Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

[Truthwillsetufree]

I think it was the other way around .He told CA he lost the money gambling,but "admited to LE it was actually getting stung by a Nigerian scam. He didn't want Cindy to know,IIRC

Well now how in the world does a person rationalize that online gambling is better than getting duped by a Nigerian scam....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[MissJames]

I'm not sure these doctors had spoken to KC recently they were just going to give opinions. Dr. D had examined her when she was arrested though and she could have said something then and it was brought up during questioning before the trial. Could it be the doctor felt she was lying???? jmo

I thought they were originally scheduled as witnesses in the penalty phase,but AF felt they would be useful in the guilt phase and made a request to add them after the deadline.

 

[MissJames]

Well now how in the world does a person rationalize that online gambling is better than getting duped by a Nigerian scam....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Oh believe me,it's another Anthony mystery about their thought process . I don't even believe he's told the truth ,yet.

 

[RANCH]

Well now how in the world does a person rationalize that online gambling is better than getting duped by a Nigerian scam....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

I guess with gambling you have "some" chance of winning. With a Nigerian scam your just plain being stupid. MOO.

 

[Justin Tyme]

I back tracked the post you quoted and it appears it started with a post about George Anthony. I think its getting a bit twisted after few quotes on top of quotes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMacGyver View Post
As an ex detective I think your posts are invaluable. I would imagine you see things alot of us miss just as JA looked at the duct tape and saw those pictures telling a very clear story in his eyes. It's always fascinated me how people who are in their choosen profession for years can spot things right away that the rest of us are sometimes blind to..Thanks!....

That's why they're getting paid for it and were not. Not only are they trained for it, the more you do of something the better you get at it. They probably have spotted a few more things that none of has even thought of and it's probably staring us right in the face.

Explain to me how my response to what was said seems twisted because of what was said previous to what I responded to.

I was responding to that one particular post. Not to whomever they were responding to.

 

[RANCH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMacGyver View Post
As an ex detective I think your posts are invaluable. I would imagine you see things alot of us miss just as JA looked at the duct tape and saw those pictures telling a very clear story in his eyes. It's always fascinated me how people who are in their choosen profession for years can spot things right away that the rest of us are sometimes blind to..Thanks!....

That's why they're getting paid for it and were not. Not only are they trained for it, the more you do of something the better you get at it. They probably have spotted a few more things that none of has even thought of and it's probably staring us right in the face.

Explain to me how my response to what was said seems twisted because of what was said previous to what I responded to.

See this post. Its about George, not about current LE.

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[Justin Tyme]

See this post. Its about George, not about current LE.

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NOPE. I went back and this is what I had quoted and what he had quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Concerned Papa View Post
If he knew that CA had been in touch with KC and knew it was not KC, why was his testimony in the murder trial that he walked up to the car praying words to the effect of "please don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter"?

As for going into a "protective mode" until they could make sense of what was going on, destroying evidence by scrubbing the trunk and washing the clothes does not fall into the categorization of "protective mode" but rather the category of "coverup mode". It's hard for anyone to "get to the bottom of it" with the evidence destroyed.

As an ex detective, there's no way that was an ignorant little oopsie.

As an ex detective I think your posts are invaluable. I would imagine you see things alot of us miss just as JA looked at the duct tape and saw those pictures telling a very clear story in his eyes. It's always fascinated me how people who are in their choosen profession for years can spot things right away that the rest of us are sometimes blind to..Thanks!....

and this person was speaking to Concerned Papa. I was was responding to what he was saying to concerned papa. To the third paragraph, actually the last paragraph, not to the first or second. Do you follow that?

 

[RANCH]

NOPE. I went back and this is what I had quoted and what he had quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Concerned Papa View Post
If he knew that CA had been in touch with KC and knew it was not KC, why was his testimony in the murder trial that he walked up to the car praying words to the effect of "please don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter"?

As for going into a "protective mode" until they could make sense of what was going on, destroying evidence by scrubbing the trunk and washing the clothes does not fall into the categorization of "protective mode" but rather the category of "coverup mode". It's hard for anyone to "get to the bottom of it" with the evidence destroyed.

As an ex detective, there's no way that was an ignorant little oopsie.

As an ex detective I think your posts are invaluable. I would imagine you see things alot of us miss just as JA looked at the duct tape and saw those pictures telling a very clear story in his eyes. It's always fascinated me how people who are in their choosen profession for years can spot things right away that the rest of us are sometimes blind to..Thanks!....

and this person was speaking to Concerned Papa. I was was responding to what he was saying to concerned papa. To the third paragraph, actually the last paragraph, not to the first or second. Do you follow that?

I'm sorry, but I can't follow what your trying to say. Don't worry, I'm sure its just me.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Has Papa been on here flashing his badge again?:seeya:

 

[Concerned Papa]

Has Papa been on here flashing his badge again?:seeya:

Look folks, I'm not an ex detective. If that inference was drawn from my post I apologize. I'm just an opinionated WS member trying to understand people's actions and words.

For example....since I first joined WS......I've been trying to understand one particular old dude sleepin on a park bench with his drool cup while sportin an FBI shirt!

It's been a daunting challenge! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[crocus]

Has Papa been on here flashing his badge again?:seeya:

I was blinded by something when I ventured into this thread......:sunshine:


lol

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Look folks, I'm not an ex detective. If that inference was drawn from my post I apologize. I'm just an opinionated WS member trying to understand people's actions and words.

For example....since I first joined WS......I've been trying to understand one particular old dude sleepin on a park bench with his drool cup while sportin an FBI shirt!

It's been a daunting challenge! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

:innocent::innocent::innocent: I think I spilled my drool cup.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I was blinded by something when I ventured into this thread......:sunshine:


lol

Cheese it baby, I think the cops are here:floorlaugh:

 

[crocus]

Look folks, I'm not an ex detective. If that inference was drawn from my post I apologize. I'm just an opinionated WS member trying to understand people's actions and words.

For example....since I first joined WS......I've been trying to understand one particular old dude sleepin on a park bench with his drool cup while sportin an FBI shirt!

It's been a daunting challenge! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[SevenSeas]

All I know after reading and seeing, ...is that Cindy is what she is. <modsnip>....Period. She's not even grateful enough that her psycho spawn beat the murder charges. Something sick about her compells her to be in the public AGAIN, to try and gloss things over. Sickening, it is!

Pssst... Cindy Anthony...It's NOT working. You are more transparent than Saran wrap, OK? Just stop with all of your BS, Nobody's buying it...EVER!

 

[Azcrabcakes]

Imo...the A's have now become a "crime family," albeit one from the modern suburbs...and CA is like "Ma Barker" Ma Barker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, to ME, she looks more like George! LOL! See what I made... (Any videos after this one on PhotoBucket are NOT mine)
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[Tulessa]

The only reason Cindy defends Casey is because she sees that as something a good mother would do. It's part of her con. No denial. No guilt. No trying to protect the daughter she loves. I don't believe any of those things motivate Cindy Anthony.

Remember her interview, "what kind of mother would I be if I didn't support my daughter?" or something very close to that. Cindy doesn't give a carp about anyone but Cindy, imo. Cindy cares only about how she is perceived and what she can get. She ain't lying out of guilt, denial or love. She is lying for personal gain. The supportive mother in denial routine garners her sympathy with some. It allows her to start a foundation to rake in cash. If she admits how she really feels and what she really knows, she becomes an accomplice of sorts. Gone is the sympathy and opportunity for financial gain. Gone is the "supportive mother and doting grandmother" persona. Casey has been on to her mom for years. She has Cindy's number. Cindy knows Casey is her mirror image and probably admires Casey for killing her daughter and managing to get away with it. She has Casey's number. George and Lee are hot messes that don't know how to handle these psychotic women so they just do as they're told and hope for the best.

I can not give one bit of credit for any sincere feeling to Cindy or Casey Anthony. To me, their shallow callousness and self-absorption is transparent. Sweet Caylee Marie Anthony is dead because neither of these two women have sincere loving feelings and the child got caught in the vortex of their competitive hateful relationship. Psychos.

ALL JMO...

So true, and I think Dr. Phil put it best when he said, * Why all the loyalty to KC? What about Caylee?
That IMO spoke volumes....

 

[fla-pa]

Didn't think about that. If they had asked CA about the fight and she lied and said there was none it probably would have made the state's case.

Good point. It makes sense that Lee was the one who told them not to take the lie detector test, since he's the one who told LE about the fight on June 15. If this had come into evidence, I agree the outcome of the trial would likely have been different. It is even more galling (not to mention illogical) for Cindy to say that the verdict showed Casey's innocence when she was the one who lied on the stand and withheld key evidence that would probably have convicted her.

 

[LambChop]

Good point. It makes sense that Lee was the one who told them not to take the lie detector test, since he's the one who told LE about the fight on June 15. If this had come into evidence, I agree the outcome of the trial would likely have been different. It is even more galling (not to mention illogical) for Cindy to say that the verdict showed Casey's innocence when she was the one who lied on the stand and withheld key evidence that would probably have convicted her.

At some point we will stop thinking about this case everyday and wondering how Caylee died. CA will think about it every day of her life from the time she wakes up until the time she falls asleep. And everytime she looks in KC's eyes, if she gets the chance, she will see the truth in KC's eyes.

I truly believe it is easy for CA to lie to everyone else but she knows the truth and that will never give her a moment's peace. jmo

 

[miss plum]

I was thinking about these interviews, and how utterly bat***** insane CA comes across in them with her ludicrous claims defending KC (based on what I've read, I have kept my word and not watched them), and how GA is bravely and defiantly pointing the finger at KC, and it occurs to me that maybe we are reading the Anthonys' motivations and the interviews the wrong way round, and maybe CA and GA secretly want her protestations of KC's innocence to be too ridiculous to be believed by anyone, and their aim is to strongly accuse KC of murder (via GA's responses and Dr Phil's assessments of the case) but weakly pretend to protect her (via CA's ludicrous claims). That would explain why GA is willing to speak for himself all of a sudden; he has CA's blessing to do so. When CA says, 'That's the first time in 3 years I've heard you say this...' it reeks of bad acting.

The whole thing could be another exercise in passive-aggression engineered by CA and designed to infuriate KC and convince the public she is definitely guilty. It's always seemed to me that CA has had dual conflicting aims throughout this case: she wanted to get KC off, and to make KC pay. Her behavior has been highly incongruent: clean the car and destroy evidence, then call the police and say the car smells of death. Vilify KC then defend her to the hilt. In court, she testified against her and for her. These are just a few examples, I've seen her do it over and over.

I have frequently noticed this same duality with my own narcissistic mother. For example, she would send us to bed early and not let us study before an important exam, and then expect us to get 100% and be angry when we didn't.

Anyway, just a few thoughts. I would absolutely love it if Aedrys' theory that maybe Dr Phil is going to turn everything back on them in the third episode turns out to be true. It would almost redeem him doing the interviews if he did. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens on Monday.