Whoever it was that said that JM needed to be stabbed 27 times, it might serve that person well to be stabbed 27 times so they know what Travis felt like and so they know not to open their mouth and show their stupidity, insensitivity and crudeness. I am not in favor of violence but when anyone is stupid enough and callous enough to make that statement, then they are the one who should feel the pain!
Katiecool, so glad to see you! In my jurisdiction usually the court admin/clerk is really friendly On a personal level with the judge they're assigned to. Is This generally the case in maricopa? If so... Today is the ONLY time I've ever once considered JSS would give lwp. Ever.
OMG !
Just read this thread and saw the posts about JSS's "judicial assistant" :gaah:
Okay ... can someone help me out here, please
I want to make sure I got it right:
So this info about JSS's judicial assistant came out in the videos that were just released ?
And JSS's judicial assistant said that Juan should be stabbed ?
OMG ... what a [self imposed mod snip by DGC] because if I say anything else, I may be at lalala camp !
JMO but I have NEVER liked JSS and I have always felt she had an agenda. And I have no doubt that she knows about her "judicial assistant" ... hmmm ...
MOO and :moo:
Back to lurking on this thread ... for now ... lol
Are these comments recorded or just overheard by someone ?
So....JSS is saying the deputy is a liar? Figures
No just that it can't be verified that she heard what she says she heard. It's hearsay. The judge can't do anything unless she sees/hears it herself or the assistant admits to it, which she didn't.
And, of course the jury foreman isn't going to fess up....that's for sure. But, if true, why didn't he hang the jury?
I think his number one goal was to get everyone down to murder 2. But the evidence of premediation was too clear, even he knew it. So I think he decided it was better to hang things up in the penalty phase, where he thought the automatic decision would be life if they hung. The fear was that another jury would come in and not only give her first degree but give her death as well. So he chose plan B.
That's my theory anyway.
No just that it can't be verified that she heard what she says she heard. It's hearsay. The judge can't do anything unless she sees/hears it herself or the assistant admits to it, which she didn't.
Janet, the person who JSS identified as her "judicial assistant" is, how to say this delicately, not too popular with trial watchers or the first jury.
So....JSS is saying the deputy is a liar? Figures
ALL OF YOU!!! GOING ON AND ON ABOUT "JANET" BEING A TOAD ... SOMEONE IN THE DT'S BACK POCKET ....
Read the top of this thread or at least refer to quote above. Janet reported that a JUDICIAL ASST (un-named) made the alleged comments. Janet didn't make the statements. She REPORTED them.
If you can't take the time to get the facts straight -- even after several posters here proffered those facts -- then at least take the time to watch the video of the hearing.
Sorry. I don't go off very often, but it really frosts me when fellow posters get sloppy. This entire discussion about Janet Pittman being the person who SAID these inflammatory statements is based on ignorance.
Editing to add: This incident happened during the FIRST trial, not the sentencing trial.
My understanding from the tape is
Jennifer Pittman reported to JM the incidents.
The Janet that everyone is talking about is a judicial asst.
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My apologies. But several posters seemed to confuse the two as (evidently) did I.
So how, under WS TOS, are we able to "assume" a judicial asst. named "Janet" is to blame for the inflammatory remarks?