GUILTY DC - David Messerschmitt, 30, murdered in Washington hotel room, 9 Feb 2015 #1

[chinacat67]

Looks like "Rolaids" to me. In the line with what was probably on the bathroom sink, it makes sense.....enema, rolaids, watch, towel, curtain....MOO!!!

 

[jadejazzkayla]

I agree. Jessica Lansbury (murder she wrote) would be sipping tea by now and moving on to the next case. Lol.

it is Angela Lansbury playing Jessica fletcher. I watch her every day. one of my favorites.

 

[monkey222]

And what about outside video surveillance of perp? walking to fro hotel or transpo/vehicle. This is DC, c'mon, show the tapes..

 

[FindHG]

The POI's gait and posture look different in the reflection in the mirror, for some reason, when they come back from the elevator, the shoes are facing front, leg bent, unlike the rest of the time, the POI is crouched forward in the reflection, adjusting I assume, or on a device. When the POI first appears and approaches the hallway camera facing the entrance to the hotel, you see a dark clad person right over their shoulder, then the POI puts their gloved hand up and puffs-out their cheeks while facing the camera, do their nervous walk back toward the entrance, and back and forth, and back into sight from the elevators. At some point during all this, that dark clad person appears again and they face each other. The POI gives up on the elevator and turns the corner and is seen seconds later entering the open door to the stairwell. Just as the POI's gaze lingers into the camera, as they approach the next flight, the POI has a little misstep. The shoes, you get see sideways, at that point, as the POI adjusts their gait up, by the next flight the POI is going up like a woman, it seems to me, with her hand out to the side.

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[colette]

I went about and strewed my DH's wallet contents (no damage was done to DH, of course), and I strewed his documents and ID info and gym bag contents, as it were. It seems like somebody may have been looking for something, since Davids life didn't matter to the person doing the strewing, what could they have possibly been looking for? Passwords, keycards, account #'s, what? Or was that done to add drama to the scenario? One thing it may explain is one person doing the nasty deed of murder and another doing the search.

I'm thinking that maybe they were looking for hidden bills tucked in the wallet, as some people do.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I went about and strewed my DH's wallet contents (no damage was done to DH, of course), and I strewed his documents and ID info and gym bag contents, as it were. It seems like somebody may have been looking for something, since Davids life didn't matter to the person doing the strewing, what could they have possibly been looking for? Passwords, keycards, account #'s, what? Or was that done to add drama to the scenario? One thing it may explain is one person doing the nasty deed of murder and another doing the search.

They were looking for anything that had their number on it. A number written on the back of his biz card, etc.

 

[FindHG]

They were looking for anything that had their number on it. A number written on the back of his biz card, etc.

I'm thinking that maybe they were looking for hidden bills tucked in the wallet, as some people do.

Make sense.

 

[Danaya]

I think it's a case of a Backpage or Craigslist hook up or escort encounter. The perp went there to rob the victim and perhaps, it escalated and the perp ended up killing him. Just because someone is stabbed multiple times, doesn't mean it's personal. I've read lots of stranger murders where a victim is stabbed multiple times; in one particular case, a woman was stabbed 53 times! If the perp is on drugs, like crack or meth, they can be erratic and violent.

If the victim's wallet or money is missing then this is another indication. I hope police are looking into any John robberies in the area.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I think it's a case of a Backpage or Craigslist hook up or escort encounter. The perp went there to rob the victim and perhaps, it escalated and the perp ended up killing him. Just because someone is stabbed multiple times, doesn't mean it's personal. I've read lots of stranger murders where a victim is stabbed multiple times; in one particular case, a woman was stabbed 53 times! If the perp is on drugs, like crack or meth, they can be erratic and violent.

If the victim's wallet or money is missing then this is another indication. I hope police are looking into any John robberies in the area.

This was a very risky move on the part of the Perp. High visibility hotel, and premeditated. (The snowsuit and knife). The stakes were high; there is much more to this story than sex tryst gone bad. IMO, this was *very* personal.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I, actually, did go through many CL ads and there were quite a few in the vicinity of the Donovan. I didn't come across any at that hotel, but, after two pages...I called it quits. :blushing:

I, too, think it was a sexual encounter. Gone very very wrong.

 

[FindHG]

I, actually, did go through many CL ads and there were quite a few in the vicinity of the Donovan. I didn't come across any at that hotel, but, after two pages...I called it quits. :blushing:

I, too, think it was a sexual encounter. Gone very very wrong.

Both scenarios could be true. It looks like a tryst gone bad, and if the elevators weren't broken and the face wasn't apparent, I doubt LE would have shared any video at all, but there is a lot of information about the crime scene, timing and all released, so it may be more than it seems or just that. Why would there be so much information available in this case about the crime scene?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I, actually, did go through many CL ads and there were quite a few in the vicinity of the Donovan. I didn't come across any at that hotel, but, after two pages...I called it quits. :blushing:

I, too, think it was a sexual encounter. Gone very very wrong.

Yes, I abandoned the task as well. :shocked2:

 

[Danaya]

This was a very risky move on the part of the Perp. High visibility hotel, and premeditated. (The snowsuit and knife). The stakes were high; there is much more to this story than sex tryst gone bad. IMO, this was *very* personal.

Why is it personal? I can think of five cases right now where it was a stranger and there was significant "over kill". The perp probably did premeditate this but just because they brought a knife, doesn't mean they intended to kill; it could have been used for intimidation. It isn't risky for a seasoned criminal.

 

[TuttiFrutti]

Sounds like he had big plans. They found a condoms and lubricant and an enema.

Police are being careful with what they release and I'm sure a ahead in the investigation. There were several credit cards scattered over the room, so either someone wanted to make it look like a robbery but was a set up or a frustrated robber who counted on finding cash not cards. The person even left computer.

Fresh of the press. http://abovethelaw.com/2015/02/police-reveal-more-details-in-messerschmitt-killing/

 

[Danaya]

A quick Google search shows lots of backpage related robberies. Look at this:

A Spokane man thought he was meeting a woman he met on Backpage.com but got jumped and robbed instead.

The victim says he arranged to meet a woman named "melanie", who he says turned out to be 25-year-old Tenisha Harrell.

When he showed up, two men, one armed with a pistol, the other a knife, took his wallet and then demanded he get more cash with his debit card.

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/backpage-meeting-ends-with-man-getting-robbed/21079500

 

[rosesfromangels]

Why is it personal? I can think of five cases right now where it was a stranger and there was significant "over kill". The perp probably did premeditate this but just because they brought a knife, doesn't mean they intended to kill; it could have been used for intimidation. It isn't risky for a seasoned criminal.

I'm basing my hypothesis on various studies about criminal profiling, specifically when the victim has literally been stabbed in the back. You can Goog it, and read various theories, all which seem to point to that specific manner of stabbing to be personal. Who knows, one theory.

 

[Danaya]

I have also read criminal profiling books--one is "Dark Dreams"--and I know that this is a popular hypothesis but it often proves untrue. I think the stabbed in the back technique was used to take the victim by surprise; I don't think it means anything on a symbolic level.

But yeah, JMO.

 

[Danaya]

Another idea--maybe he was running towards the door.

 

[SurfieTX]

Another idea--maybe he was running towards the door.

I wondered why they took the placard, assuming it was the one described in the search warrant to the left or right of the door (with the silver-colored doorknob) to room "400" on it. I'm also guessing that room "400" will be impossible to "rent" to the locals given the murder and bloody description of the crime scene.

 

[Danaya]

I checked out a DC escort review board. People in the industry are talking about this murder. One "working girl" wrote:

There is a way around the keycard system at this hotel. I had stayed there once via PL and will not return.

https://www.theeroticreview.com/dis....asp?MessageID=278370&boardID=6&page=2#278370