer of that particular document posted and their imo highly convenient grasp of case facts to say nothing of questionable interpretation, I think its necessary to track the document trail of the issue from the beginning, read the States responses as well as the original decision and I haven't done it yet. Will add it to the list!

I do find it hard to believe that exigent circumstances for the seizure didn't exist for the MT phone as if I recall we had a similar issue at NCPD Headquarters where FD phone was taken pending search warrant and placed in airplane mode. Perhaps the issue in this case is that the search warrant for 4JC existed (unlike FD phone case) but allegedly didn't include the phone? Whole thing is odd though as another search warrant could have been obtained or I believe the initial search warrant amended. IDK the local customs on warrants to know what the law enforcement on site would have done to address the MT phone issue?

IDK, but seems logical to seize the MT phone and state it is being held pending an amendment to the search warrant or a new search warrant. Curious what the State response on the issue was and given the slowness of Judges to respond to things perhaps with time being of the essence at the scene there was no time to amend the search warrant prior to the raid on Jefferson Crossing or even get a new one for the phone. It sounds like the MT phone was siezed in good faith given the overall nature of the situation to preserve critical evidence related to a then known suspect and was appropriately placed in airplane mode.

But, in order to track this entire issue back, I believe all the documents should be found and read to understand the issue better so as to figure out what can/can't be introduced at trial as I simply don't feel comfortable relying on JS recitation of facts and certainly interpretation as presented in the X posted document.

My recollection (admittedly vague) during this period was that JS was on a charge to get the conspiracy charges removed and based on his track record my guess is that he cracked open the law books to find anything possible to accomplish his goal. Given the conspiracy charge was read at trial opening by the Judge it appears JS was not successful on altering the charges but the issue with the cell phone imo is something I need to read all the documents to better understand and feel comfortable discussing.

The above posted document though was quite interesting as this is the first I've heard that FD attempted to take a thumb drive from the premises when he was instructed to ONLY take clothing for his hotel stay until the premises could be searched by State Police.

The above document also cleared up I think my question from yesterday on drug testing of FD and MT. The document said the testing done at Troop Headquarters looked to be DNA and no mention in this document was made of any drug testing done on either FD or MT. I still do wonder if law enforcement did any drug testing? Unfortunate imo if they did not as I strongly believe substance use during this period was an issue.
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I could swear I recalled something about drug testing. It might have been that they opted not to do drug testing, though. Hard to keep all of this ugliness straight.
 
afitzy said:
As a point of contrast to Fox61 covering DV in above post here we see NBC CT (Shannon Miller et. al) with a full line up ON THE COURTROOM STEPS of the Troconis Crew and Carlos Troconis saying he is putting his trust in justice and that MT is 'innocent'!

IMO this is typical Shannon Miller sensational type coverage on the topic as if gathering clips for 48 Hours etc. and this entire commentary by the Troconis Crew was no doubt orchestrated imo by JS on behalf of his client or their related PR. We then are treated to a local atty that doesn’t have a perspective on the case and evidence proceeding to make proclamations about the States case for Conspiracy.

I renew calls for a Gag Order to stop these kinds of comments to the Press.

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If justice truly prevails here-Carlos Troconis won’t be happy.
 
afitzy said:
As a point of contrast to Fox61 covering DV in above post here we see NBC CT (Shannon Miller et. al) with a full line up ON THE COURTROOM STEPS of the Troconis Crew and Carlos Troconis saying he is putting his trust in justice and that MT is 'innocent'!

IMO this is typical Shannon Miller sensational type coverage on the topic as if gathering clips for 48 Hours etc. and this entire commentary by the Troconis Crew was no doubt orchestrated imo by JS on behalf of his client or their related PR. We then are treated to a local atty that doesn’t have a perspective on the case and evidence proceeding to make proclamations about the States case for Conspiracy.

I renew calls for a Gag Order to stop these kinds of comments to the Press.

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I think they saw rhe stmpathy generated by the Farber statement, and wanted some of that. Everybody knows that the family of the accused would not get up there and say, “yeah, she’s a creep; she did what she’s accused of”. They just don’t have any realization that this is incredibly inappropriate. Someone likened it to Scott Peterson’s family, and it does feel the same. People don’t believe it.
 
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