Ebola outbreak - general thread #6

[rabidstoat]

Happy news:

Teresa Romero and drink fluids and talked to her husband by phone

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2014/10/15/actualidad/1413377043_212612.html

Though there's a part that's a bit sad, in that she hasn't been told that her dog, Excalibur, was put down:

The nursing assistant infected by Ebola, Teresa Romero, was able to speak with her husband for the first time since last Wednesday. They spoke over telephone for about ten minutes, but he has not told her that her dog, Excalibur, has died. Romero has been drinking liquids since last night, and it was she who asked to communicate with her husband, as noted by a friend of the family, Teresa Mesa, who acted as spokesman to the media at the gates of the Hospital Universitario La Paz-Carlos III de Madrid after visiting with her husband.

Later in the article a friend commented about how the things closest to Romero were "her dog, her husband, and little else." It's great that she seems to be recovering, but she's going to be very sad when she finds out about the dog.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Committee chair: concerned about no travel restrictions.

DeGette, Colorado: ebola became concerning in spring. Going over ebola facts with Friedan. (She has some kind of agenda and I have to go for a little while....)

Ask Texas health is there was actual training, answer "no". He has now changed into deposition mode: yes, no, I don't know. (IMO)

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The CDC guy needs to go imo.

Help, we need a leader. Is Colin Powell still available? Anybody we can trust around anywhere?

 

[cady]

NRDSB4 THANKS! I thank the stars, too. JMO

 

[Hatfield]

The CDC guy needs to go imo.

Total incompetance. And not treating it serious enough. He is doing nothing to ENSURE the people are staying away from others even when they show signs of fever. UNACCEPTABLE

Self monitoring is not working

 

[Ladylub]

The CDC guy needs to go imo.

He may quit and go live under ground somewhere b/c not many people are trusting his ability right now.

 

[Sophieandme]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we will now have 3 patients in the four biocontainment hospitals (Pham, 2nd Dallas nurse, and Who unidentified patient). So that leaves approximately 5-10 total beds left in these 4 facilities!!! We read yesterday that all four hospitals only have a total of 8-13 beds available.

I would assume some major negotiating, planning, modeling is going on behind the scenes for "regional Ebola hospitals". Not only for treatment, but for containment/isolation as well. But I would not bet on it......

 

[SStarr33]

Dirty diapers left out in piles.

And the nurse who was interviewed today said the folks from the CDC just walked by them! Unreal.

 

[elfie]

Who would seek such transmission? It's far more likely that people have failed to obey best practices. No one (other than someone who is criminally insane) would seek to deliberately introduce this disease into our society.

Explain letting the nurse fly with a fever, after a similar period of time in which Duncan had become contagious. It makes no sense whatsoever. They do not seem to be taking the outbreak seriously. For months we have seen the gear the MSF uses, but somehow our health care workers don't require the same amount of protection? I think you could pretty much tell from post that I am furious about the approach so far. Have they deluded themselves through their own downplay in the media?

 

[SCHMAE]

OMG.....Dr. Fanci just totally contradicted the reason why the patient is being transferred. He just said it was to get better care. That contradicts what Texas said as to staffing.

Here we go. Who do we believe. Good grief.

Believe No one. Trust your gut !

 

[Sigh Sister]

Frieden has a habit of not answering the questions asked.

 

[rabidstoat]

Friedan: not personally involved in Amber's call to CDC and he hasn't seen transcript. He understands she reported no symptoms.

Before they were taking 101.5 degree fever to be a symptom. To me, that implies she might have told them she had a lesser fever, like 99.5 or even 100.5, and they did not count that (technically speaking) as a symptom.

 

[bettybaby00]

Whiskey
Foxtrot
Tango

@JasonWhitely: My understanding is #AmberVinson reported NO symptoms to us when she asked to fly, @CDCgov Dir Dr. Tom Frieden tells Congress. #Ebola

than why did she even call?

i guess we could surmise she called b/c upon hearing about Nina, she became concerned. but that would beg the question, was she asked "are you symptomatic?"

if this happened, and she said i have a fever of 99.5, did this CDC person look at a chart and conclude, "hmmm, fever below threshold, so she can pack her bags?"

SMH

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Explain letting the nurse fly with a fever, after a similar period of time in which Duncan had become contagious. It makes no sense whatsoever. They do not seem to be taking the outbreak seriously. For months we have seen the gear the MSF uses, but somehow our health care workers don't require the same amount of protection? I think you could pretty much tell from post that I am furious about the approach so far. Have they deluded themselves through their own downplay in the media?

And the nurse told the CDC she had a fever. Because it wasn't 104 degrees (practically dead already for an adult) she was given clearance to fly on a commercial flight. Now all of those unsuspecting people/passengers (who place their faith in these government officials) are under house arrest. Poor souls, can you imagine the stress they are under all because of another mistake (that is counter intuitive to begin with) was made.

 

[Isabelle]

Frieden has a habit of not answering the questions asked.

I hate that. He needs to be called down for skirting the issues!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Troops from Fort Campbell being sent over to Africa. They will have their temperatures monitored.
God, save us. Please pray for our troops.

 

[Isabelle]

He may quit and go live under ground somewhere b/c not many people are trusting his ability right now.

I think we will hear of his sudden resignation in the next week.

 

[Sophieandme]

http://www.wfsb.com/story/26802243/yale-new-haven-hospital-treating-quarantined-patient

Yale research student admitted to hospital with Ebola-like symptoms

Posted: Oct 16, 2014 8:57 AM EDT
Updated: Oct 16, 2014 12:22 PM EDT

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Yale research student admitted to hospital with Ebola-like symptoms.

They confirmed that the patient was one of the Yale University student researchers that helped monitor the Ebola outbreak in Liberia last month. That student was one of two who had been tested in Liberia. Both had negative results. They came back home on Oct. 11.

BBM

(don't like the sound of this...)

 

[Isabelle]

The CDC guy needs to go imo.

Help, we need a leader. Is Colin Powell still available? Anybody we can trust around anywhere?

Bring back the Surgeon General who retired. Can't remember his name. Is it Koop or something like that?

ETA: NM he is no longer with us.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Question time:

Friedan: not personally involved in Amber's call to CDC and he hasn't seen transcript. He understands she reported no symptoms.

Fauci: Pham... Will people in contact with her (medical care) have travel restriction? No. Her condition is the same. She has not deteriorated. She is getting moved to get skilled care. Stable. Doing reasonably well. NIH has limited capacity of beds for future cases. Two beds, Pham gets one.

Why would the Director of the agency have not personally followed up on this? This has been reported in the MSM for two days now. Is this a case of "plausible deniability"? If I don't personally investigate this, when anyone questions me about it I can answer "I don't know".

If the Director of the CDC doesn't know, who DOES know?