Explosion at the Boston Marathon #3

[jjenny]

Could of not known it was a bomb but a drug drop-yes, sounds stupid, but may not have known.

That's extremely far fetched-to say the least.

 

[thesaint]

You never know...it's sooo bizarre...did you see the FB post about the fortune cookie? The fortune says "your wish is about to come true" posted 18 hours ago. Bizarre.

What FB post?

 

[jjenny]

That looks like good match

Not even close.
One is a caucasian male.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

So it looks like the suspect just dropped his back on the ground in the crowd and walked away. And it was close to the explosion so nobody had time to notice the bag un-attended.

Yes and also, everyone's attention is focused elsewhere on the race, and in a crowd that tight I think it would be difficult to even notice a bag dropped on the ground, kwim? Not like a person would notice a bag on the sidewalk with no one around it.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

The FBI has shredded remnants of a backpack that contained one of the bombs - of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

Linking the shredded remnants of the bomb-containing backpack to an alleged suspect's backpack is a whole 'nother matter. I don't think one can do that based on video images alone, despite sophisticated video technology.

The FBI has NOT stated that the backpack that was allegedly dropped/placed/left by one of the possible POIs contained a bomb. They have stated that they want to locate the person(s) in the video, as potential persons of interest in the bombing.

I don't recall any FBI spokesperson stating emphatically that the backpack allegedly dropped/placed/left by the possible POI/suspect in the video footage definitely contained a bomb.

There has been a tremendous amount of misinformation circulated since Monday. I think it's important to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims.

If you want to believe that the FBI did "Eeny--Meeny--Miney--Moe" to find two suspects, go ahead.

 

[The One]

I have not heard this mentioned, but we all can clearly observe:
The first bomb went off near the FLAGS at the finish area.
What were these flags, and what flag was closest to the bomb? Could it be a possible clue?

 

[laura08]

Is there a link to the note? I've been looking for it

LE has not released the note or anything the note may have said.

 

[wfgodot]

o/t a bit but if anyone is so inclined, say a prayer for peace tomorrow as it's the anniversary of the Murrah Building bombing. On 19 April I think many of us here in Oklahoma hold our breaths, hoping no repeat performance occurs anywhere in these United States.

 

[jane_tennison]

I have not heard this mentioned, but we all can clearly observe:
The first bomb went off near the FLAGS at the finish area.
What were these flags, and what flag was closest to the bomb? Could it be a possible clue?

Maybe location was chosen on the amount of media attention and size of crowd

 

[Sve]

Double post

 

[neo]

Not even close.
One is a caucasian male.

Incase you did not get FBI memo

"Suspect Two is a caucasian with a white baseball cap on backwards"

http://communities.washingtontimes....ston-two-male-suspects-requiring-identificat/

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I would think that the FBI would have a forensic anthropologist or two who are going over the videos and photographs. These are specialists in knowing about the facial features and characteristics common to the different ethnicities. Knowing this, I would put credence into their listing of the suspects as "white". However, they did not use the term Caucasian. I do not know if the two terms are considered to be the same or not.

And yes, they have the facial recognition software. Which means that none of us should hesitate to send in what we feel may be a legitimate tip. Let them decide if a nose is or is not the same.

I did send a tip in to the FBI earlier today. It was in regard to the Pressure Cooker. And after reading the postings in this thread about the Ralph Lauren golf hat and the Fox back pack, I am glad I did.

My tip to them was that Pressure Cookers are not at all used by the younger generation of cooks today. Unless someone owns one for canning, I doubt that many are used on a very regular basis. But the place where I see them is at my local Goodwill Store or St. Vincent DePaul Society Resale Store. You could sure pick one up cheap there. (New ones are fairly expensive)

Thrift shops are also a place where you see all kinds of brand new baseball hats and golf hats. You very well might run across a variety of backpacks there also.

My suggestion was for them to start checking out thrift shops to see if these two were seen lately purchasing a used pressure cooker. It might possibly be the kind of purchase a clerk would remember.

 

[matou]

Minutes before the bombs blew up in Boston, Jeff Bauman looked into the eyes of the man who tried to kill him.
Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.
Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...n-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html

 

[matou]

Matthew Keys ‏@TheMatthewKeys 6m
Man who lost both legs in Boston Marathon attack says he saw bombing suspect

 

[Moreack]

Sorry, NY Lawyer. I was trying to edit my post. I know the link isn't new. I thought the nose and jaw line look similar.

 

[matou]

“He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me,’” Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...n-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html

 

[jjenny]

I am sorry but the resolution is so poor you can't see how full the suspect's lips are.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

o/t a bit but if anyone is so inclined, say a prayer for peace tomorrow as it's the anniversary of the Murrah Building bombing. On 19 April I think many of us here in Oklahoma hold our breaths, hoping no repeat performance occurs anywhere in these United States.

It's also the anniversary of the fiery end of the Branch Davidians siege, a primary reason McVeigh chose that date for the attack.

I don't really have a point. Just saying.

 

[believe09]

Good afternoon. My name is Richard DesLauriers. I am the special agent in charge of the Boston Division of the FBI.

Since Monday’s bombings, the FBI and our law enforcement partners have been working around the clock and are fully committed to investigating this matter to bring those responsible for justice.

Our collective law enforcement team has pursued thousands leads and tips. As I said two days ago, we are working methodically and with a sense of urgency to identify those responsible for the bombings. Within the last day or so, through that careful process, we initially developed a single person of interest. Not knowing if the individual was acting alone or in concert with others, we obviously worked with extreme purpose to make that determination. The entire force of the federal government, the FBI in Boston and around the world, as well as our partners in the Boston Police, ATF, Massachusetts State Police, and the more than 30 agencies of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, have set about to ensure that all responsible for the bombings will be brought to justice.

More importantly, it was done to ensure the future safety of the city, the commonwealth and the country. Indeed, through that process, the FBI developed a second suspect.

Today, we are enlisting the public’s help to identify the two suspects.
After a very detailed analysis of photo, video, and other evidence, we are releasing photos of the two suspects.

They are identified as Suspect 1 and Suspect 2. They appear to be associated.
Suspect 1 is wearing a black hat
Suspect 2 is wearing a white hat.
Suspect 2 set down a back pack at the site of the second explosion just in front of the Forum Restaurant.
We strongly encourage those who were at the Forum Restaurant who have not contacted us yet to do so.
As you can see from one of the images, Suspects 1 and 2 appear to be walking together through the marathon crowd on Boylston Street in the direction of the finish line. That image was captured as they walked on Boylston in the vicinity of its intersection with Gloucester Street.

View and download higher resolution images
As you can see, the quality of the photos is quite good, but we will continue to work on developing additional images to improve their identification.
Further, on FBI.gov, we have videos of the suspects. The photos and videos are posted for the public and media to use, review and publicize.


For clarity, these images should be the only ones—the only ones—that the public should view to assist us. Other photos should not be deemed credible and unnecessarily divert the public’s attention in the wrong direction and create undue work for vital law enforcement resources.

For more than 100 years, the FBI has relied on the public to be its eyes and ears. With the media’s help, in an instant, these images will be delivered directly into the hands of millions around the world. We know the public will play a critical role in identifying and locating them.
Somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family members of the suspects. Though it may be difficult, the nation is counting on those with information to come forward.
No bit of information, no matter how small or seemingly inconsequential, is too small. Each piece moves us forward towards justice.

It is extremely important to contact us with any information regarding the identities of Suspect 1 and Suspect 2 and their locations.

We considered them to be armed and extremely dangerous. No one should approach them. No one should attempt to apprehend them except law enforcement. Let me reiterate that caution. Do not take any action on your own. If you see these men, contact law enforcement. If you know anything about the bombings or the men pictured here, please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays—that’s 1-800 CALL FBI. Again that’s 1-800 225-5324. All calls will be kept confidential.
We also have established a website for tips that directly relate to the bombing—bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. Again, that website is bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov
The photos can be viewed on our website: FBI.gov.
The images from Monday are indelible and the horror of that day will remain with us forever. This further underscores our obligation to investigate this crime judiciously in order to bring those responsible to justice. The victims and the survivors deserve that much.

As to Monday’s victims, the FBI is committed to ensuring that victims receive the rights they are entitled to and the assistance they need to cope with crime. Treating victims with respect and providing them with assistance benefits victims and helps us build better cases. Our resources include an Office for Victim Assistance at FBI Headquarters and victim specialists nationwide. These highly trained professionals can assist victims and coordinate with other agencies to provide victims with the support, information, and resources necessary to effectively meet their needs. Our victim specialist team continues to work around the clock to bring assistance to the victims of this heinous act.

Identifying and locating those responsible is now our priority. No other details of the investigation will be released at this time because this is our focus now.

Review these photographs and contact us at 1-800-CALL-FBI or bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov immediately.
Thank you.

Just to recap

 

[Kimberlyd125]

o/t a bit but if anyone is so inclined, say a prayer for peace tomorrow as it's the anniversary of the Murrah Building bombing. On 19 April I think many of us here in Oklahoma hold our breaths, hoping no repeat performance occurs anywhere in these United States.

O/T I will for sure say a prayer for peace.
I had the privilege of visiting the museum a couple of years ago while we were there for a softball tournament.
There are things that instantly change your life. My visit there was one of those things.

God bless.