TootsieFootsie
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Wow Nancy really did strike a nerve ![Big Grin :D :D](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
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There is no reason to move the trial from Washington DC where much of the allegations occurred. This case will not be moved cause Trump wants everything his way--- tough toenails tootsie for him---- always trying to get his way- he will be, and should be treated like any other defendant- not like he is special--To be fair I do wish the trial were moved to a court that is not in DC. Reading those stats just assures more claims of unfairness with the results. If the goal is to get Trump it needs to be by a court that is unbiased and a jury of his peers - these are not his peers if there's only 5.40% that voted for him in DC. I am not saying move it to WV, is there a state that doesn't lean one way or the other? I want this to be a fair trial and the truth to come out and no political agenda. We all should want that.
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Donald Trump snaps back at Nancy Pelosi over "mean" comments
Former House Speaker Pelosi said that Trump resembled "a scared puppy" during his Thursday arraignment hearing.www.newsweek.com
On Sunday, Trump took to Truth Social to hit back against Pelosi's MSNBC comments.
"I purposely didn't comment on Nancy Pelosi's very weird story concerning her husband, but now I can because she said something about me, with glee, that was really quite vicious," the former president's post read. "'I saw a scared puppy,' she said, as she watched me on television, like millions of others, that didn't see that. I wasn't 'scared.' Nevertheless, how mean a thing to say! She is a Wicked Witch whose husbands journey from hell starts and finishes with her. She is a sick & demented psycho who will someday live in HELL!"
And calling someone a scared puppy could be a sign of sympathy.
His response is just plain nasty.
AUG 6, 2023
John Lauro, one of Donald Trump’s attorneys in the federal case over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, vehemently defended the former president against allegations Trump knowingly spread false claims of election fraud to remain in power and claimed Trump's efforts were merely "aspirational," not criminal.![]()
Donald Trump's lawyer claims efforts to overturn 2020 election were only 'aspirational,' not criminal
John Lauro, an attorney representing Donald Trump in his 2020 election case, said Trump's pressure campaign on Pence was merely "aspirational."www.usatoday.com
“The defense is quite simple,” Lauro said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “President Trump believed in his heart of hearts that he had won that election.”
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Referring to Trump’s now-infamous phone call in 2021 with Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger where Trump appeared to threaten him with a criminal charge and asked him to “just find 11,780 votes,” Lauro argued it was just an "ask" from Trump.
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“The defendant had a right, like every American to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won,” read the indictment.
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Donald Trump snaps back at Nancy Pelosi over "mean" comments
Former House Speaker Pelosi said that Trump resembled "a scared puppy" during his Thursday arraignment hearing.www.newsweek.com
On Sunday, Trump took to Truth Social to hit back against Pelosi's MSNBC comments.
"I purposely didn't comment on Nancy Pelosi's very weird story concerning her husband, but now I can because she said something about me, with glee, that was really quite vicious," the former president's post read. "'I saw a scared puppy,' she said, as she watched me on television, like millions of others, that didn't see that. I wasn't 'scared.' Nevertheless, how mean a thing to say! She is a Wicked Witch whose husbands journey from hell starts and finishes with her. She is a sick & demented psycho who will someday live in HELL!"
DT should demonstrate his "belief" that he won the 2020 election by asking for a change of venue to GA or AZ.
Wow Nancy really did strike a nerve![]()
And he took the bait, like he always does.Wow Nancy really did strike a nerve![]()
Yeah Nah. It's about time someone stood up to him.Actually, I wish she would stay quiet. She's just stoking the fire and it's unnecessary.
Yeah Nah. It's about time someone stood up to him.
I sometimes wonder who would want to undermine our confidence in our own systems and who would be comfortable with a long-term approach to bit-by-bit erosion? Hmm..The whole idea that some states are more or less likely to convict is quite a dangerous concept that has really taken root among Americans. The law should be the same law all across the country, but the many American people have learned to distrust the judicial system, largely as a result of the tirades of T and the Republic party.
The danger is that the people may decide that the justice system is not reliable, and therefore elected officials should have the final say over how the law is applied. I can see this as an easy move on the part of the government and the people.
When the president interfered in the decisions of the CDC during the Covid pandemic, people were surprised, but there was nothing done to stop the interference. Suddenly political leaders with no expertise in public health, were undermining the authority of the most highly respected organization that was in the best position to manage the pandemic.
I can foresee that the same thing can happen with the justice system. The Republican party has already stated that they intend to limit the independence of some federal systems, and I believe that the justice system will be the first to fall. I believe that if T gets into power he will attempt to set himself up as the ultimate judicial authority. If he doesn't get into power, then it's only a matter of time when "judicial reform" will take place and the deed will be done with the blessing of the American people.
And that will be the end of democracy in the US.
jmo
I'm not real fond of tit for tat and wish she would just be quiet- let him rant away- that is what he does- His rants are boring and irrational---I hear ya, but at this point, it's tit for tat. Let justice take it's course and stand up to him.
Nancy responding shows him he's still important to her, somehow. She has better ways to spend her time.
I don't wonder at all! One side has stacked the courts, school boards and are now vowing to weaken federal law enforcement. They are also notorious for judge shopping. If judge shopping is allowed for some, it should be allowed for all. It's quite frightening to see such a blatant determination to ensure certain people will be able to act with impunity.I sometimes wonder who would want to undermine our confidence in our own systems and who would be comfortable with a long-term approach to bit-by-bit erosion? Hmm..
Well, whatever the answer(s) to that may be, sticking to the established judicial system under the Constitution is what should be done, without jury and judge shopping. (I half-way suspect he is looking ahead for appeal, kicking the case up in the court system where he thinks he might have better luck. Could his current antics be pressure on the judge to do something that could be appealed?)
jmo
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Donald Trump snaps back at Nancy Pelosi over "mean" comments
Former House Speaker Pelosi said that Trump resembled "a scared puppy" during his Thursday arraignment hearing.www.newsweek.com
On Sunday, Trump took to Truth Social to hit back against Pelosi's MSNBC comments.
"I purposely didn't comment on Nancy Pelosi's very weird story concerning her husband, but now I can because she said something about me, with glee, that was really quite vicious," the former president's post read. "'I saw a scared puppy,' she said, as she watched me on television, like millions of others, that didn't see that. I wasn't 'scared.' Nevertheless, how mean a thing to say! She is a Wicked Witch whose husbands journey from hell starts and finishes with her. She is a sick & demented psycho who will someday live in HELL!"
I'm always a bit puzzled at the "truly believed in one's heart of hearts" defence, esp in a court of law.
Is it just me or does this lack his usual panache
And calling someone a scared puppy could be a sign of sympathy.
His response is just plain nasty.