GUILTY FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #4
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LLC = license to steal for those so inclined. JMO.
In my state (not Florida), one has to have an Operating Agreement that spells out the ownership structure (peoplewise) of the business to form an LLC. You don't have to submit a copy of the OA in order to file for LLC status, but you do have to have an OA to open a checking account in the name of the LLC.
The Registered Agent doesn't have to be a member of the LLC. It can be an attorney, for instance. Not all of the owner's names have to be listed on the LLC filing either- only one Officer.
Crooks can and will enter into an LLC with someone to get their hands on LLC funds, and the OA can actually help a crook avoid punishment because disagreements between "business partners" are civil cases, not criminal.
That means that in my state, I can enter into a LLC with someone, open an LLC checking account with both our names on it, and, if the other person takes all the money without my knowledge or consent, my only recourse is filing a civil lawsuit.
I have been told by LE that white collar crime is a very difficult area for them to prosecute. So very often, their hands are tied and it can months or years to build a case against someone who steals this way regularly.
ETA: I hope and pray Abraham is alive.
In my state (not Florida), one has to have an Operating Agreement that spells out the ownership structure (peoplewise) of the business to form an LLC. You don't have to submit a copy of the OA in order to file for LLC status, but you do have to have an OA to open a checking account in the name of the LLC.
The Registered Agent doesn't have to be a member of the LLC. It can be an attorney, for instance. Not all of the owner's names have to be listed on the LLC filing either- only one Officer.
Crooks can and will enter into an LLC with someone to get their hands on LLC funds, and the OA can actually help a crook avoid punishment because disagreements between "business partners" are civil cases, not criminal.
That means that in my state, I can enter into a LLC with someone, open an LLC checking account with both our names on it, and, if the other person takes all the money without my knowledge or consent, my only recourse is filing a civil lawsuit.
I have been told by LE that white collar crime is a very difficult area for them to prosecute. So very often, their hands are tied and it can months or years to build a case against someone who steals this way regularly.
ETA: I hope and pray Abraham is alive.
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I don't know who the friend "Trish" is. DM's mother is a Patricia, and her Facebook page has her as Tricia.
Yes, DM and JM are divorced now.
I don't know who the friend "Trish" is. DM's mother is a Patricia, and her Facebook page has her as Tricia.
Yes, DM and JM are divorced now.
Sorry ... must have copied the link that I was reading the comments on. It is the same article as earlier, just updated.
Hope this link works ....
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jan/13/131251/sheriff-woman-moved-1-million-missing-lottery-winn/
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...-release-more-information.html/comment-page-1
Nightline report on missing lottery winner prompts Polk sheriff to release more information
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ABCs Nightline has an upcoming story on missing millionaire-Lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare of Lakeland.
The segment by reporter Jeffrey Kofman was scheduled to air at 11:35 p.m. Thursday, but its likely to be delayed for more coverage of the devastating Haiti earthquake. Nightline airs at 11:35 p.m. on WFTV-Channel 9.
Nightline report on missing lottery winner prompts Polk sheriff to release more information
*snip*
ABCs Nightline has an upcoming story on missing millionaire-Lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare of Lakeland.
The segment by reporter Jeffrey Kofman was scheduled to air at 11:35 p.m. Thursday, but its likely to be delayed for more coverage of the devastating Haiti earthquake. Nightline airs at 11:35 p.m. on WFTV-Channel 9.
Nothing really new in here but ....
http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.fl/3ad7b9bb-www.weartv.com.shtml
Sheriff: Woman took money from lottery winner
January 13, 2010 16:48 EST
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Moore told detectives she had befriended Shakespeare and gave him financial advice. She says she doesn't know his whereabouts.
Judd says that among other things, Moore transferred more than $1 million from Shakespeare's bank account into one of her own, telling detectives later that the money was a gift.
http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.fl/3ad7b9bb-www.weartv.com.shtml
Sheriff: Woman took money from lottery winner
January 13, 2010 16:48 EST
*snip*
Moore told detectives she had befriended Shakespeare and gave him financial advice. She says she doesn't know his whereabouts.
Judd says that among other things, Moore transferred more than $1 million from Shakespeare's bank account into one of her own, telling detectives later that the money was a gift.
wanttohelp
http://thewaronwomen.org
this may be stated on the next page, but she recieved access to the account by replacing the plantiff in another case, and as I pointed out i didnt understand why that case had been reopened because it had appeared settled to me.
wanttohelp
http://thewaronwomen.org
LB where are you? ...Cholz? ....Imunuru?.... mermaid?....boyzmum?
wow this thread really did clear out.
wow this thread really did clear out.
On 10/26/09, there was an Amended Order Allowing Substitution of the Parties.
The Order is for Dee Dee Moore to be substituted as the Plaintiff in place of VALENTI CAMPBELL TROHN TAMAYO & ARRANDA for the Judgement for $21,327.06 plus 11% interest per annum found in Book 7768, Page 1654 on. That is a far cry from the million dollars that they are saying she transferred from his account to hers.
http://tinyurl.com/y85u5ju
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=7143681&file_num=2008200888&doc_status=V
If seems to me they might be talking about another transaction.
The Order is for Dee Dee Moore to be substituted as the Plaintiff in place of VALENTI CAMPBELL TROHN TAMAYO & ARRANDA for the Judgement for $21,327.06 plus 11% interest per annum found in Book 7768, Page 1654 on. That is a far cry from the million dollars that they are saying she transferred from his account to hers.
http://tinyurl.com/y85u5ju
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=7143681&file_num=2008200888&doc_status=V
If seems to me they might be talking about another transaction.
I'm still here. Just working on a few things, but still keeping up.
Yes.
http://www.wesh.com/news/22008732/detail.html
The Lakeland pilot has been missing for almost two years. He has not been found. An arrest was made.
http://www.co.oswego.ny.us/sheriff/allen.html
Heidi Allen was never found. But a man received 25 to life.
Thank you Susan. Then it shouldn't be too long before people reap what they sow. It amazes me how people think they can treat people the way they do and get away with it. No one is above that. In my opinion it will always come back to haunt you.
wanttohelp
http://thewaronwomen.org
oh, I'm sorry. Your assuming she was honest and took the amount of the judgement. I was under the impression
1-that case had been settled so whatever she was taking she was stealing.
2-it granted access to the account AND a safety deposit box that for all we know had money or info to another account which perhaps is why she wanted this judgement.
all the above and the fact it was stated the transaction was AFTER April, which this was.
wanttohelp
http://thewaronwomen.org
did you get my info on that transaction with Smith/ Lewis. Lots of info there just too much for me to do all the work expanding on it. IMO investigating more on that and its expansion could reveal alot.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/113-missing-lottery-winner-abraham-shakespeare
Missing lotto winner, missing money
Updated: Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 9:00 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 9:00 PM EST
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According to investigators, Moore assisted Shakespeare with opening a limited liability: Abraham Shakespeare, LLC, and then gave herself complete signing authority.
With that authority, she gave herself $1,000,000, detectives said. They say Moore told them Shakespeare was aware of this, and that he gave this money to her as a gift. Detectives say she has used the money to purchase a Hummer, a Corvette, a truck, and went on lavish vacations.
"It's nice to buy a new Corvette, a Hummer, a new truck," Judd said. "It's nice to take vacations, to account for some of the money that she spent."
The sheriff's office says Moore now has an attorney, and is no longer talking to them.
When contacted by FOX 13 to respond to these allegations, a representative for Moore said they were not willing to do interviews at this time.
Missing lotto winner, missing money
Updated: Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 9:00 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 9:00 PM EST
*snip*
According to investigators, Moore assisted Shakespeare with opening a limited liability: Abraham Shakespeare, LLC, and then gave herself complete signing authority.
With that authority, she gave herself $1,000,000, detectives said. They say Moore told them Shakespeare was aware of this, and that he gave this money to her as a gift. Detectives say she has used the money to purchase a Hummer, a Corvette, a truck, and went on lavish vacations.
"It's nice to buy a new Corvette, a Hummer, a new truck," Judd said. "It's nice to take vacations, to account for some of the money that she spent."
The sheriff's office says Moore now has an attorney, and is no longer talking to them.
When contacted by FOX 13 to respond to these allegations, a representative for Moore said they were not willing to do interviews at this time.
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Excerpts from person using "DMoore" screen name who came to Websleuths in December 2009 stating she was Dee Dee Moore. I posted the Websleuths link where the full postings can be found.
I hope this helps
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2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Mr. Shakespeare only received 12 million after taxes and had already loaned and gave out over 11 million dollars by the time I met him. He was tired of the daily phone calls and was too embarrassed to let everyone know all his money was almost gone. The rest of his money was tied up in assets that he wanted to sell. He even went and applied for a loan at Community Bank and was turned down because he did not have a job." - "He sold his bad debts to me which gives me every right to collect." - "I was writing a book on this man and I only wanted to help him." [12/05/09 04:30 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Like I said before, I knew Mr. Shakespeare he had taken a loan out on his house. He owed house payments of $6,988.00 per month and was behind on them. I was not even interested in buying his house at first. He kept asking me because he wanted to just get away from here." - "He had a deacon of a church present while signing the documents. He also appointed a power of attorney on his behalf while he was gone." - "I also knew he would have a warrant out for his arrest soon. He was in contempt of child support court." [12/05/09 at 08:58 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Eddie Dixon that made the comment about me in the paper. Mr. Dixon owed Mr. Shakespeare money and they would argue about it. I got tired of them bickering back and forth so I helped Eddie out by purchasing his car to end the disagreement between them." [12/05/09 09:12 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Abraham made it to the 8th grade and he could print his whole name. He did not sign with a X." - "Everything I did he ask me to do. I have 11 million dollars worth of checks he wrote out before I ever met the man. I turned a copy of them all over to the Sheriff's Department. The biggest thing that keeps this going is that Abraham left on his own free will, but the people that owed him money now owe me, because I bought the bad debt." [12/06/09 06:11 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "They ask about Gregory Massey because he use to help Abraham out with his business. He was the one with Franklin Jackson in the newspaper when he first started his loan business. I talk with Greg Massey and he has no idea where he would go. I'm willing to offer 10,000.00 for someone to take him to the nearst sheriffs department for me." - "Michael World - moved shortly after Abraham did. He owned a clothing store in town and owed Mr. Shakespeare 100,000.00. He would have not hurt him but could be helping him hide." - "Eddie Dixon, Freddy West, Clearance West, Barbara and Franklin Jackson, Jimand Zaid" [12/06/09 08:15 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Abraham was man that had a ruff life. He was raised by his dad until he was 10 years old. He was doing somethings illegal when I met him. I told him I could not be involed unless it was done correctly. Like some loans were what you call loan sharking. They were at 20% which is illegal and I pointed that out. Some of his loans I could not even buy because they were written up illegally. Some people refuse to pay him because they knew he loaned to some drug runners and they held that over his head." [12/06/09 09:45 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Barbara Jackson lied. She and her husband got a 120,000.00 loan from Mr. Shakespeare that i have a copy of the note and the check." [12/06/09 09:39 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=7
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Since you want to bring up his mom. Abraham only gave his mom 10,000 he gave some of his friends 1 million dollars. He gave his real sister 10,000 but gave three women that are not even related to him 250,000. He gave his cousin 40,000." [12/06/09 09:59 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=7
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "If you could link the people of interest that know Abraham and what places they own you could help find where he his staying." [12/09/09 06:54 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "the day I met my Direct TV guy years later after going to court. He laughed at me thinking it was funny how three Mexicans can steal a car and get away with it. His brother was one of those Mexicans. I was never convicted of insurance fraud and the charges were dropped. I only got charged with the check I wrote out that bounced because of my money being stolen. All three Mexicans had different stories. Thats how I can be a notary." - "I got the Mexicans number that laughed at me just in case I ever need him. He said, I could write a book on that day, jokingly, but it was one I really never wanted to remember again in my life." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I stayed in my house feeling sorry for myself for about two months then realized I needed to put it behind me. I went back to work and rebuilt what I had. I got so busy again into work and trying to help everyone I got slowed down again. I was in the car accident that put me in a wheel chair. That was me on Hwy 33 in my other Hummer. I guess they just got my age wrong. The other driver was at fault and hit me head on. The boy had no insurance and after finding out his mom and dad was separated and did not have a lot of money. I never tried to sue them." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "My right femur bone was crushed and they tried to sign me up for complete disability. Something I refused to do.I was not going to live off the system and other people when I was able to contribute myself. I learned to scuba dive and rebuild my muscle tone. I had started my company and I stayed on the phones all the time. For three years (24 hours a day) I was on the phones building my company until I let others start running it for me. Now its been running without me for the last two years. In that time I trained people to provide CPR, ACLS, and PALS to save peoples lives. I traveled and started pilot training. I helped people through rehab and even took in the homeless three times. I had a full life with plenty of money before Abraham Shakespeare." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I made one mistake, lying for Mr. Shakespeare so he could have his old life back, but that is all. He had a lot of others things going on all at the same time. His attorney had dropped him for non-payment on the Michael Ford case that was still up for Appeal and did not close until May. He had another girl he had choked threatening a lawsuit. His best friend would not sign papers that he owed him. The one that hurt him the most was that his own brother threatened to kill him. He wanted money from Abraham but he refused to give him anymore. The only person getting hurt by all of this is Mrs. Walker. Abrahams mom who has come over and prayed for me twice since all this started. I use to take her to Busch Gardens and even the Holy Land to pray." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "You cant blame me for finding him interesting. Like the public official he paid off to get his drivers license. He thought that stuff was funny and wanted it in the book. He never had a drivers license until he paid a public official for one. He could not pass the driving test. Thats why he got so many tickets after getting his license." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I have personally hired my own private detective and offered 10,000.00 of my own money rewarded to the people I think can find him." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "He was not paying child support on that child. He went to jail when he won the lottery for refusing to pay $36.00 to his back child support. The mother of the child had to take him to court and fight for that money. That is all public record. The child in child support court now is another baby he had with different girl after winning the lottery." [12/09/09 02:30 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I did not serve a years probation. Check again. Once I paid the charges the probation was dropped. Trust me I wanted to go all the way through the court system. My lawyer at the time talked me out of it. He said, they would get me on the check charge anyways and that way this would be over with quickly. I could have the charges removed from my record later. I'm 37 years old and have never got charged with anything else. I don't do drugs of any kind and I believe in the legal system. I would have been glad to pay the IRS but I did not owe them. They put a lien on my assets until the audit was done that cleared me." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I never meant to put Abraham in a negative light. I'm just telling the truth and how he would tell it himself. He has a lot of good about him. He meant well but just has the wrong kind of friends. The kind of things he wants in my book are not ones his mother agrees with being put in there. He does buy everything from the dollar store. He never spends anything on himself. He went to New York and bought 5 of his women back a purse. He never minded the little loans. It's the big ones that people kept calling him about." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I only agreed to write the book if Abraham would give his portion of the book proceeds to his mom. I wanted her to retire and remodel her kitchen. In Abraham defense he was going to buy her a house at first but she did not want to move. Since she did not want the house he said you got to wait until the next go around. She would have loved her house remodeled. She should have retired two years ago." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - " I only have two loans I collect from; I give them right back out to her. I pay someone 3 times a week to carry her back in forth to work and to the doctors. I have the proof of the checks going into my account and being written right back out." - "I talked about giving back and keeping the kids off the streets. I told him I was opening up a paint ball field to help give back to my community." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "He did not drive the truck he was a ride along. He helped unload." [12/10/09 01:35 PM] [http ://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4546065#post4546065]
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I told Mrs. Green I was offering a 10,000 reward. Call her and ask why it was not posted." [12/10/09 01:42 PM] [http ://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4546065#post4546065]
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "The 10,000.00 I have already put it aside. I let the people know that can actual find him. Since the newspaper did not post it. You can receive it but youre never going to find him when all you have is me to look at." - "If you are interested in looking up some people that interest me you can email me at Dmoore10@aol.com. I will email you conformation that the 10,000 is set aside. Your information leads to his where about it's yours." [12/10/09 01:42 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=13
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I started new company to separate it from mine. I wanted to make sure that taxes were paid correctly on loans that did pay. You have to pay taxes on the profit and interest received from the loans. I applied for ein number so that everything was done correctly. I was taking the loan money and writing it back out to the person that takes Abrahams mom back in forth to work and to the doctors." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I met Abraham he had a house loan that was behind so I paid it for him until he could sell some assets. The lady in the bank is my witness a long with one of his friends that was with him He kept begging me to buy his house, I did not want it. He kept going down in price for me. He told people he sold me the house. Not just his friends but his neighbors. One is a country music singer, septic man, and more." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I cant mention names so Im just going to say amounts The mortgage for 198,000 he has seen two payments from them in two years. The house might be worth $150,000 now. Abraham would go by again and again they would not answer. He threatened foreclosure they sent him a check that bounced. He wanted to kick him out but was still going through the Michael Ford case and he was one of his main witnesses on the case. He had worked with Mr. Shakespeare. I threatened foreclosure and couldnt. I felt bad for them. They are hard workers. So I decided to work with them and help them out. Thats got me nowhere. In 8 months I have gotten one payment." [[12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Lake Parker house Edom lives in. Abraham went and talked to him before he left. Cedric knew why his cousin was leaving. I loaned Cedric some money to buy a car which he thought I was taking back on Nov 9, 2009. I had gone and pick up the car to prevent daily storage charges on towing. Cedric got upset with me when I picked up the car. Next thing I know Abraham was reported missing. He kept calling me saying he was not the one that reported him missing. I told him if he was thats filing a false police report and he can be charged with all these man hours. He told me the pastors the one that reported it but the police still say Cedric is the one that reported it.Then he called and said he was sorry. That did not work so he had the pastor of the church ask me to forgive him." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I was there the day Abraham went and talked with him. Abraham was riding in my hummer. I did not hear everything Abraham told him but enough to know he understood what was going on and he would not be back for awhile. Abraham said, he even went over there again by himself later on that week. Cedric called the newspaper but they did not print all of his comments. I think they are waiting to check out the validity of his comments. I not going to comment on everything that he told me." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "The house on Pearl Street is another mess. First off the title is not clear. Its going to take a couple of court dates to fix that mess. The biggest thing is that Abraham wants Cedric Lewis sued. Not for money just so that he can never do this to anyone else again. He sold him a house for $123,000. No house in that whole neighbor has ever sold for more than $36,000. Its not in a very good neighborhood. After I researched it even more I got someone willing to testify in Abrahams behalf against Cedric Lewis." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Several houses Abraham bought for people were never filed. They went out and got loans with other companies. When Abraham finally filed papers he was considered the second mortgage holder. Those houses are now in foreclosure with the first loan holders. So they will be no money awarded on those houses." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Cedric had seen Abraham. You only see what they let you see in the paper." [12/11/09 12:33 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=17
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I can't post here anymore. I just found out why one of you are so negative toward me. You are related to one of the people Abraham loaned very large amounts of money to. You want me discredited so you don't have to pay anything. I already told them to let you know you can keep the money if you have to steal it. That was to retire Mrs. Shakespeare, so I hope you enjoy it. It's not worth my life and stop having people call in with all your bogus calls. It's a waste of their time and mine to." [12/11/09 01:55 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=17
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ACR
I hope this helps
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2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Mr. Shakespeare only received 12 million after taxes and had already loaned and gave out over 11 million dollars by the time I met him. He was tired of the daily phone calls and was too embarrassed to let everyone know all his money was almost gone. The rest of his money was tied up in assets that he wanted to sell. He even went and applied for a loan at Community Bank and was turned down because he did not have a job." - "He sold his bad debts to me which gives me every right to collect." - "I was writing a book on this man and I only wanted to help him." [12/05/09 04:30 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Like I said before, I knew Mr. Shakespeare he had taken a loan out on his house. He owed house payments of $6,988.00 per month and was behind on them. I was not even interested in buying his house at first. He kept asking me because he wanted to just get away from here." - "He had a deacon of a church present while signing the documents. He also appointed a power of attorney on his behalf while he was gone." - "I also knew he would have a warrant out for his arrest soon. He was in contempt of child support court." [12/05/09 at 08:58 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-05 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Eddie Dixon that made the comment about me in the paper. Mr. Dixon owed Mr. Shakespeare money and they would argue about it. I got tired of them bickering back and forth so I helped Eddie out by purchasing his car to end the disagreement between them." [12/05/09 09:12 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=5
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Abraham made it to the 8th grade and he could print his whole name. He did not sign with a X." - "Everything I did he ask me to do. I have 11 million dollars worth of checks he wrote out before I ever met the man. I turned a copy of them all over to the Sheriff's Department. The biggest thing that keeps this going is that Abraham left on his own free will, but the people that owed him money now owe me, because I bought the bad debt." [12/06/09 06:11 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "They ask about Gregory Massey because he use to help Abraham out with his business. He was the one with Franklin Jackson in the newspaper when he first started his loan business. I talk with Greg Massey and he has no idea where he would go. I'm willing to offer 10,000.00 for someone to take him to the nearst sheriffs department for me." - "Michael World - moved shortly after Abraham did. He owned a clothing store in town and owed Mr. Shakespeare 100,000.00. He would have not hurt him but could be helping him hide." - "Eddie Dixon, Freddy West, Clearance West, Barbara and Franklin Jackson, Jimand Zaid" [12/06/09 08:15 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Abraham was man that had a ruff life. He was raised by his dad until he was 10 years old. He was doing somethings illegal when I met him. I told him I could not be involed unless it was done correctly. Like some loans were what you call loan sharking. They were at 20% which is illegal and I pointed that out. Some of his loans I could not even buy because they were written up illegally. Some people refuse to pay him because they knew he loaned to some drug runners and they held that over his head." [12/06/09 09:45 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=6
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Barbara Jackson lied. She and her husband got a 120,000.00 loan from Mr. Shakespeare that i have a copy of the note and the check." [12/06/09 09:39 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=7
2009-12-06 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Since you want to bring up his mom. Abraham only gave his mom 10,000 he gave some of his friends 1 million dollars. He gave his real sister 10,000 but gave three women that are not even related to him 250,000. He gave his cousin 40,000." [12/06/09 09:59 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=7
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "If you could link the people of interest that know Abraham and what places they own you could help find where he his staying." [12/09/09 06:54 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "the day I met my Direct TV guy years later after going to court. He laughed at me thinking it was funny how three Mexicans can steal a car and get away with it. His brother was one of those Mexicans. I was never convicted of insurance fraud and the charges were dropped. I only got charged with the check I wrote out that bounced because of my money being stolen. All three Mexicans had different stories. Thats how I can be a notary." - "I got the Mexicans number that laughed at me just in case I ever need him. He said, I could write a book on that day, jokingly, but it was one I really never wanted to remember again in my life." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I stayed in my house feeling sorry for myself for about two months then realized I needed to put it behind me. I went back to work and rebuilt what I had. I got so busy again into work and trying to help everyone I got slowed down again. I was in the car accident that put me in a wheel chair. That was me on Hwy 33 in my other Hummer. I guess they just got my age wrong. The other driver was at fault and hit me head on. The boy had no insurance and after finding out his mom and dad was separated and did not have a lot of money. I never tried to sue them." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "My right femur bone was crushed and they tried to sign me up for complete disability. Something I refused to do.I was not going to live off the system and other people when I was able to contribute myself. I learned to scuba dive and rebuild my muscle tone. I had started my company and I stayed on the phones all the time. For three years (24 hours a day) I was on the phones building my company until I let others start running it for me. Now its been running without me for the last two years. In that time I trained people to provide CPR, ACLS, and PALS to save peoples lives. I traveled and started pilot training. I helped people through rehab and even took in the homeless three times. I had a full life with plenty of money before Abraham Shakespeare." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I made one mistake, lying for Mr. Shakespeare so he could have his old life back, but that is all. He had a lot of others things going on all at the same time. His attorney had dropped him for non-payment on the Michael Ford case that was still up for Appeal and did not close until May. He had another girl he had choked threatening a lawsuit. His best friend would not sign papers that he owed him. The one that hurt him the most was that his own brother threatened to kill him. He wanted money from Abraham but he refused to give him anymore. The only person getting hurt by all of this is Mrs. Walker. Abrahams mom who has come over and prayed for me twice since all this started. I use to take her to Busch Gardens and even the Holy Land to pray." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "You cant blame me for finding him interesting. Like the public official he paid off to get his drivers license. He thought that stuff was funny and wanted it in the book. He never had a drivers license until he paid a public official for one. He could not pass the driving test. Thats why he got so many tickets after getting his license." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I have personally hired my own private detective and offered 10,000.00 of my own money rewarded to the people I think can find him." [12/09/09 02:19 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=11
2009-12-09 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "He was not paying child support on that child. He went to jail when he won the lottery for refusing to pay $36.00 to his back child support. The mother of the child had to take him to court and fight for that money. That is all public record. The child in child support court now is another baby he had with different girl after winning the lottery." [12/09/09 02:30 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I did not serve a years probation. Check again. Once I paid the charges the probation was dropped. Trust me I wanted to go all the way through the court system. My lawyer at the time talked me out of it. He said, they would get me on the check charge anyways and that way this would be over with quickly. I could have the charges removed from my record later. I'm 37 years old and have never got charged with anything else. I don't do drugs of any kind and I believe in the legal system. I would have been glad to pay the IRS but I did not owe them. They put a lien on my assets until the audit was done that cleared me." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I never meant to put Abraham in a negative light. I'm just telling the truth and how he would tell it himself. He has a lot of good about him. He meant well but just has the wrong kind of friends. The kind of things he wants in my book are not ones his mother agrees with being put in there. He does buy everything from the dollar store. He never spends anything on himself. He went to New York and bought 5 of his women back a purse. He never minded the little loans. It's the big ones that people kept calling him about." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I only agreed to write the book if Abraham would give his portion of the book proceeds to his mom. I wanted her to retire and remodel her kitchen. In Abraham defense he was going to buy her a house at first but she did not want to move. Since she did not want the house he said you got to wait until the next go around. She would have loved her house remodeled. She should have retired two years ago." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - " I only have two loans I collect from; I give them right back out to her. I pay someone 3 times a week to carry her back in forth to work and to the doctors. I have the proof of the checks going into my account and being written right back out." - "I talked about giving back and keeping the kids off the streets. I told him I was opening up a paint ball field to help give back to my community." [12/10/09 01:47 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=12
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "He did not drive the truck he was a ride along. He helped unload." [12/10/09 01:35 PM] [http ://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4546065#post4546065]
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I told Mrs. Green I was offering a 10,000 reward. Call her and ask why it was not posted." [12/10/09 01:42 PM] [http ://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4546065#post4546065]
2009-12-10 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "The 10,000.00 I have already put it aside. I let the people know that can actual find him. Since the newspaper did not post it. You can receive it but youre never going to find him when all you have is me to look at." - "If you are interested in looking up some people that interest me you can email me at Dmoore10@aol.com. I will email you conformation that the 10,000 is set aside. Your information leads to his where about it's yours." [12/10/09 01:42 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=13
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I started new company to separate it from mine. I wanted to make sure that taxes were paid correctly on loans that did pay. You have to pay taxes on the profit and interest received from the loans. I applied for ein number so that everything was done correctly. I was taking the loan money and writing it back out to the person that takes Abrahams mom back in forth to work and to the doctors." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I met Abraham he had a house loan that was behind so I paid it for him until he could sell some assets. The lady in the bank is my witness a long with one of his friends that was with him He kept begging me to buy his house, I did not want it. He kept going down in price for me. He told people he sold me the house. Not just his friends but his neighbors. One is a country music singer, septic man, and more." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I cant mention names so Im just going to say amounts The mortgage for 198,000 he has seen two payments from them in two years. The house might be worth $150,000 now. Abraham would go by again and again they would not answer. He threatened foreclosure they sent him a check that bounced. He wanted to kick him out but was still going through the Michael Ford case and he was one of his main witnesses on the case. He had worked with Mr. Shakespeare. I threatened foreclosure and couldnt. I felt bad for them. They are hard workers. So I decided to work with them and help them out. Thats got me nowhere. In 8 months I have gotten one payment." [[12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Lake Parker house Edom lives in. Abraham went and talked to him before he left. Cedric knew why his cousin was leaving. I loaned Cedric some money to buy a car which he thought I was taking back on Nov 9, 2009. I had gone and pick up the car to prevent daily storage charges on towing. Cedric got upset with me when I picked up the car. Next thing I know Abraham was reported missing. He kept calling me saying he was not the one that reported him missing. I told him if he was thats filing a false police report and he can be charged with all these man hours. He told me the pastors the one that reported it but the police still say Cedric is the one that reported it.Then he called and said he was sorry. That did not work so he had the pastor of the church ask me to forgive him." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I was there the day Abraham went and talked with him. Abraham was riding in my hummer. I did not hear everything Abraham told him but enough to know he understood what was going on and he would not be back for awhile. Abraham said, he even went over there again by himself later on that week. Cedric called the newspaper but they did not print all of his comments. I think they are waiting to check out the validity of his comments. I not going to comment on everything that he told me." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "The house on Pearl Street is another mess. First off the title is not clear. Its going to take a couple of court dates to fix that mess. The biggest thing is that Abraham wants Cedric Lewis sued. Not for money just so that he can never do this to anyone else again. He sold him a house for $123,000. No house in that whole neighbor has ever sold for more than $36,000. Its not in a very good neighborhood. After I researched it even more I got someone willing to testify in Abrahams behalf against Cedric Lewis." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Several houses Abraham bought for people were never filed. They went out and got loans with other companies. When Abraham finally filed papers he was considered the second mortgage holder. Those houses are now in foreclosure with the first loan holders. So they will be no money awarded on those houses." [12/11/09 03:06 AM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=16
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "Cedric had seen Abraham. You only see what they let you see in the paper." [12/11/09 12:33 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=17
2009-12-11 - Dee Dee Moore posting *excerpt* on websleuths.com - "I can't post here anymore. I just found out why one of you are so negative toward me. You are related to one of the people Abraham loaned very large amounts of money to. You want me discredited so you don't have to pay anything. I already told them to let you know you can keep the money if you have to steal it. That was to retire Mrs. Shakespeare, so I hope you enjoy it. It's not worth my life and stop having people call in with all your bogus calls. It's a waste of their time and mine to." [12/11/09 01:55 PM] http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288&page=17
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I appreciate that too. But can I ask what is going on Tricia with continually pointing our CandyRose in this thread? I know myself and others have posted HOURs worth of research in these threads. Do you know how long it took me to write out the transaction on the Miller property? About 3 hours. Other posters collected all Dee's post a few pages back for Investigating. I'm not saying members should not be praised, just what is going out with your interest in only Candyrose?
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