Ebola outbreak - general thread #1

[Lyra500]

Do you have any suggestions about where to find information regarding proper attire to clean up ebola vomit?

In the UK our Public Health authority has provided guidelines for hospital staff on all aspects of what may be required:

• Questions to ask anyone arriving from West Africa and presenting with fever
• what to do with person if answers to questions indicate a cause for concern
• How to isolate and treat in hospital
• what personal protective equipment to wear when treating patients and dealing with clinical waste bedding etc
• Hoe to dispose of contaminated bedding etc

I have to admit to being absolutely gob-smacked that the CDC or spokespeople at the press conferences you are all describing seem a little lost about what to do.

Even if for some unfathomable reason the CDC didn't get their ducks in a row and produce their own protocols, the WHO has a wealth of documents on their website.

Here is just one example: http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/ebola/filovirus_infection_control/en/
Infection prevention and control guidance for care of patients in health-care settings, with focus on Ebola

There really is no way bedding etc should have been left or that two untrained and unprotected people should have been sent to clear up the highly infectious vomit. Inexcusable.

 

[Le Singe]

AIDS can be treated. It will NOT kill you as quickly as Ebola does. Not at all comparable. Ebola can kill within 48 hours of exposure to it.

i think he is referring the the mass hysteria caused and thing people did based on wild rumors etc.

 

[popsicle]

CDC @CDCgov · 59m59 minutes ago

.@MyBronyNinja #Ebola has been found in semen for up to 3 mos. It doesn't survive long outside of body, depends on the environment. #CDCchat


CDC @CDCgov · 59m59 minutes ago

.@mloxton Body fluids include but are not limited to- vomit, feces, saliva, sweat, vaginal fluid, semen, & breast milk.


CDC Emergency @CDCemergency · 45m45 minutes ago

.@CO_Pinecone CDC is here 24/7 to take calls from concerned medical/hospital staff - 100 calls, 24 states, 15 tests, 1 positive.

 

[Yoda]

Can Fatu Kekula be in charge of the US ebola outbreak?

An article about her was posted up thread a few days ago. She took care of her sick family and had a better survival rate then the clinics.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/health/ebola-fatu-family/

 

[sloane7777]

I hate to say it (no I dont ) I have lived in dallas since 98, I must say when I moved here I thought in general most people I have met that are in a position of authority, or even doing day to day business, have been some of the biggest dummies I have come in contact with, now, most have been transplants from all over, so my theory is not nessesarly Dallas people are stupid, but we seem to attract some real dummies! Im sorry but I have seen some stupid stuff and honestly very little of it has been locals, my boss who is from here says Dallas for the most part people are stupid and shallow. I gotta say this confirms it for me, no offense)

 

[SCHMAE]

Dengue Fever??

I don't know. Now I'm wondering if it had not to do with mortality but speed. Is Marburg one that hits and kills you way quicker, like within hours? Something like that , in my mind, would be ' worse'. But who knows. It was ages ago.

 

[LinasK]

More about the woman Thomas Eric Duncan handled:
In Duncan's Liberian neighborhood, a collection of tin-roofed homes, has been ravaged by Ebola. So many people have fallen ill that neighbors are too frightened to comfort a 9-year-old girl who lost her mother to the disease.
The 19-year-old pregnant woman was convulsing and complaining of stomach pain, and everyone thought her problems were related to her pregnancy, in its seventh month. No ambulance would come for her, and the group that put her in a taxi never did find a hospital.
She eventually died, and in the following weeks, all the neighbors who helped have gotten sick or died, neighbors said. http://news.yahoo.com/dallas-er-sent-ebola-infected-patient-home-050718374.html

 

[Irisha]

correct in addition to the fact that the trip was clearly planed before he was exposed.

Once he knew he was exposed, it was IMO his duty as a human being to cancel his trip and not expose his family and countless others. NOT fly 1/2 way around the planet. I don't care if he didn't have symptoms, he was EXPOSED to a deadly virus. His g/f and 2 others are now stuck in a contaminated apt. I will save my compassion for those stuck in that possibly deadly apt.:moo:

 

[Le Singe]

Sorry, I don't know how to reference a tweet on here but I just read on the CDC Tweet thing that people will only test positive when they are symptomatic.
Seems like that poses a real problem to weed out who is infected vs who is not, without the real possibility of spreading the virus.

the reason you test negative is you don't have lots of the virus in your fluids yet so although you test negative you are also have almost no chance of spreading it.

 

[LinasK]

Hey, they used to have buildings to house patients with TB to quarantine them, now we'll need them for Ebola patients. Better safe than endangering the general public. Better to be inconvenienced.

 

[Lyra500]

Can Fatu Kekula be in charge of the US ebola outbreak?

An article about her was posted up thread a few days ago. She took care of her sick family and had a better survival rate then the clinics.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/health/ebola-fatu-family/

Thank you for that link.

What a fabulous story - amazing woman.

On a really shallow note, did you scroll through the pictures and see Fatu's mum? There is no way she looks 57 years old. No way!

 

[Trino]

Oh, my, gosh. Eighty (EIGHTY) being monitored!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eight...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDUzMV8x

 

[BunnyHop]

Hey, they used to have buildings to house patients with TB to quarantine them, now we'll need them for Ebola patients. Better safe than endangering the general public. Better to be inconvenienced.

That or Fema Camps :scared:

 

[Gardenlady]

Oh, my, gosh. Eighty (EIGHTY) being monitored!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eight...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDUzMV8x

This is a GOOD thing. That means they are being extremely cautious and casting a wide net, and including in their monitoring even people with little contact with the patient.

You WANT a high number being monitored. Far better too many than too few.


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[SCHMAE]

OT But its' super stormy here . I guess it won't matter, just thought I'd throw that out there. I'm imagining bags of contaminated stuff from the apartment being thrown hither and yon in 60 mph winds. ( yes im a fatalist )

 

[LaLaw2000]

Vaughn Sterling ‏@vplus 14s15 seconds ago
BREAKING: U.S. sending hundreds more troops to Africa, in addition to the 3,000 already announced, to help #ebola response -@barbarastarrcnn

Oh, man! I don't like this one little bit. I have family in the military and certainly would not want a loved one going there.

 

[Gardenlady]

That or Fema Camps :scared:

Fema camps are a fever dream of conspiracy theorists that have been thoroughly debunked. One of many, many thorough articles: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps


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[Gardenlady]

I voted for Obama, but I sure wish he'd close the borders to those flying in from Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, and Guinea.

Why Nigeria? They completely shut down the outbreak they had.

I suppose you could make a case for the other countries, but out of how many millions of people there are the actual numbers of infected?


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[popsicle]

Four members of a family the U.S. Ebola patient was staying with were confined to their Texas home under armed guard Thursday as the circle of people possibly exposed to the virus widened and Liberian authorities said they would prosecute the man for allegedly lying on an airport questionnaire.
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Duncan filled out a series of questions about his health and activities before leaving on his journey to Dallas. On a Sept. 19 form obtained by The Associated Press, he answered no to all of them.
Among other questions, the form asked whether Duncan had cared for an Ebola patient or touched the body of anyone who had died in an area affected by Ebola.


http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/26...ome?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Le Singe]

Once he knew he was exposed, it was IMO his duty as a human being to cancel his trip and not expose his family and countless others. NOT fly 1/2 way around the planet. I don't care if he didn't have symptoms, he was EXPOSED to a deadly virus. His g/f and 2 others are now stuck in a contaminated apt. I will save my compassion for those stuck in that possibly deadly apt.:moo:

he shouldn't have lied on the questionnaire, but I think people who are wishing him dead and the like are being a little extreme, no?