DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024

[Inthedetails]

Oh dear, is Mr. Trump going to pout because he was not addressed as Mr. President. GMAFB

Charged with crimes against our nation and he is supposedly concerned about being called by his own name. Seems to show what's important to him.

But his fans will likely now go out of their way to refer to him as President Trump. See how that works? It's manipulation, imo.

jmo

edited to add: it's also a way to get us talking about trivial matters like this instead of the criminal charges against him. jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1687294319151996929

Trump has goats at his Bedminster property because it lowers his tax bill. The goats allow part of the property to be classified as a farm, which has lower property tax rate.

"Filings reviewed by Insider show that in 2020 Trump paid $400,000 in property taxes for the golf club, which Bedminister calculates is worth $29 million. That same year the farm, which is about half the size of the golf course, cost Trump $700 in property taxes, based on an assessed value of $51,000."

How Trump used goats to cut millions of dollars off his local property taxes, and paid just $700 last year

The tax-slashing maneuver is one Trump's predecessor, disgraced industrialist John DeLorean, also exploited when he owned what's now the ex-president's golf club in New Jersey.

www.businessinsider.in

 

[ilovewings]

The GOP's defense of Trump has been years in the making

Understanding the history of the last decade is crucial to assessing the credibility of the Trump indictments and the Republican counterarguments against the indictments.

www.yahoo.com

This is a really good article but I like the comments the best because it shows that many many Americans are not buying the load of crap the Republicans and Trump are selling.

 

[Inthedetails]

The GOP's defense of Trump has been years in the making

Understanding the history of the last decade is crucial to assessing the credibility of the Trump indictments and the Republican counterarguments against the indictments.

www.yahoo.com

This is a really good article but I like the comments the best because it shows that many many Americans are not buying the load of crap the Republicans and Trump are selling.

That is a good article - thanks.

jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

AUG 4, 2023

House Democrats call for live broadcasts of court proceedings in Trump criminal cases

The letter was sent the same day that Trump was arraigned at the federal courthouse in Washington during a court proceeding that was not televised or livestreamed.

www.nbcnews.com

More than three dozen House Democrats are calling on the policymaking body for federal courts to permit live broadcasting of court proceedings in the Justice Department's cases charging former President Donald Trump with federal crimes.

[...]

"It is imperative the Conference ensures timely access to accurate and reliable information surrounding these cases and all of their proceedings, given the extraordinary national importance to our democratic institutions and the need for transparency," the lawmakers wrote in the letter, sent Thursday to Judge Roslynn R. Mauskopf, the secretary of the Judicial Conference.

[...]

"Given the historic nature of the charges brought forth in these cases, it is hard to imagine a more powerful circumstance for televised proceedings," the letter said. "If the public is to fully accept the outcome, it will be vitally important for it to witness, as directly as possible, how the trials are conducted, the strength of the evidence adduced and the credibility of witnesses."

[...]

 

[Inthedetails]

AUG 4, 2023

House Democrats call for live broadcasts of court proceedings in Trump criminal cases

The letter was sent the same day that Trump was arraigned at the federal courthouse in Washington during a court proceeding that was not televised or livestreamed.

www.nbcnews.com

More than three dozen House Democrats are calling on the policymaking body for federal courts to permit live broadcasting of court proceedings in the Justice Department's cases charging former President Donald Trump with federal crimes.

[...]

"It is imperative the Conference ensures timely access to accurate and reliable information surrounding these cases and all of their proceedings, given the extraordinary national importance to our democratic institutions and the need for transparency," the lawmakers wrote in the letter, sent Thursday to Judge Roslynn R. Mauskopf, the secretary of the Judicial Conference.

[...]

"Given the historic nature of the charges brought forth in these cases, it is hard to imagine a more powerful circumstance for televised proceedings," the letter said. "If the public is to fully accept the outcome, it will be vitally important for it to witness, as directly as possible, how the trials are conducted, the strength of the evidence adduced and the credibility of witnesses."

[...]

If it's broadcast, I cringe at how some will treat it like a WWF (World Wrestling Federation) match.

jmo

 

[sds71]

A former prosecutor knocked a Donald Trump defense attorney for what he deemed “not a smart move” and an “admission” on live TV related to the former’s president’s Jan. 6 charges.

Trump attorney John Lauro went on both Fox News and Newsmax to claim the then-president called on then-Vice President Mike Pence to bring Electoral College voting to a “halt” and let state legislatures “take one last look” before the count was certified.

“He desperately wanted to get to what happened during the 2020 cycle ... He asked Mr. Pence to pause the voting for 10 days, allow the state legislatures to weigh in, and then they could make a determination to audit or reaudit or recertify,” Lauro said on Newsmax Thursday.

“But what he didn’t do is, you know, send in the tanks, tell Mr. Pence don’t go to Capitol Hill or do anything to obstruct the due process of government.”

Lauro made similar comments on Fox News, which former Justice Department prosecutor Andrew Weissmann characterized on MSNBC as an admission and not a defense.

“A defense lawyer who makes a statement on behalf of their client — that is an admission,” Weissmann, an MSNBC contributor, told host Lawrence O’Donnell.

“Not that Donald Trump is going to testify, but if he were and he didn’t say exactly this thing, he can be cross-examined on this,” Weissmann continued. “So this was just a kind of rookie mistake to make ... This was not a smart move.”

'Not A Smart Move': Ex-Prosecutor Spots Trump Attorney's 'Admission' In Jan. 6 Case

"This was just a kind of rookie mistake to make," former organized crime prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said of a Trump lawyer's comments on live TV.

www.huffpost.com

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump calls for Supreme Court to 'intercede' against Biden after third indictment

Former President Donald Trump called for the U.S. Supreme Court to "intercede" in the 2024 presidential race.

www.cnbc.com

"My political opponent has hit me with a barrage of weak lawsuits, including D.A., A.G., and others, which require massive amounts of my time & money to adjudicate," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Friday morning.

"Resources that would have gone into Ads and Rallies, will now have to be spent fighting these Radical Left Thugs in numerous courts throughout the Country," Trump wrote. "I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field."

"It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede," he wrote.

While the Supreme Court has in the past been tasked with making major decisions about presidential elections — perhaps most notably by ruling on a disputed recount in Florida in 2000 — it's far from clear what Trump expects the high court to do about his 78 criminal charges. In most cases, the Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction, meaning it considers cases that have been appealed from lower courts.

 

[Inthedetails]

Trump calls for Supreme Court to 'intercede' against Biden after third indictment

Former President Donald Trump called for the U.S. Supreme Court to "intercede" in the 2024 presidential race.

www.cnbc.com

"My political opponent has hit me with a barrage of weak lawsuits, including D.A., A.G., and others, which require massive amounts of my time & money to adjudicate," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Friday morning.

"Resources that would have gone into Ads and Rallies, will now have to be spent fighting these Radical Left Thugs in numerous courts throughout the Country," Trump wrote. "I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field."

"It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede," he wrote.

While the Supreme Court has in the past been tasked with making major decisions about presidential elections — perhaps most notably by ruling on a disputed recount in Florida in 2000 — it's far from clear what Trump expects the high court to do about his 78 criminal charges. In most cases, the Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction, meaning it considers cases that have been appealed from lower courts.

I notice his use of "lawsuits," which technically is true, I suppose, but softens the fact he is charged with crimes. Felonies at that. Several. The likes we've never seen.

jmo

 

[TootsieFootsie]

“Not that Donald Trump is going to testify, but if he were and he didn’t say exactly this thing, he can be cross-examined on this,” Weissmann continued. “So this was just a kind of rookie mistake to make ... This was not a smart move.”

That might be enough to get the lawyer fired.

 

[passionflower]

Business Insider has taken an informed guess about the identities of the co-conspirators.

Co-conspirator 1: Rudy Giuliani (lawyer)
Co-conspirator 2: John Eastman (lawyer) - confirmed by Eastman's lawyer, as per JerseyGirl's post above
Co-conspirator 3: Sidney Powell (lawyer)
Co-conspirator 4: Jeffrey Clark (Justice Dept)
Co-conspirator 5: Kenneth Chesebro (lawyer)
Co-conspirator 6: Unclear (political consultant)

Here are the likely identities of Trump's co-conspirators in the January 6 indictment

The latest indictment of former President Donald Trump named refers to six co-conspirators, but doesn't name them. Here's who they likely are.

www.businessinsider.com

If this was ordinary people the trial would be over and all would be in prison. How long will this take? Our tax dollars will go towards protection and everything else. So wrong this is treason! MOO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Trump calls for Supreme Court to 'intercede' against Biden after third indictment

Former President Donald Trump called for the U.S. Supreme Court to "intercede" in the 2024 presidential race.

www.cnbc.com

"My political opponent has hit me with a barrage of weak lawsuits, including D.A., A.G., and others, which require massive amounts of my time & money to adjudicate," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Friday morning.

"Resources that would have gone into Ads and Rallies, will now have to be spent fighting these Radical Left Thugs in numerous courts throughout the Country," Trump wrote. "I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field."

"It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede," he wrote.

While the Supreme Court has in the past been tasked with making major decisions about presidential elections — perhaps most notably by ruling on a disputed recount in Florida in 2000 — it's far from clear what Trump expects the high court to do about his 78 criminal charges. In most cases, the Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction, meaning it considers cases that have been appealed from lower courts.

He uses the term "t hugs" because of the negative racial connotation it has with his base. Pretty disgusting. JMO

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

A couple of questions...



I watched BBC last night - and they mentioned that the hearing on 8/28 will start at 10am. Is that correct?



So - Judge Tanya Chutkan WILL be the Judge on this case?

TIA!

That's correct, it will be Judge Tanya S. Chutkan and the 8/28 hearing is at 10:00AM.

Can get the info here.

Media - U.S. District Court, Washington, DC

 

[JerseyGirl]

Legal expert: Trump lawyer just confirmed “an element of the crime” outside of courthouse

Alina Habba declared "everybody was made aware" that Trump lost the election — a key component of the case

finance.yahoo.com

A lawyer for former President Donald Trump, Alina Habba, told reporters Thursday that "everybody was made aware" he lost the 2020 election — a key part of the case against him, which may hinge on prosecutors' ability to show that Trump sought to overturn the election even though he knew he had lost. Trump's legal and political advisers repeatedly told him he had lost the election but he continued to push forward anyway.

"But that doesn't mean that was the only advice he was given," Habba told reporters outside the D.C. courthouse where Trump was arraigned. "As anybody understands what happens in the Oval Office, there are a numerous amount of advisers and politicians and lawyers – not just one or two – that are giving you advice and telling you what they believe is true. So, he may not agree with Mike Pence. He may not agree with one of his lawyers. But that doesn't mean that there weren't other people advising him exactly the opposite. And the president has a right as every one of us do, to listen to several opinions and make their decision."

Former senior FBI agent Peter Strzok pointed out that Habba had effectively echoed the very "allegation" against Trump.

"Thank you for confirming an element of the crime," quipped national security attorney Bradley Moss.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Between Habba and Lauro, it looks like the defense strategy is just to admit he did it and hope that he or a Republican who will pardon him is elected the next president.

 

[ilovewings]

Legal expert: Trump lawyer just confirmed “an element of the crime” outside of courthouse

Alina Habba declared "everybody was made aware" that Trump lost the election — a key component of the case

finance.yahoo.com

A lawyer for former President Donald Trump, Alina Habba, told reporters Thursday that "everybody was made aware" he lost the 2020 election — a key part of the case against him, which may hinge on prosecutors' ability to show that Trump sought to overturn the election even though he knew he had lost. Trump's legal and political advisers repeatedly told him he had lost the election but he continued to push forward anyway.

"But that doesn't mean that was the only advice he was given," Habba told reporters outside the D.C. courthouse where Trump was arraigned. "As anybody understands what happens in the Oval Office, there are a numerous amount of advisers and politicians and lawyers – not just one or two – that are giving you advice and telling you what they believe is true. So, he may not agree with Mike Pence. He may not agree with one of his lawyers. But that doesn't mean that there weren't other people advising him exactly the opposite. And the president has a right as every one of us do, to listen to several opinions and make their decision."

Former senior FBI agent Peter Strzok pointed out that Habba had effectively echoed the very "allegation" against Trump.

"Thank you for confirming an element of the crime," quipped national security attorney Bradley Moss.

It isn't just what he was told-60 judt94f

Legal expert: Trump lawyer just confirmed “an element of the crime” outside of courthouse

Alina Habba declared "everybody was made aware" that Trump lost the election — a key component of the case

finance.yahoo.com

A lawyer for former President Donald Trump, Alina Habba, told reporters Thursday that "everybody was made aware" he lost the 2020 election — a key part of the case against him, which may hinge on prosecutors' ability to show that Trump sought to overturn the election even though he knew he had lost. Trump's legal and political advisers repeatedly told him he had lost the election but he continued to push forward anyway.

"But that doesn't mean that was the only advice he was given," Habba told reporters outside the D.C. courthouse where Trump was arraigned. "As anybody understands what happens in the Oval Office, there are a numerous amount of advisers and politicians and lawyers – not just one or two – that are giving you advice and telling you what they believe is true. So, he may not agree with Mike Pence. He may not agree with one of his lawyers. But that doesn't mean that there weren't other people advising him exactly the opposite. And the president has a right as every one of us do, to listen to several opinions and make their decision."

Former senior FBI agent Peter Strzok pointed out that Habba had effectively echoed the very "allegation" against Trump.

"Thank you for confirming an element of the crime," quipped national security attorney Bradley Moss.

This case is not based just on what Trump was told: he knew that 60 judges, some appointed by him, ruled that there was no evidence to support voter fraud-- that is pretty strong when 60 judges ruled against him!!! Oh, and thank you Attorney Habba for assisting the government with their case!!!! awesome

 

[crussell821]

He uses the term "t hugs" because of the negative racial connotation it has with his base. Pretty disgusting. JMO

Absolutely. It’s a dogwhistle. MOO

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Absolutely. It’s a dogwhistle. MOO

I don’t know about that. President Obama has publicly used the word and when questioned about it he said he stood by the term.

 

[Inthedetails]

I don’t know about that. President Obama has publicly used the word and when questioned about it he said he stood by the term.

It's an ugly word no matter who uses it, but "whataboutism" avoids acknowledging it's an inciteful word for Trump to use about government officials in the court system at anytime, but especially in this political environment.

jmo

 

[MyBelle]

I don’t know about that. President Obama has publicly used the word and when questioned about it he said he stood by the term.

Obama used the word to describe violent rioters. Trump used it to describe prosecutors who are doing their job and also threated them. If he keeps yapping, he could find himself being held in contempt.

JMO

'Deadly risks': Trump's latest Truth Social threat raises red flags for legal experts

Donald Trump on Friday said he was "coming after" those who have gone after him, prompting legal experts to suggest he might be breaking the rules set forth in the Washington, D.C., criminal case in which he's charged with attempting to overturn the 2020 election.Trump's threat was simple: "IF...

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Trump's threat was simple: "IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!"