Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015

[Sherlockknows]

People do not need licenses to operate a boat IN NYS or NJ, they should implement it as a requirement but it is not. However a boat owner needs registration insurance and everything else.

Yes this Thread is about James Burke but at times other thoughts arise and we do go in other directions if something else comes up. As on all the boards. Everyone always gets back to the main subject of James Burke.

I will say again in my opinion, I don't think Burke is responsible for all the murders but he is certainly capable of murder and I would not be surprised if he did murder one of these girls. He may be doing time for assault, but if you are capable of assault, assault could very well lead to murder.

My final word on Burke. Maybe Gilbert, Maybe Jugo, to protect blackmailing from escorts or pimps. It would be motive for violent sex mad men. But he's not a loner. His voice is well known and if it was him the families who received the calls would be able to say.

The voice was not Boston or New York. I would guess MidAtlantic. Maybe a professional like PH, but probably himself and Brewer are just users. I think you are right, the people involved could have killed one, maybe two, but are not the anti social types or family first types. They are partiers, drinkers, womanisers. Hard to find the time to do both.

This person knew the tides though. They knew if they dumped two suitcases they would go out before they came in. Thus them being on a bridge the day before would be irrelevant. They knew the suitcase wouldn't be showing up. They knew there wouldn't be people around, they also knew they could keep going back. They wouldn't be classified as a stranger always around the area no one knew.

There is always the chance the person brought parts from the beach to Mannorville to be closer to them. Maybe they have a weekend place there where they walk and live in the city. They pick up the girls there. They did pay $900 to one girl so they have money. If it was them. And another girl was offered $1,500. She would have demanded to view it, so this guy has the readies. There was a suggestion this person might know what a burner was. If so they either understand the law, or are on the wrong side of it or have been in a drug way. I also think the Asians are key and Cherries and Peeches. The Asian male may have been hired from an escort page under a woman's name. Thus he gets there and the man goes mad smashing his face in. The Asian woman also has damage to her bones. Maybe he is an ex Vet and doesn't like Asians. Who knows....


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[DQN]

Maybe he is an ex Vet and doesn't like Asians. Who knows.... No I say he was expecting a woman and when he found out he was kissing and a man and a man just went down on him, he beat him! a homophobic type. Whether it was a man or a woman he was probably going to kill them anyway, it may be moot point.

 

[Sherlockknows]

Maybe he is an ex Vet and doesn't like Asians. Who knows.... No I say he was expecting a woman and when he found out he was kissing and a man and a man just went down on him, he beat him! a homophobic type. Whether it was a man or a woman he was probably going to kill them anyway, it may be moot point.

Well this is what I believe. If you are a man spotting a CD or cross dresser is not hard. I think the minute he set eyes on him he got battered to death. He booked a woman. I just have a feeling these people were transported. Remember the Cruz guy who got done, one of the women, Megan or Mellisa was killed by the SK. He was a pimp. Imagine he's transporting women when did he get done. 2013. No murders after. The killer might have been using the pimps as cover....


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[Sherlockknows]

There is one thing on Burke though.

Leanne in her press statement said Burke pulled an Asian lady to the ground by her hair at the first party she was at. The Asian male and Female had bone bruising. Aggressive so....


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[Vapor]

Someone at these parties could have purposely got the crossdresser "AM" for the sole purpose of messing with a fellow partygoer who was to drunk to tell the difference. Unfortunately they could tell and the second they did, they caved the poor guys head in. These oak beach partys seem wild enough for something like that to happen, so thats another possibility assuming the AM was summoned to Oak beach and murdered there.

 

[DQN]

These guys start drinking they don;t know thier asses from a hole in the wall. The more they drink the better he looked to them as a woman, if he was alone with someone he may not initially had known it was a man after a couple drinks and whatever drugs they were doing...

 

[Barbie619]

People do not need licenses to operate a boat IN NYS or NJ, they should implement it as a requirement but it is not. However a boat owner needs registration insurance and everything else.

Yes this Thread is about James Burke but at times other thoughts arise and we do go in other directions if something else comes up. As on all the boards. Everyone always gets back to the main subject of James Burke.

I will say again in my opinion, I don't think Burke is responsible for all the murders but he is certainly capable of murder and I would not be surprised if he did murder one of these girls. He may be doing time for assault, but if you are capable of assault, assault could very well lead to murder.

I used the wrong term, certification is necessary to operate a boat/yacht. Taking certain classes are required. But yes making it licensing should be a requirement. As far as staying on topic, I agree sometimes things go off topic which is normal in the course of LISK but it was going way off the rails and staying there IMO. I don't know if Burke is involved in any of the murder's, but he pulled the plug on solving it due to his own selfish criminal acts and the coverups. None of us know who is responsible.

 

[hawkshaw]

Don't be distracted by those that will tell you the BURKE thread and LISK threat are different issues. That is not to day Burke is LISK. But he sure is a lot closer to the case any one of us posting on this Board - with the exception of LISK.

 

[DQN]

You do not need a certification OR you are NOT required to even take a safety class when you buy and operate a boat in NY on the lake or in the Oceans. You are only required to register it with the state.

 

[karenliny]

Not from the 90's but Janice Fullam disappeared in high school and she was in Burke's class at Smithtown. I also found that Lowrita lived right down the road from the Budget Inn that Melissa's phone either pinged at or near. Lowrita went to Amityville High School, and since she's involved in prostitution I wonder if there is any connection between Robert Blake and Lowrita. Blake was arrested at the other Massapequa hotel, the best western, and he has relatives in Amityville. It's something worth looking into.

I believe Janice Fullam was a student at Smithtown West High School, and Burke lived within the area that feeds into Smithtown East High School. These were two very large high schools on opposite ends of a sizable town. While it is possible they were acquainted, they were not classmates and did not attend the same school.

 

[kanzz]

Don't be distracted by those that will tell you the BURKE thread and LISK threat are different issues. That is not to day Burke is LISK. But he sure is a lot closer to the case any one of us posting on this Board - with the exception of LISK.

Thank You for the clarification, hawkshaw. Makes sense to me. I was beginning to get a bit confused when I saw those recent posts. After all, this thread is filed under "TKS > Long Island Serial Killer".

 

[PictureSnatcher]

Thanks for the clarification. You could be right, Janice went to West but I can't find Burke's though East was mentioned in Pius trial

 

[hawkshaw]

Let me tell you how lucky this creep is. When I read the two stories in New York Magazine, Jesse Kornbluth (Pius) I saw no mention of Jimmy Burke. I called the author and told him he never mentioned the name of Burke in either article. He berated me and said I must be blind. I told him to read his own articles again and then tell me where Burke's name is. He was stunned. He knew Burke well enough to call him a punk, but he never mentions him in the article.

 

[Sherlockknows]

Let me tell you how lucky this creep is. When I read the two stories in New York Magazine, Jesse Kornbluth (Pius) I saw no mention of Jimmy Burke. I called the author and told him he never mentioned the name of Burke in either article. He berated me and said I must be blind. I told him to read his own articles again and then tell me where Burke's name is. He was stunned. He knew Burke well enough to call him a punk, but he never mentions him in the article.

A quick question. Would it be possible to get Audio of JB or the Burlap and his co worker who also committed suicide and check it against what Melissa's sister heard on the phone? Also did these two go to parties with Brewer Burke or Hackett?


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[Sherlockknows]

Very interesting. 4 bodies in Mannorville before 2003. Solved? http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/nyregion/4-bodies-leave-hamlet-on-edge.html?_r=0


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[DQN]

I have no words for these endless murders in Long Island! they need to put cameras up every where, silently, it will be well worth it!

 

[maddalena1]

I have no words for these endless murders in Long Island! they need to put cameras up every where, silently, it will be well worth it!

Bushnell makes a great wireless game cam.

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[GINK]

Yikes.... my angel, Ill tell later if true

 

[dexter75]

You do not need a certification OR you are NOT required to even take a safety class when you buy and operate a boat in NY on the lake or in the Oceans. You are only required to register it with the state.

Wow
I'm surprised to read this.
Having been raised in the Irish Hills with family and friends who have cottages at Devils, Round, and Sand Lake... I understand generation after generation of those who grew up on the lake having the " know how " to operate the boats & toys that come with the lifestyle.



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[dexter75]

Wow
I'm surprised to read this.
Having been raised in the Irish Hills with family and friends who have cottages at Devils, Round, and Sand Lake... I understand generation after generation of those who grew up on the lake having the " know how " to operate the boats & toys that come with the lifestyle.



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Adding
I can't imagine all of our locals NOT taking a boaters safety coarse at least!
And it's a relatively small area out here.

Are there many accidents on the waters there?

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