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This is from a site about Grand Theft Auto 2 Gangs, which is a video game made before ManHunt, but also uses 'smiley' faces:
  • Symbol: winking smiley face
Escaped inmates who have overrun the city's mental institution (named "SunnySide" after the Mental Institution in Montrose, Scotland, near where the game was originally developed). They appear in the Commercial District and are quite crazy. Their gang car, the Dementia, is a green microcar with their insignia painted on the roof. They wear surgical green as their gang color.

Snipped from: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_2/Gangs
 
Shadow - I would love to help with this. I won't be able to get to it till the weekend. Maybe we can split the states up? I'm thinking I can send my stuff to you and you can figure out how to put it on the board? You appear much more computer literate than I am :crazy:

What is the best software to use? I have the basics - Word table format or Excel.

Also, I think we should add names and flush it out a bit. I also want to know how many of these were "dry" drownings. Not sure we can dig that up on everyone. However, it ticks me off that "drowning" is the COD, but there is no water in the lungs which could be an indication that they were gone before they hit the water.

Let me know what you think and how you want to coordinate.
I'd say, go with excel. Makes it easy to import into a database.

In the meantime, I'm gonna write up a widget, so people can enter info on cases, as well as view the results via various sorted parameters.

Since I already have something of this nature implemented for other proggies, it will just be a matter of snagging my other code and tweaking it. I'll prolly also set up a completely seperate database and port what I have into that to make things easier.

Oops! TMI! Sorry, there I go again! LOLOL

Btw, I absolutely agree w/you wrt "dry" v "wet" drownings... Def something to take into consideration and, imho, important info to add to the database.
 
The Smileys
Described as being among the most intense pack of hunters you'll face, the Smileys appropriately occupy the the abandoned Carcer City asylum. Although they can be heard babbling hints about their past lives, imaginary dogs stealing their shoes, and regressing into caveman-like speech patterns, Smileys are not to be taken lightly. Some are musclebound murderers while others can be found wearing women's clothing , but they all wear homemade "smiley" masks, hence the name of the gang.

The Wardogs
A group of war veterans, hunting enthusiasts, and survivalists who are among Starkweathers most efficient killers, using tactics of flanking, baiting, and full frontal assaults. The appearance of the Wardogs consists of the obligatory jungle/urban camo along with ghille suits, combat boots, and face paint, although some wear scarves over their faces. Their speech contains the usual military phrases and slang one would expect to hear from such a group, but not all of them have a real military background, so some improvise. In one mission, they even go so far as to kidnap Cash's relatives, and will shoot them for every time Cash is spotted. Much of their skill can also can attributed to Ramirez, who heads the Wardogs.


The whole game is to stalk and then kill humans. It has been banned in several countries:

Germany: On 2004-07-19, the Amtsgericht Munich confiscated all versions of Manhunt for violation of § 131 StGB (representation of violence). The game, the court said, portrays the killing of humans as fun, and the more fun, the more violent the killing is. They also sensed a glorification of vigilantism, which they considered harmful per se.[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunt_%28video_game)
 
Well here's a YouTube vid of Manhunt. More vids on the right. Take your pic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBodn7YQ_E
Okay, well. If you're gonna go the youtube route, do a search for "smiley face killer." I ran across more than a few... erm... odd ones, last night. Though, nothing that struck me as particularly sinister.
 
One thing that interests me in the game is the mention of "snuff films". Could they be filming these murders?
 
Creepy sh** - what do you think the "Innocent RIFA" stood for on the guys chest?
 
One thing that interests me in the game is the mention of "snuff films". Could they be filming these murders?
Hmmm... that's an interesting angle. If so, and if they, say, sent a partial to Chris Jenkin's parents, that may be where the "mental torture" comment is coming from. Otoh, if that were the case, I would be expecting the Minneapolis Police Dept to be completely jumping on it. After all, it would mean concrete proof wrt the detectives allegations.
 
Hmmm... that's an interesting angle. If so, and if they, say, sent a partial to Chris Jenkin's parents, that may be where the "mental torture" comment is coming from. Otoh, if that were the case, I would be expecting the Minneapolis Police Dept to be completely jumping on it. After all, it would mean concrete proof wrt the detectives allegations.

I believe that the "mental torture" info came from Jaramy Alford, a POI who at the time was facing and has since pled guilty an unrelated felony murder- can anyone run him down and post ?
 
You can play Manhunt on Xbox. Trying to find out if you can play it live. Sounds so far like you can't since it's a one person game.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/m/manhunt/details.page/

Another consideration is meeting people playing Xbox live. Below is a link explaining it. My son plays on it and will ask him more when he gets home. My understanding is you can chat through a headset, Instant message and email. I think under gamer profiles you can provide alot of info about yourself if you want to. I locked my son's info from day one.

Xbox live overview
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/multiplayer101.htm

Gamer profile
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/yourgamerprofile.htm

Xbox 360 message center
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/messagecenter.htm

Making a friendslist
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/friendslist.htm
 
I believe that the "mental torture" info came from Jaramy Alford, a POI who at the time was facing and has since pled guilty an unrelated felony murder- can anyone run him down and post ?

I did and his vic was a Mr. Miller. Jaramy and his brother were both convicted of the murder. I think it's in the suspect thread.
 
More on Jaramy Alford and the murder of Douglas Miller, 32.
Jaramy's brother was also involved and convicted for the murder.

http://wcco.com/local/Jaramy.Lynn.Alford.2.364699.html

Other related articles:

 
With what I have read about Jenkins, and all the articles at that TV station link, I think the NYC retired cops are on the right track. Some kind of "Murder Club" or syndicate. Done on the internet. Different groups in different states, or even college-based. Two or three in each pod. One to watch the subject, one to befriend him, one to hone in on the kill.

Forget about the FBI. They were SOOOOOOO wrong about the Baton Rouge serial killer. Their profilers said "white guy in a white pick-up truck". Actually, it was a black man, in several different vehicles, which he borrowed from relatives and friends when he went out to kill.

I believe the FBI is way behind the curve on this one.

God Bless Jenkin's Mom! She really got the ball rolling. I hope her son's murderers are caught and prosecuted soon.
 
Judging from the timing of Chris Jenkins death, and this guy's arrest it had appeared to me that it would have been more likely he got info from a jailhouse snitch, however, I believe he and his brother were caught ditching a cargo van in the river it said originally, and then it was described as Miller's car, confusing, not sure if it was a van or car..
 
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