Family Press Conferences

[Sherbie]

I've never seen an LE statement even close to that.

It was said at the presser a couple ones before this one (and/or might've been in the first set of written responses to reporter questions). There is a thread here about it somewhere. I'll be happy to try to locate it for you after I get dinner started.

 

[grandmaj]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110096&highlight=Terri+cooperate

The discussion about Terri's cooperation or lack there of belongs in the thread above.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

"Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue."

Dated 7/23/2010

 

[Chablis]

What? The post I was referring to said that her car was seen on SI that day. I am saying that she had the truck that day. What does money have to do with it? :waitasec:

Why are we even arguing when its common knowledge the vehicle she was driving that day is by water? Is it because I said car? I call every vehicle a car, maybe its just where I am from, but can we please move on? I am very upset that her car is placed in an area that she had no reason to be in, and we have a missing precious boy, I dont care if she was driving a vespa or flying saucer, the cops say thats where she was and its pretty scary considering Kyron hasn't been seen since.

 

[AZlawyer]

LE said she had been, but then she stopped. There's a thread titled to that effect here somewhere.

I've never seen an LE statement even close to that.

I found one thread titled: 2010.07.22 Terri has cooperated with all requests per LE (Staton)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...2010.07.22+Terri+cooperated+requests+(Staton)

I think Sherbie was thinking of this Q&A release from LE:

2. When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

Sheriff's Office: We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.


7. Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

 

[cypress]

Kyrons mother has been in his life forever, she raised him too, and shes not the one failing lie tests and sexting, please lets not cheapen Desirees role in her sons life. She isnt given the benefit of the doubt because she WANTED TO KILL KAINE, say the cops- Shes lying, her car is out by water that day, there are tons of reasons to doubt her.

This is an unfair misrepresentation of what I said and my deductions about this case. I am not cheapening Desiree's role in Kyron's life; however, Terri has been Kyron's primary caregiver for most of his life. Desiree likely saw Kyron six days a month except for special occasions. If DY immediately suspected Terri was responsible for Kyron's disappearance, per Desiree's statements and without ANY evidence at that point in time to back up her instincts, then something prior to that day must have happened to make her believe Terri would be capable of harming a child. It is difficult for me to understand how Desiree could allow Terri to raise her child if she believed, without any evidence at that time, that Terri could be capable of something like this.

Also, Terri's car wasn't seen on Suavie Island that day, and if it was, then Kaine has some explaining to do because he was driving it.

 

[BeanE]

I think Sherbie was thinking of this Q&A release from LE:

2. When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

Sheriff's Office: We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.


7. Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

I don't think so because neither of those statements say Terri had been cooperating and then stopped, which is what was contended.

 

[cypress]

Why are we even arguing when its common knowledge the vehicle she was driving that day is by water? Is it because I said car? I call every vehicle a car, maybe its just where I am from, but can we please move on? I am very upset that her car is placed in an area that she had no reason to be in, and we have a missing precious boy, I dont care if she was driving a vespa or flying saucer, the cops say thats where she was and its pretty scary considering Kyron hasn't been seen since.

Terri wasn't seen driving around Suavie Island that day. Her cell phone pinged from a tower there, per "reliable sources," but the pings are an approximation. Terri readily admits she was driving around that morning, trying to soothe baby K's earache. It's possible she pinged off that tower as she was driving around.

Also, Suavie Island isn't far away from the school or where the Hormans live, so I don't necessarily view the ping as a smoking gun, especially in light of Terri admitting she was driving around rather aimlessly that day. It's not as if pings place her in Canada all while she claims she was in Portland.

 

[Emeralgem]

Why are we even arguing when its common knowledge the vehicle she was driving that day is by water? Is it because I said car? I call every vehicle a car, maybe its just where I am from, but can we please move on? I am very upset that her car is placed in an area that she had no reason to be in, and we have a missing precious boy, I dont care if she was driving a vespa or flying saucer, the cops say thats where she was and its pretty scary considering Kyron hasn't been seen since.

Chablis, I missed something somewhere, which is not unusual for me but how do we know her car was by the water? Is this due to pings or what?

I've thought for sometime now she left her phone in a certain area on purpose just to mislead LE..JMO

 

[Sherbie]

I think Sherbie was thinking of this Q&A release from LE:

2. When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

Sheriff's Office: We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.


7. Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

Yes, thank you! That's exactly what I was thinking of! :thumb:

 

[Chablis]

This is an unfair misrepresentation of what I said and my deductions about this case. I am not cheapening Desiree's role in Kyron's life; however, Terri has been Kyron's primary caregiver for most of his life. Desiree likely saw Kyron six days a month except for special occasions. If DY immediately suspected Terri was responsible for Kyron's disappearance, per Desiree's statements and without ANY evidence at that point in time to back up her instincts, then something prior to that day must have happened to make her believe Terri would be capable of harming a child. It is difficult for me to understand how Desiree could allow Terri to raise her child if she believed, without any evidence at that time, that Terri could be capable of something like this.

Also, Terri's car wasn't seen on Suavie Island that day, and if it was, then Kaine has some explaining to do because he was driving it.

Ok, so are you saying that something like GPS puts her at the Island?

And it does not matter how much she saw her son, shes his mother, period.

And I am pretty sure Desiree didn't start suspecting Terri could be involved unril she learned of her wanting to KILL Kaine, and now her son is missing? I think it all started to change after that meeting with the LE didn't it?

 

[Chablis]

Chablis, I missed something somewhere, which is not unusual for me but how do we know her car was by the water? Is this due to pings or what?

I've thought for sometime now she left her phone in a certain area on purpose just to mislead LE..JMO

Yeah, I dont know, I guess I assumed she had to have something to drive to get her phone out in that area? If its pings, it doesnt matter if she drove or not, her phone, or WHATEVER is pinging at an Island, I mean I dont know, I just Assumed.

 

[wvjules]

Ok, so are you saying that something like GPS puts her at the Island?

And it does not matter how much she saw her son, shes his mother, period.

And I am pretty sure Desiree didn't start suspecting Terri could be involved unril she learned of her wanting to KILL Kaine, and now her son is missing? I think it all started to change after that meeting with the LE didn't it?

Actually, DY has stated that she suspected TH from the very first phone call.

Moving on as per Grandmaj's post....

 

[Chablis]

Terri wasn't seen driving around Suavie Island that day. Her cell phone pinged from a tower there, per "reliable sources," but the pings are an approximation. Terri readily admits she was driving around that morning, trying to soothe baby K's earache. It's possible she pinged off that tower as she was driving around.

Also, Suavie Island isn't far away from the school or where the Hormans live, so I don't necessarily view the ping as a smoking gun, especially in light of Terri admitting she was driving around rather aimlessly that day. It's not as if pings place her in Canada all while she claims she was in Portland.

Gotcha, reminds me of the pings the cops had tracing Casey Anthony after her child went missing.

 

[grandmaj]

I'm going to reopen the thread. Attack the post not each other. Do not bait other posters into an argument.

 

[Aedrys]

This is an unfair misrepresentation of what I said and my deductions about this case. I am not cheapening Desiree's role in Kyron's life; however, Terri has been Kyron's primary caregiver for most of his life. Desiree likely saw Kyron six days a month except for special occasions. If DY immediately suspected Terri was responsible for Kyron's disappearance, per Desiree's statements and without ANY evidence at that point in time to back up her instincts, then something prior to that day must have happened to make her believe Terri would be capable of harming a child. It is difficult for me to understand how Desiree could allow Terri to raise her child if she believed, without any evidence at that time, that Terri could be capable of something like this.

Also, Terri's car wasn't seen on Suavie Island that day, and if it was, then Kaine has some explaining to do because he was driving it.

Situations where you have parents remarrying and bringing in stepparents are very sticky situations. It's not as easy as Desiree just taking Kyron from Kaine and that's that. She'd have to do it legally, through lawyers, especially if Kaine didn't agree with her. Things would get nasty, and Kyron would suffer in the end because of these groups of parents arguing with each other over who knows what's best for him. Desiree obviously thought since he had been with Kaine for so long while she got treatment that is was best to leave him there rather than rock the boat with accusations that probably couldn't have been backed up with much proof. Or even so, would Kaine just believe Desiree about Terri? Probably not.

I'm tired of seeing people blame Desiree over and over again, like if she just had snatched him away from Kaine he wouldn't have gone missing. If she had done that, there would have been legal repercussions, court battles, and nastiness that is certainly not good for a child to go through. Desiree may have had suspicions, but that is not good enough to take a child out of the home in situations like this. And I doubt she really thought Terri would actually kill Kyron or make him disappear. I don't know why people assume she should have known that too.

This press conference reinforced to me how sad and desperate this situation is, but continuing to blame KH and DY for not doing enough to protect Kyron is not going to bring Kyron home. And it's not fair to them either.

 

[Kat010]

Maybe he's been reading here on WS alot? The other day there was post after post telling people (such as Terri's friends) that they shouldn't get involved or let LE search their homes or look at their computers.

I'm sorry and I don't want to offend anyone, but I saw many comments like that and my opinion is that a child's life takes precedence over the right to privacy. :twocents:

But I can fully understand why Kaine is mad about that! :furious:

I have a different perspective. What I read included:

a) people discussing allegations from those involved in the case that DDS was telling people not to cooperate (in this game of telephone and "unknown says this because hereIamtalking, who goes to the same dry cleaner as someone else's pal" it's hard to keep straight who actually said what to whom and on what they based that, whew)

and

b)I also saw a well-reasoned, for the most part, very good discussion and debate of our constitutional rights, including links to extremely good videos. I valued that debate and thought it not only added perspective to this case, but also added educational value.

Honestly, even though I'm fairly new here as far as posting, I don't recall lots of people posting telling others not to give information or allow searches in an ongoing investigation. Caveat: I may be wrong in that (but I don't reckon I am!).

As for me, I skipped the presser today. I'm fighting a sinus yuck, am about to go pick up antibiotics, and I just slept. Truthfully, I didn't want to sit through yet another episode of dirty laundry. I'm just plain wore out on all that stuff.

Color me feverish, peckish, and wanting a popsicle.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I think Sherbie was thinking of this Q&A release from LE:

2. When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

Sheriff's Office: We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.


7. Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

I don't think so because neither of those statements say Terri had been cooperating and then stopped, which is what was contended.

Respectfully, BeanE, that is just your interpretation of what the police said - your opinion and not shared by everyone, which I'm sure you know because this has come up on nearly every thread.

We're dealing with verbal semantics of what is being said off-the-cuff during a press conference. But I think the main point the policeman was trying to make was that Terri was not cooperating in every aspect of the search for Kyron, which is a little shocking because she is his step-mother.

I sensed again today that Kaine and Desiree are shocked by that too, since they described her as "cold" about the whole thing, and Kaine admitted to "pleading" with her to help with the investigation. That sounds like non-cooperation to me. They should know if she is cooperating or not.

I think it's unclear whether she cooperated and stopped, or she held things back from the beginning (such as the confusion over the Dr.'s appointment or her exact whereabouts). None of us can prove what she did or didn't do, so there are no absolutes beyond what the police said about cooperating on some things and not other things.

After a certain point - the outing of the sext-messages and the restraining order - she wasn't going to cooperate anymore because she felt the heat. JMO

 

[Patty G]

ThoughtFox, I deleted that post as I realized the truck was discussed, would you kindly delete your post since my original is gone. Thanks.

 

[lorann]

I am glad to hear the parents plead with anyone who ever had contact to go to LE - even if they don't think it is important. If you go to LE and tell them anything you know, any contact at all, and cooperate with them, chances are your name would not come out to the press. If you know something important, there is a chance LE will find you eventually. I would never relish the idea of being dragged into this kind of case, but would in a heartbeat if I knew anything - anything at all. If DD had done this, and knew nothing, we wouldn't know about her, she made herself look guilty in my eyes. JMHO

 

[Sherbie]

I think Sherbie was thinking of this Q&A release from LE:

2. When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

Sheriff's Office: We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.


7. Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

Sheriff's Office: During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

Thanks again. Just wanted to say that I finally found the link to the thread we had here about the above and wanted to add it for clarity's sake, in case anyone was interested in reading:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110096"]07/23/10 Terri not completely cooperative -- per LE - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


If I worded my original post incorrectly and caused any confusion, I sincerely apologize to everyone.