Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[Dee10]

To me that shows or is intended to show that when MR first went to the Marshalls Office, he thought Dylan was goofing off, not gone forever.

Only MR knows what his intent was.

Could be or it could explain why he didn't report Dylan missing earlier (to buy time), in that he made it seem nonchalant.

 

[Money Girl]

But, imo, there are so many red flags exhibited by Marks behavior, statements, stories and inconsistencies, that i have a hard time even considering these alternate scenarios.


An alternate POI had a very small window of opportunity. Mark had a 12 hour window. It is hard to imagine that a random friend or acquaintance was a more lilkely perp, after knowing al I now know about mark and his situation. He had a very powerful motive, one that is quite common in fratricides. Rage fueled vengeance.

I agree with most of your comment. But, I don't understand what Mark's powerful motive was.

 

[azgrandma]

I've thought a lot about everything that is known, everything that LE has stated over the past seven months. What catches me the most, what is most disturbing, is that they have determined this to be a homicide but insist that the public is safe and a killer isn't running around out there (paraphrasing Dan Bender interviews). MOO, that tells me that they have, since their last press release in March, know who the suspect is and have been confident that it is an isolated and horrible crime upon Dylan, no other children within the community are in danger. Is that because no other children are within MR's grasp? IDK. MOO, they won't name anyone a POI until they have an arrest.

What disturbs me the most is the cold manner in which MR talked about the body of his son. I don't know about you (in general), but I couldn't talk about a deceased pet dog with as calm of a tone that he used to describe the remains of his son, very disturbing IMO.

 

[azgrandma]

Originally Posted by Ghostwheel
The words were "Bang him in the head." from post 79 on the media thread. TRANSCRIPT: KUSA - Melissa Blasius - Uncut Interview with Mark Redwine Posted 2-4-2013

To me that shows or is intended to show that when MR first went to the Marshalls Office, he thought Dylan was goofing off, not gone forever.

Only MR knows what his intent was.

Or that his wife was making more of this than needed to be. MOO, reporting Dylan as missing was a buy for time on MR's part. I only wonder, does he still think his ex wife is making more of it than needs to be, now.

 

[katydid23]

To me that shows or is intended to show that when MR first went to the Marshalls Office, he thought Dylan was goofing off, not gone forever.

Only MR knows what his intent was.

Then why does Mark now berate LE for not putting out an Amber Alert on Dylan. Isn't that kind of hypocritical of him?

Those are the kinds of things that bother me about Mark. He obviously thought there was no problem, since he took a nice nap, and casually began his 'search.' And then never actually talked to Cory or Elaine to ask for any help in figuring out where Dylan might have gone.

He goes to the marshal, cracks a joke about them finding Dylan and smacking him upside the head, and then months later, he makes a big deal about the LE being incompetent because they did not immediately send out the Alert. That is dishonest and hypocritical behavior on Mark's part, imo.

 

[azgrandma]

I agree with most of your comment. But, I don't understand what Mark's powerful motive was.

Revenge is a powerful motive.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Originally Posted by Ghostwheel
The words were "Bang him in the head." from post 79 on the media thread. TRANSCRIPT: KUSA - Melissa Blasius - Uncut Interview with Mark Redwine Posted 2-4-2013


Or that his wife was making more of this than needed to be. MOO, reporting Dylan as missing was a buy for time on MR's part. I only wonder, does he still think his ex wife is making more of it than needs to be, now.

That's the thing. His ex-wife and Cory know him better than anyone. They immediately were panicked. That tells me a lot! Their gut instincts were heard loud and clear, from day one....

 

[Linda7NJ]

Then why does Mark now berate LE for not putting out an Amber Alert on Dylan. Isn't that kind of hypocritical of him?

Those are the kinds of things that bother me about Mark. He obviously thought there was no problem, since he took a nice nap, and casually began his 'search.' And then never actually talked to Cory or Elaine to ask for any help in figuring out where Dylan might have gone.

He goes to the marshal, cracks a joke about them finding Dylan and smacking him upside the head, and then months later, he makes a big deal about the LE being incompetent because they did not immediately send out the Alert. That is dishonest and hypocritical behavior on Mark's part, imo.

Just another example of deflecting blame and responsibility, there are sooo many Similar examplesI've lost track!

 

[katydid23]

I agree with most of your comment. But, I don't understand what Mark's powerful motive was.

If you read the latest research about 'fathers who kill their children' there are a few main motives. One is financial gain. Insurance payouts or stopping the child support payments. But one of the main motives is VENGEANCE against the ex spouse. And the fathers quite often are triggered by major changes, like the wife finalizing the divorce OR MOVING AWAY OR REMARRYING.

A few of those research links have been posted upstream.

ETA: in Mark's case, he had three of the main motive triggers.

 

[azgrandma]

quote 812 Linda7NJ : Not buying it. He would have texted his friends that were expecting him.

the mountain is quite close so it could of been seen as a quick side trip before going to his friends. i do think there is the possibility that someone saw MR leave and dropped by,or met Dylan on the road if Dylan decided to head off on his own. i don't know how text obsessive Dylan was or if MR had taken his electronics. jmo

I don't think that mountain would or could be considered a quick side trip, did you see the terrain? Grown men were almost parallel with the ground. That IMO is not a quick side trip. That's an all day hike with proper gear and plenty of water at a minimum. Not something that a 13 y/o would do, MOO.

 

[La Louve]

I agree with most of your comment. But, I don't understand what Mark's powerful motive was.

IMO the motive could be money.
IMO the loss of child support + the obligation to now pay child support could = powerful motive.

 

[Linda7NJ]

IMO the motive could be money.
IMO the loss of child support + the obligation to now pay child support could = powerful motive.

My money is on vengeance.
He never misses a single opportunity to say something about his ex.

There is a whole lot of history there. IMO he is someone that would never agree to anything, impossible to compromise with. ( divorce & custody) and use that to torture her. He can't let her go and now seems to take every opportunity to twist the knife into her a little more. All IMO

 

[cluciano63]

For me, the chance of Dylan doing anything that morning without texting R back = zero.

 

[cindysue]

Usually don't the cops look at who has a motive and opportunity to find the poi? It's that simple usually

 

[cluciano63]

Oh, I didn't know. I didn't ever see a police report.

This came from MR himself, in one of his interviews.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Usually don't the cops look at who has a motive and opportunity to find the poi?

Yep, and the last person they were with, they start there and work outwards....

Hopefully eliminating family first.

That hasn't happened. IMO

 

[Salem]

I've always wanted to know exactly who else knew that Dylan was at his dad's that week.

I've also always thought in a situation like that it would be easy for the driver to say, "Hold off calling for a bit, you can call your dad/mom/friends when we get past the dam and you get a better signal."

Me too. And there were/are some RSOs that appear to have an interest in children. I know the window of opportunity is narrow - but we have seen so many cases where the window of opportunity was just a few minutes.

I still think there is a strong possibility that something else could have happened. I do agree that the arrow of suspicion is pointed directly at MR because there are some things that just haven't been explained and some behaviors by MR that are just not understandable for me. But I also think Dylan could have walked out of the house that morning, intending to get a ride.

I think if Dylan was at all able, he would have answered RN's text. I also think he would have called for a ride and I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that MR has a land line. So if MR did confiscate Dylan's electronics, Dylan could have used the landline. Because Dylan grew up in Bayfield, an area with bad cell reception, I do believe he would have known how to use the phone and that he probably remembered a few phone numbers. Maybe he didn't remember RN's grandma's phone number?

I also tend to believe MR loved Dylan and it is very difficult to understand, how, if he did in fact love Dylan, he can manage to get through the days without telling Law Enforcement what happened. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I really wish he would tell LE the truth and either clear his name, so this case can move forward, or confess and let Dylan have some peace.

Salem

 

[cluciano63]

I too wish that LE would just say, once and for all, that MR is cleared. Repeatedly saying he has not been named a suspect is not at all the same thing. I can't believe they have not determined whether he is or is not a serious contender by now. The longer they go without making a point of clearing him makes me believe that everything they are doing and saying is pointing to him.

 

[margarita25]

That's the thing. His ex-wife and Cory know him better than anyone. They immediately were panicked. That tells me a lot! Their gut instincts were heard loud and clear, from day one....

You know, there's been some local talk up here in the Denver area ("You heard they found that little boy who was missing, right?...") Well, at yesterday's 4th of July bbq I over heard these words and ended up contributing to the conversation for those who didn't know the facts/details (the date of his disappearance, the general area where he was found, etc.). Well, one guy said "I heard they think the dad might've done it...". I said, "Well he hasn't been officially named as a suspect, but his other son, Dylan's brother Cory who was really close to Dylan, seems to think his dad did it." You know what the guy said in response? "Well, that's good enough for me." (Not someone the defense would want on a jury obviously, just sayin what he said.)

 

[Linda7NJ]

Me too. And there were/are some RSOs that appear to have an interest in children. I know the window of opportunity is narrow - but we have seen so many cases where the window of opportunity was just a few minutes.

I still think there is a strong possibility that something else could have happened. I do agree that the arrow of suspicion is pointed directly at MR because there are some things that just haven't been explained and some behaviors by MR that are just not understandable for me. But I also think Dylan could have walked out of the house that morning, intending to get a ride.

I think if Dylan was at all able, he would have answered RN's text. I also think he would have called for a ride and I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that MR has a land line. So if MR did confiscate Dylan's electronics, Dylan could have used the landline. Because Dylan grew up in Bayfield, an area with bad cell reception, I do believe he would have known how to use the phone and that he probably remembered a few phone numbers. Maybe he didn't remember RN's grandma's phone number?

I also tend to believe MR loved Dylan and it is very difficult to understand, how, if he did in fact love Dylan, he can manage to get through the days without telling Law Enforcement what happened. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I really wish he would tell LE the truth and either clear his name, so this case can move forward, or confess and let Dylan have some peace.

Salem

Are we allowed to discuss the edited out information from the Dr. Phil show? It was discussed on Tricia's radio show in detail.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/03/18/websleuths-radio