DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024

[Stunned]

"I once read a major magazine article on Mike. It said he was not a very good person. I was surprised, but the article was right."

Doesn't this just make a (WS) member want to say "Can I have the link for that please, Mr Trump?"

He can read? Or did someone read it to him? IMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Trump has not had to take orders from anybody since the days when his father Fred was a real-estate developer in Brooklyn, N.Y., and Donald’s boss.

It must be KILLING him that he has to take orders from a lady judge.

Well, he has to, but he isn’t obeying, and I hope justice for America is served very quickly.

IMO Trump isn’t fit to shine Pence’s shoes. I respect Pence because when it was critical for our country, he stood up against Trump at great personal cost, to his life and to his political career.

Of course Trump has to be a savage to him now.

In my opinion.

BBM

A Black lady judge, even.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

He can read? Or did someone read it to him? IMO

I'll take he never read it all for $200, Alex.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Trump has responded to the judge's Monday 5pm deadline by asking for a 3-day delay. He wants until Thursday.

He's not going to let a woman hold the upper hand...

I posted this before I'd read that the judge won't budge.

I'm poet and i didn't know it

 

[ilovewings]

He's not going to let a woman hold the upper hand...

He is not going to win a war with
This judge!!!!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Next thing, an UPPER case attack on the judge and family. Maybe include where she lives

 

[ilovewings]

I*

Next thing, an UPPER case attack on the judge and family. Maybe include where she lives

His attorneys need to tell him the judge has all
The power and he has none

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I*

His attorneys need to tell him the judge has all
The power and he has none

He's never followed his attorneys' advice and he's not about to start now.

 

[Arkay]

I*

His attorneys need to tell him the judge has all
The power and he has none

He's never followed his attorneys' advice and he's not about to start now.

I‘m sure he views his lawyers as his servants, like everyone else he’s ever hired, whether it was at the Trump Organization or at the White House.

His TV show catchphrase was “you’re fired,” after all. In real life we’ve seen the carousel of employees who were hired, then fired when they disagreed with him. A revolving door of high-level personnel, like Chiefs of Staff, who came to see that Trump was unmanageable, and Trump fired them and afterward belittled them. Occasionally some quit before being fired and naturally they were belittled, as well.

I fear that he will fire these lawyers if they tell him what he really needs to hear. To me his lawyers seem rather inept, but if he fires them and has to hire new lawyers, that will delay the trial(s) further.

That is what we must avoid, because if he can procrastinate long enough, win the Republican primary and win the general election, ALL these cases vanish into the ether.

He won’t even need to pardon himself if a guilty verdict does not arrive by the time he wins the presidency again, if he does. He will be in charge of the DOJ, staffed by whomever he chooses, and all the federal charges will be dismissed.

The states, like Georgia, may declare that they will still proceed with their own cases against him and I hope they do, but it is going to be nuclear war if a sitting president is facing jail time.

I mean, Nixon was a crook, but at least he resigned and got out of the way. Donald would NEVER.


All JMO

 

[ilovewings]

I‘m sure he views his lawyers as his servants, like everyone else he’s ever hired, whether it was at the Trump Organization or at the White House.

His TV show catchphrase was “you’re fired,” after all. In real life we’ve seen the carousel of employees who were hired, then fired when they disagreed with him. A revolving door of high-level personnel, like Chiefs of Staff, who came to see that Trump was unmanageable, and Trump fired them and afterward belittled them. Occasionally some quit before being fired and naturally they were belittled, as well.

I fear that he will fire these lawyers if they tell him what he really needs to hear. To me his lawyers seem rather inept, but if he fires them and has to hire new lawyers, that will delay the trial(s) further.

That is what we must avoid, because if he can procrastinate long enough, win the Republican primary and win the general election, ALL these cases vanish into the ether.

He won’t even need to pardon himself if a guilty verdict does not arrive by the time he wins the presidency again, if he does. He will be in charge of the DOJ, staffed by whomever he chooses, and all the federal charges will be dismissed.

The states, like Georgia, may declare that they will still proceed with their own cases against him and I hope they do, but it is going to be nuclear war if a sitting president is facing jail time.

I mean, Nixon was a crook, but at least he resigned and got out of the way. Donald would NEVER.


All JMO

Nixon had shame- something Trump could never feel--Nixon would
Never. Have attempted to overthrow an election--he was a boy scout
Compared to Trump.

 

[Inthedetails]

I*

His attorneys need to tell him the judge has all
The power and he has none

This shows where he stands in the courtroom, imo, bbm

"She wrote, quote, 'presidents are not kings, and a plaintiff is not president,' end of quote. That's from when she ruled against former President Trump in 2021, and that ruling allowed the House January 6 Select Committee to access his White House internal files."
~quote Neal Katyal, former Acting Solicitor General of the U.S.

(It should have been no surprise to the defendant and his counsel that she would address him as Mr. Trump in the courtroom, so that whole "controversy" is indeed manipulation for show. imo)

If the defendant doesn't know the judge is in charge and he is under her supervision right now (like every other defendant), well, that's on him.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/03/1192016508/what-to-know-about-tanya-chutkan-the-judge-overseeing-trumps-jan-6-case

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

BBM

A Black lady judge, even.

From Jamaica!

Everything I've read about her indicates she and her work are highly respected.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

"Former president Trump’s campaign quietly commissioned a second firm to study election fraud claims in the weeks after the 2020 election, and the founder of the firm was recently questioned by the Justice Department about his work disproving the claims."

The founder of the company hired said:

"'No substantive voter fraud was uncovered in my investigations looking for it, nor was I able to confirm any of the outside claims of voter fraud that I was asked to look at,' he said. 'Every fraud claim I was asked to investigate was false.'”

And "he contemporaneously sent his findings disputing fraud claims in writing to the Trump campaign in late 2020."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/27/trump-false-election-fraud-claims/

Yet one more piece of evidence showing Trump knew and he knew before Jan 6. imo

jmo

 

[Ursamajr]

Huh? Only his civil rights have been violated?

Didn't he just announce "I am being indicted for you."

I guess he was talking to himself when he announced that.

jmo

I can't wait until he's convicted for me, then maybe he'll go to jail for me. So nice of him.

 

[Inthedetails]

He can read? Or did someone read it to him? IMO

Yep, he posted yesterday that he read a magazine article. It might come in handy in court that he himself documented he can read. imo

The funny thing is, I'm not joking. When factual information about the election was put in front of him, he was capable of reading it.

jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

'Too honest': Why former VP and 2024 candidate Mike Pence had a big week after Trump indictment

After Trump's third indictment, former VP Mike Pence came out with some of his harshest criticism yet for his former boss and 2024 competitor

www.usatoday.com

“What the president maintained that day, and frankly, has said over and over again over the last two and a half years, is completely false,” Pence said. “And it’s contrary to what our Constitution and the laws of this country provide.”

The Pence campaign found a way to profit, literally, from all the fresh attention. Hats and T-shirts with the label “Too Honest” appeared on his campaign site Thursday, a reference to an instance described in the indictment.

In a January 2021 phone call between the pair, Trump “berated” Pence for saying there was no constitutional basis for the vice president to reject electoral votes during the certification of results, according to the indictment.

"You’re too honest,” Trump told Pence, according to the indictment.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Re too honest.

I bet Mr Trump is hating that someone is benefiting from something he said.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes credit if the campaign is a success

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The Pence campaign found a way to profit, literally, from all the fresh attention. Hats and T-shirts with the label “Too Honest” appeared on his campaign site Thursday, a reference to an instance described in the indictment.

Sort of a bit like that Four Season's thing. Was a windfall for them

 

[JerseyGirl]

Sort of a bit like that Four Season's thing. Was a windfall for them

Hillary too:

Hillary Clinton Trolls Donald Trump, Promotes ‘But Her Emails’ Merch in Response to Indictment | National Review

‘Bringing this back in light of recent news,’ the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee tweeted with a link to buy a ‘But Her Emails’ hat.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Re too honest.

I bet Mr Trump is hating that someone is benefiting from something he said.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes credit if the campaign is a success

It's all manipulation. Trump complains he didn't really say Pence is "too honest." By the way the defendant fusses about it, the attention goes to one little (liddle') phrase while he and his followers ignore the big picture.

The defendant is gaslighting and manipulating the narrative.

And the screaming crowds now have slogans to show what team they are cheering for. Boo "Too Honest!" Yikes, that sounds scarier than I thought.

jmo