GUILTY DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #24

[OTPTarheel2018]

DC Mansion Murders FB page (Fox5DC) also has info on the "Maple Ave Crew" allegedly known to DrrlW.

DarrW Goo was a member of the MAC as per his MySpace page and a YouTube video.

JMO

And I believe this was on an earlier thread.

 

[JayMac]

I think the jury is trying to do its job thoroughly and carefully. This is a serious case and I'd like to think they want to give it the consideration it deserves. There was a lot of evidence in this case. They are probably going through each count.

Sometimes there can be one or two jurors who may not be completely convinced by the majority. I have seen juries stay out longer than expected because the majority of jurors did not want a hung jury. They wanted to persist at getting a unanimous verdict and they sent out notes specifically to address the issues those still unconvinced jurors (either for or against conviction) are questioning. So it can be easy to misinterpret questions from the jury. And it can be easy to misinterpret the time the jury is taking. If convicted Wint essentially loses his life and no matter how people feel about him the integrity of the system deserves careful consideration.

 

[Seattle1]

Melanie Alnwick FOX 5 DC
Admin · October 15 at 11:15 AM
A couple of questions answered today in the #MansionMurders trial.

One, why didn’t Daron’s brother Darrell testify to the grand jury?
This revelation came out of earshot of the jury, when attorneys for the prosecution and the defense were arguing over language regarding how Darrell’s phone had been searched.

Assistant US Attorney Laura Bach said of Darrell: “he has been cooperative, he has been willing to provide testimony, he didn’t ask for immunity. WE decided not to have him testify to the grand jury. He hid nothing.”

The story about a housekeeper who may have seen a man watching the Savopoulos house was also clarified.

Turns out it was a woman who worked on Garfield Street NW. She testified that she saw a man who she was afraid of, two days before the murders.

Maria DaSilva spotted him around 5:15 pm on Garfield Street, near the intersection with Cleveland Ave and 32nd NW.

“He was pacing back and forth,” she told defense attorney Jeffrey Stein. “He was spitting on the ground, I had a great deal of fear.”

DaSilva said she saw him go around some bushes, then back into Cleveland Avenue and turn up 32nd - which is a short walk from the Savopoulos’ home at 32nd and Woodland.

She told the defense that she didn’t see the man’s face, and that he was wearing a baseball cap. He did not have long hair, or any hair that could’ve been tucked under cap, she thought - because she “saw him very well from behind.” She told the defense the man she saw was not Daron Wint - but that when her employer showed her the news reports of a suspect captured on surveillance video fleeing the scene of the burning Porsche, DaSilva thought that “could” have been the odd man she saw days earlier.

She admitted on cross-examination that the man could have been on drugs, based on his behavior, and that she never saw the face of either man.

Just updated my post here:
https://www.facebook.com/142176909276985/posts/1015920898569244/
Fox 5 DC

I've been looking for confirmation that DrrlW did not testify before GJ and this is what I found.

 

[Seattle1]

DarrW Goo was a member of the MAC as per his MySpace page and a YouTube video.
JMO
And I believe this was on an earlier thread.

Yes, and DrrlW earlier pled guilty to a crime related to the gang and snitch.

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

Yes, and DrrlW earlier pled guilty to a crime related to the gang and snitch.

Yes, after the charge was reduced from attempted murder.

JMO and just what I read
BBM

 

[SeesSeas]

I was unaware of this but its alleged on FB news site that closing arguments included and/or explained that AS last phone call was at 9:12AM and not later as alleged in court because electronic timestamp by forensic experts use UTC (Coordinated Universal Time), and not local time in their reports. MOO

Re: AS last phone call was at 9:12AM
^^ Do you have a link to the FB news site?? ^^

The trial testimony was very specific that Amy's phone call was at about 1:09 p.m.:
the sprinkler business owner testified he received a call from Amy Savopoulos at about 1:09 p.m. May 14. She was calling to cancel the appointment.

I would think that the business owner would recall the general Time of Day of that call - - early morning? after lunchtime?
I also imagine this man would have been interviewed within a few days of the murder, so his recollection would have been more precise. IMO

DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial
DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial

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  Recap: The last phone call?
  
  On Thursday, jurors heard from a business owner who runs a lawn-sprinkler company. His company performed maintenance on the Savopoulos family's lawn sprinklers about twice a year and it just so happened a technician was scheduled to come out to the house on May 14 to make a service call. The technician took the stand Thursday, testifying that he showed up to the Savopoulos house on Woodland Drive about 9 a.m. May 14. It was the first call of the day. He rang the doorbell and no one answered, so he left for the next appointment.
  
  At the same time the technician was ringing the doorbell, prosecutors have said the Savopoulos family and their housekeeper were being held hostage inside. (About 45 minutes later, the husband and stepdaughter of the Vera Figueroa, the housekeeper, also paid a visit to the house, looking for her).
  
  Curiously, the sprinkler business owner testified he received a call from Amy Savopoulos at about 1:09 p.m. May 14. She was calling to cancel the appointment. "She was very nervous," David Arbon, the sprinkler business owner, testified. "She said she had to leave the house. She said her son got injured ... she had to go to the hospital and she had to cancel the appointment."
  
  According to the timeline being laid out by prosecutors, that phone call would likely have been one of the last phone calls a member of the Savopoulos family made. Just 15 minutes after that phone call, the D.C. Fire Department was dispatched to the home for the report of a fire.
  
  Inside, firefighters would discover the bodies of Savvas Savopoulos; his wife, Amy; their 10-year-old son, Philip; and Figueroa, the housekeeper.
  
  by WTOP September 14 at 11:38 AM

 

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Melanie Alnwick FOX 5 DC
Admin · October 19 at 9:14 AM
As promised, here is a photo of Darrell Wint from one of his PG County offenses. I’m not sure what year. He’s 6’01”, weighed 200 lbs in 2015.

I guess having six kids with four different women can really age a man, because dude looks more like 55 than 35

 

[Seattle1]

Re: AS last phone call was at 9:12AM
^^ Do you have a link to the FB news site?? ^^

The trial testimony was very specific that Amy's phone call was at about 1:09 p.m.:
the sprinkler business owner testified he received a call from Amy Savopoulos at about 1:09 p.m. May 14. She was calling to cancel the appointment.

I would think that the business owner would recall the general Time of Day of that call - - early morning? after lunchtime?
I also imagine this man would have been interviewed within a few days of the murder, so his recollection would have been more precise. IMO

DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial
DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial

• 
  
  Recap: The last phone call?
  
  On Thursday, jurors heard from a business owner who runs a lawn-sprinkler company. His company performed maintenance on the Savopoulos family's lawn sprinklers about twice a year and it just so happened a technician was scheduled to come out to the house on May 14 to make a service call. The technician took the stand Thursday, testifying that he showed up to the Savopoulos house on Woodland Drive about 9 a.m. May 14. It was the first call of the day. He rang the doorbell and no one answered, so he left for the next appointment.
  
  At the same time the technician was ringing the doorbell, prosecutors have said the Savopoulos family and their housekeeper were being held hostage inside. (About 45 minutes later, the husband and stepdaughter of the Vera Figueroa, the housekeeper, also paid a visit to the house, looking for her).
  
  Curiously, the sprinkler business owner testified he received a call from Amy Savopoulos at about 1:09 p.m. May 14. She was calling to cancel the appointment. "She was very nervous," David Arbon, the sprinkler business owner, testified. "She said she had to leave the house. She said her son got injured ... she had to go to the hospital and she had to cancel the appointment."
  
  According to the timeline being laid out by prosecutors, that phone call would likely have been one of the last phone calls a member of the Savopoulos family made. Just 15 minutes after that phone call, the D.C. Fire Department was dispatched to the home for the report of a fire.
  
  Inside, firefighters would discover the bodies of Savvas Savopoulos; his wife, Amy; their 10-year-old son, Philip; and Figueroa, the housekeeper.
  
  by WTOP September 14 at 11:38 AM

Thanks for recap as I was also looking. The UTC post was a comment on FOX DC5 FB, and now I believe this confusion may have come from the sprinkler tech showing up at the house at 9:12AM, and not the afternoon telephone call with Sprinkler Mngt. (Don't understand the link with closing argument though unless it's something from the defense)??

 

[Seattle1]

DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial

October 19, 2018
WTOP Live Trial Blog

As jury prepares to take case: What we still don't know about horrific crime at Woodland Drive


As the attorneys in Daron Wint's murder trial prepare to give closing arguments before the jury, we're reflecting on the facts we still don’t know about the horrific crime at Woodland Drive.

We’ll start with when the crime happened. During their case, prosecutors laid out a general timeline of when the three members of the Savopoulous family and their housekeeper were taken captive and killed.

A neighbor testified she spotted Amy Savopoulos, 47, out for a walk near a Starbucks at about 3:30 p.m. on May 13. Back at the Savopoulos house on Woodland Drive her 10-year-old son, Philip Savopoulos, is home sick from school recovering from a concussion. Veralicia Figueroa, 57, one of the family's housekeepers, is also inside the house. It's when Amy Savopoulos was out for her walk that phone lines at the house are likely cut and Daron Wint walks in, according to prosecutors.

But there's something odd about the neighbor's testimony. She said Amy was wearing a dressy skirt with a light-colored sweater over her shoulders and looked nice. Why is that strange? Amy Savopoulos was captured on surveillance video at a doctor's office with her son earlier that morning wearing a different outfit. And it was that earlier outfit — a dark tank top and white pants — that Amy Savopoulos' (no body) was found wearing when authorities responded to the burning Savopoulos house the next day. Given the prosecutions timeline, she wouldn’t have time to change back into the tank top and white jeans if she was taken hostage when she arrived home.

We don’t know how the family and Figueroa were taken hostage — if it was one-by-one or otherwise — which would shed light on how many suspects it would take to wrangle four people. More broadly, we still don't know if the crime was the work of just a single attacker. From the beginning, DC police have said they believed the elaborate crime could not have been carried out by a single person. But Daron Wint remains the only person charged and the prosecution has dismissed the defense's contention that it was actually his two younger brothers who carried out the killings.

Among the pieces of evidence that complicate the prosecution timeline:

Two workers at the residence of the Australian ambassador — across the street from the Savopoulos house — testified they saw an African-American man with dreadlocks approach the house's garage and duck inside at around noon on May 14. This would have been some 18 hours after the family was first taken hostage. Why would Daron Wint be seen entering the house at that time?

While the victims were held captive, members of the family made a number of phone calls. One of those calls — The last phone call, according to prosecutors’ timeline — was made by Amy to a lawn sprinkler maintenance company to cancel a planned appointment that day. "She was very nervous," the sprinkler business owner testified. "She said she had to leave the house. She said her son got injured ... she had to go to the hospital and she had to cancel the appointment."

Amy’s call was made at 1:12 p.m. on May 14 — just 12 minutes before firefighters received the first report of smoke at the Savopoulos house and rushed to the scene. Were the victims — or at least Amy Savopoulos — alive that close to the time firefighters arrived at the scene? It appeared rigor mortis — which usually sets in at least two hours after death — had set in for some of the victims by the time firefighters arrived on the scene. But a medical examiner testified that extreme heat can speed up the process. Given the amount of evidence compromised by the fire, the medical examiner testified she couldn’t provide an exact time of death for any of the victims.

We know given their injuries that the adults were tortured but because so much evidence was destroyed in the fire — including the injuries to their bodies, that’s information the medical examiner says we'll never know. Philip’s body was so badly burned she said there is no way to tell if he died before or after the fire was set on the mattress where he was laying.

The biggest thing we still don't know? Why.

Daron Wint worked for Savvas Savopoulos' ironworks company for a few years a decade before the killings.

During opening arguments, prosecutors laid out what they believe is the motive in the case: "Money, greed and ransom." They pointed to the $40,000 that was extorted from Savvas Savopoulos and delivered to the family's house while the victims were held captive.
But the killings were so brutal, so horrific, it's hard to think someone would do that for $40,000.

The defense says Wint had no reason to have that anger and vendetta against a family that by all accounts — he didn't know
We'll soon learn whether the jury thinks Wint is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

by WTOP October 19 at 2:25 PM

 

[Seattle1]

• Oct. 22, 2018 — Day 20
  
  Defense blasts 'cherry-picked' evidence; says prosecutors trying to 'mislead' jurors
  
  
  The defense attorney for the man charged with killing three members of a D.C. family and their housekeeper accused federal prosecutors of “cherry-picking evidence” against Daron Wint and appealed to jurors to consider gaps in the government's case.
  
  In the defense's closing arguments Monday, Judith Pipe, with the District Public Defender Service sought to paint a sympathetic portrait of 37-year-old Wint, whom she described as “duped” by his two younger brothers and wrongfully accused by the government in the killings of Savvas and Amy Savopoulos; their 10-year-old son, Philip; and the family's housekeeper, Vera Figueroa, in May 2015.
  
  “Daron Wint is not the monster who brought about this nightmare,” public defender Judith Pipe said, describing the prosecution's case as consisting of “strategically selected pieces of the puzzle” designed to “mislead” jurors into thinking that Wint carried out the killing and acted alone.
  
  (The defense did not complete its closing arguments Monday; they are set to resume Tuesday)
  
  The defense has claimed Wint's two younger brothers — Darrell and Steffon Wint — are actually responsible for the killings and that authorities either failed to investigate them or is sitting on evidence that doesn't implicate Wint.
  
  “Every time that there was a piece of evidence that didn't make sense with their theory, they dismissed it,” Pipe said. “That's why there are so many gaps in this case.”
  
  Pipe said call records between Darrell and Steffon Wint in the days leading up to time the victims were taken captive inside the Savopoulos home show “coordination” between the two brothers and could be evidence the two were planning the crime. Handwritten time sheets provided by Steffon Wint showing he was working as a construction supervisor at the time of the killings could have been fudged and are “worthless” and “mean nothing” in terms of establishing an alibi.
  
  The prosecution, which called both younger brothers to testify against Wint, has dismissed the defense's theory. Neither of the two younger brothers has ever been charged in connection with the crime.
  
  Pipe also pointed to shifting details in Darrell Wint's accounting of his alibi for May 13 and May 14, 2015 — accusing him of faking a fuzzy memory. Even though cellphone location data show his phone was nowhere near the Savopoulos family's Northwest D.C. mansion during the time the victims were held and later killed, Pipe suggested he could have handed his phone off to a friend to cover for him.
  
  The defense attorney also sought to weaken some of the DNA evidence against Wint, suggesting, for example, that Daron Wint's DNA that was found on a knife found propping open a basement window at the Savopoulos house may have been the result of cross-contamination at the D.C. Department of Forensic Science's evidence-processing unit.
  
  Pipe started out her closing arguments with a civics lesson of sort, seeking to explain to the jury practical meaning of terms, such as “burden of proof” and “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
  
  “The government has done a lot of finger-pointing … at Daron Wint,” Pipe told jurors. “Burden of proof means you point your finger at the government and you say, 'Prove it.'”
  
  Jury deliberations are set to begin Tuesday.

• 

DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial

Oct. 22, 2018 — Day 20
WTOP LIVE Trial Blog

Emotional closing arguments: Wint turned family's house 'into a graveyard,' prosecutor says

In emotionally charged closing arguments, a federal prosecutor in the first-degree felony murder trial of the Maryland man charged with killing three members of a D.C. family and their housekeeper told jurors it was time to hold Daron Wint accountable for turning the family's Woodley Park mansion “into a graveyard.”

Daron Wint is the lone defendant on trial in the killing of Savvas and Amy Savopoulos; their 10-year-old son; and Vera Figueroa, the family's housekeeper in May 2015. The victims were beaten and stabbed after $40,000 was extorted from the businessman father. The family's house was later set ablaze.

Prosecutor: Wint took victims captive 1 by 1

In closing arguments that lasted several hours Monday morning and afternoon, Assistant U.S. Attorney Laura Bach said greed drove Wint to kill — and that all the evidence pointed to him as the sole assailant.

“Daron Wint wanted things that he couldn't have. And keep in mind that he had been backed into a corner at this point,” Bach said, relating that Wint, who had recently been kicked out of his brother's house, didn't have a place to stay and was facing the prospect of sleeping in his minivan. “He decided he was going to take from the Savopoulos family, she said.

As the trial in D.C. Superior Court enters its seventh week, Bach wove together reams of evidence and testimony — from call records, crime scene photos and witness testimony — aiming to show Wint, alone, carried out the hostage-taking and killing.

Wint's team of public defenders have argued since the start of the trial that it was actually Wint's two brothers, Darrell and Steffon Wint, who carried out the elaborate crime. The defense also sought to raise suspicions about Savvas Savopoulos' former assistant, Jordan Wallace, who dropped off the $40,000 ransom while the victims were being held inside the house.

“Make no mistake that they have tried to blame three completely innocent men,” Bach told jurors.

In her recounting of the crime, Bach laid out how Wint took the victims captive, essentially one by one, starting with Figueroa and 10-year-old Philip on the afternoon of May 13, 2015, while Amy Savopoulos was out on a Starbucks run. Savvas Savopoulos was called back to the house later that evening.

“It's tough when you've got four people all at once,” Bach said. 'It's not so tough when you take them one at time."

Prosecutors to jurors: Use common sense

Still, Bach acknowledged some gaps in prosecutors' timeline, telling jurors there were some elements of the crime — such as what door Wint used to get inside the house; in what order he killed the victims; and why his blue minivan was parked in downtown D.C. and later towed back to Maryland — that would likely remain unexplained.

For example, she said jurors could spend the next three years considering why Wint would have ordered the pizzas — dropped off on the front porch while the victims were held captive inside — and urged jurors to use common sense.
“Maybe this is done to reassure the family. Maybe he's just hungry. We don't know. You're not going to know.”

The important thing, she said, is that Wint's DNA is on the pizza crust.

“Common sense gets to come into the courtroom with you, folks,” she told jurors.

Accounting for brother's whereabouts

Bach spent much of her time in closing arguments seeking to discredit the defense's contention that Wint's two younger brothers — in particular Darrell Wint — had any part in the crimes.

During the time that the victims were taken captive and held overnight, location data for Darrell Wint's cellphone, based on cell tower “pings,” show it was nowhere near the Savopoulos house in Northwest D.C. “He's out in Montgomery County … He has nothing to do with this,” she said.

The week after the killings — after Daron Wint had been identified as a suspect in the killings and his photo was blasted across news broadcasts nationwide — Darrell Wint did help exchange part of the $40,000 into money orders ostensibly to obtain a lawyer for his brother.

Bach characterized Darrell Wint as having a “slightly shaded moral compass” and said “he should have known better,” but, in the end, she told jurors, Darrell Wint worked with police to turn in his brother.

Emotional end

The prosecution's closing argument ended with a grisly detailing of the injuries to the victim's bodies — accompanied by graphic autopsy photos — in an attempt to show jurors the killings were especially “atrocious, heinous cruel.”

Family members of the victims covered their eyes and stifled sobs as the photos were shown.

It's finally time for you all to hold the defendant accountable,” Bach said in closing, her voice rising in anger. “It's time for you all to hold Daron Wint — not anyone else — accountable for what he did.”

by WTOP October 22 at 11:12 AM

 

[Seattle1]

DC mansion killings: Daron Wint on trial

Oct. 23, 2018 — Day 21
WTOP LIVE Trial Blog

Jury deliberations begin after combative close to six-week trial

The first-degree murder trial of a Maryland man charged with killing three members of a D.C. family and their housekeeper inside the family's home is now in the hands of the jury after impassioned closing arguments from Daron Wint's public defender and a defiant rebuttal by a federal prosecutor.

Judith Pipe, with the District Public Defender Service, claimed the prosecution relied on potentially contaminated DNA evidence, failed to properly investigate Wint's two younger brothers and intentionally misled the jury with cherry-picked evidence and incomplete testimony.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Laura Bach called the defense's claims “flights of fancy,” saying all the evidence points to Wint as the lone assailant.

The jury is weighing 20 counts against Wint, who's accused of killing Savvas and Amy Savopoulos; their 10-year-old son, Philip; and the family's housekeeper Vera Figueroa. The victims were held in the Savopoulos' multimillion-dollar mansion for nearly 24 hours and $40,000 was extorted from Savvas Savopoulos, the CEO of an ironworks company. After the killings, the mansion was set ablaze.

Jurors are considering first-degree murder charges in the deaths of each of the victims as well as arson, burglary, extortion and theft charges.

'You can't trust the government's evidence'

In her closing arguments, Pipe called into question the government's timeline for when the victims were taken captive. She said prosecutors tried to mislead the jury by putting on the stand an unreliable witness who testified she saw Amy Savopoulos walking in the neighborhood – perhaps on the way back from a trip to Starbucks – that afternoon.
Pipe called the move “sinister” and said it was designed to convince jurors that Wint could have carried out the crime, alone, by taking the victims hostage one by one.

“You can't trust the government's evidence,” Pipe said, continuing to push her claim that it was actually Wint's two younger brothers, Darrell and Steffon Wint, who carried out the killings.

Contaminated DNA evidence?

Pipe also sought to raise questions about some of the DNA evidence linking Wint to the crime scene, saying the dozens of firefighters and law enforcement personnel responding to the burning mansion had likely contaminated evidence. In addition to DNA on the crust of a pizza that had been delivered to the Savopoulos home during the time the victims were held captive, forensics experts testified Wint's DNA was also found on the handle of a knife found propping open a window in the basement.

“The problem with the scene being contaminated is that people's DNA gets on items that they never touched,” Pipe said.

In fact, DNA from three different investigators wound up on items from the house.
Emily Head, a forensic biologist the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, revealed in her testimony during the trial that two bathroom towels she was swabbing for evidence tested positive for her DNA — the result she said of her lab coat brushing against the towel.

“There was more DNA from Emily Head on that towel than from Daron Wint on that knife,” Pipe said.

The defense attorney also noted that the knife was not collected into evidence until nearly a week after the killings — after Wint was identified as a suspect in the killings based on the pizza-crust DNA — and was transferred to the Department of Forensic Science central evidence unit the same day police took clothing and personal items from Wint's father's house.

“Did Daron Wint's property brush up ever so slightly against the knife like Emily Head's sleeve?” Pipe asked the jury.

Prosecutor blasts 'rank speculation'

In her rebuttal Bach, the federal prosecutor, said Wint's attorneys were asking jurors to engage in “rank speculation” and that their claims are an attempt to distract jurors from the evidence, all of which points to Wint acting alone.

“There is not a single reason here to doubt the government's evidence,” she said.
Bach told jurors the U.S. Attorney's Office initially has suspicions about Darrell Wint's involvement. A week after the killings, Darrell Wint helped turn his brother into police but only after helping convert most of the $40,000 ransom into money orders to pay for a lawyer.

Darrell Wint was questioned by police that night and later by Bach's office.
“Were not morons,” Bach said. “There is a guy with his brother when the brother is arrested for murder. Yeah, we're going to look” into him. “ You think we're gonna (say), 'la-la-la, we're not looking at this?'”

But Bach said prosecutors were able to corroborate Darrell Wint's alibi at every turn using cellphone location, financial records and the testimony of other witnesses who vouched for his whereabouts.

Bach said there was no reason to suspect Steffon Wint of taking part in the crime. Company time sheets show he was working as a construction supervisor at the time of the killings. She said Steffon was only accused by the defense as a ploy to account for a hair found in bloody bedding in an upstairs room of the Savopoulos house.

The DNA signature profile of the hair could not be matched to Darrell Wint but it could be linked to Steffon Wint, since the type of DNA found in hair is shared by siblings with the same mother. Darrell Wint is Daron Wint's younger half-brother and has a different mother than Daron Wint.

“There's no evidence that these people did anything,” Bach said, later adding, “This isn't about Darrel Wint and Steffon Wint no matter how much he wants it to be.”

At times, Bach's tone was caustic. She blasted Daron Wint's account when he testified in his own defense as “laughable.”

“If there's anyone in this jury that believes what Daron Wint said on the stand, you can just go right ahead and acquit him right now.”

by WTOP 12:58 PM yesterday

 

[patriciah]

Thanks for recap as I was also looking. The UTC post was a comment on FOX DC5 FB, and now I believe this confusion may have come from the sprinkler tech showing up at the house at 9:12AM, and not the afternoon telephone call with Sprinkler Mngt. (Don't understand the link with closing argument though unless it's something from the defense)??

There were multiple references in the prosecutions closing argument about the UTC issue for the phone records, as well as an hour time difference in the computer times. I don't think her last call was at 9:12 AM though. I'll check my notes but I'm almost certain that the call with the sprinkler company occurred after 1PM.

 

[Seattle1]

I was unaware of this but its alleged on FB news site that closing arguments included and/or explained that AS last phone call was at 9:12AM and not later as alleged in court because electronic timestamp by forensic experts use UTC (Coordinated Universal Time), and not local time in their reports. MOO

Commenting on my own post for correction: 9:12AM was the time that Sprinkler tech came to the house, and not the last phone call by AS. Allegation per FB is not correct.

 

[Seattle1]

Grand Jury Returns 20-Count Indictment Charging Darron Wint In Murders of Four People During Home Invasion

Overall, the jury is deciding on 20 counts against DW.....
(and trying to be patient).

 

[patriciah]

Commenting on my own post for correction: 9:12AM was the time that Sprinkler tech came to the house, and not the last phone call by AS. Allegation per FB is not correct.

The time issue was mentioned a lot by Bach because almost every piece of evidence had some weird time thing going on - UTC, 1 hour behind, 1 hour ahead - she noted that it could be confusing for the jury.
I take a lot of those facebook comments with a grain of salt. I think that people on WS are much more careful about posting facts and accurate information than the people in the facebook groups. Also I recognize some of the people from seeing them in court and there are a few conspiracy theorists with an anti prosecution bias and they tend to present their opinions as fact.

 

[Seattle1]

The time issue was mentioned a lot by Bach because almost every piece of evidence had some weird time thing going on - UTC, 1 hour behind, 1 hour ahead - she noted that it could be confusing for the jury.
I take a lot of those facebook comments with a grain of salt. I think that people on WS are much more careful about posting facts and accurate information than the people in the facebook groups. Also I recognize some of the people from seeing them in court and there are a few conspiracy theorists with an anti prosecution bias and they tend to present their opinions as fact.

Just another example how valuable your live attendance has been for us. This is my first "trial by twitter" and it's been brutal when accustomed to live stream or even transcripts. Thanks again for all your support -- much appreciated.

 

[katydid23]

I hate trying to follow a trial by tweets. It is so aggravating and things are distorted and sketchy. Very frustrating.

Patricia, I am grateful that you gave us such vital first hand notes and opinions. It has been so helpful.

I hope we don't have a hung jury or a mistrial. Let's get her done.

 

[IDK]

I hate trying to follow a trial by tweets. It is so aggravating and things are distorted and sketchy. Very frustrating.

Patricia, I am grateful that you gave us such vital first hand notes and opinions. It has been so helpful.

I hope we don't have a hung jury or a mistrial. Let's get her done.

"You can't trust the government's evidence,” Pipe said."

It sounds like the Defense attorney is playing to that one possible juror who is deeply suspicious of the government in general. Unfortunately, many folks in DC have not had good interactions with law enforcement and authority. Trust is an issue. Prayers going up that her ploy will not be successful and the jury will come back with a guilty verdict.

 

[Harmony 2]

There isn't a link at the last thread to direct people here to this new thread. I'm alerting a mod on this post - can you please put a link on the Savvas thread #23 that closed today? Thank you! I don't want to lose anyone.

It is there right above the last post.

VERDICT WATCH - DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #23

 

[MaddyM]

I hate trying to follow a trial by tweets. It is so aggravating and things are distorted and sketchy. Very frustrating.

Patricia, I am grateful that you gave us such vital first hand notes and opinions. It has been so helpful.

I hope we don't have a hung jury or a mistrial. Let's get her done.

Will it be possible to see the entire transcript after the trial is finished?