GUILTY FL - Blake, 54, & Mary-Jo Hadley, 47, beaten, Port St Lucie, 16 July 2011

[Filly]

Re: both boys are defendants..

This isnt true.. As is shown ^above^ in leomoons post she is replying to it's states "Blake Hadley and Tyler Hadley" as the defendants.. Blake is the father that is now deceased.. Not the other son, Tyler's brother..

To my knowledge it was just Tyler that was involved in the accident that resulted in injury to a child to which that chld's family was suing for $15,000.00 on behalf of the injured child.. Due to Tyler being a minor himself that meant that the lawsuit would be against his adult parents..

I believe this is why it shows Blake(the father) listed as a co-defendant.. Due to Tyler(the other co-defendant and driver of the vehicle involved in the accident)being a minor the lawsuit then technically involved suing of his parents.. Thus making Blake a co-defendant..

Hope that made sense..

That would be correct. There's an article linked on the begining of the thread that stated the vehicle was registered to Mr. Hadley and Mr. Hadley was the insured.

Also it was a child that was hurt. The way I read it I believe the child was a pedestrian.

Just an aside as far as insurance goes. My gentleman friend was driving. I was the passenger. A woman who had just shot up heroin in a parking lot pulled out in front of us. Of course she had no insuarance and of course she wasn't hurt. It came to light she actually stole her husband's car who oddly enough was one of the EMT's that came in the ambulance to take us to hospital.

In the accident I was the only one severely injured. My gentleman friend had halfway decent insuarance however my own father with whom I resided and mind you I am an adult. My dad had the most expensive insurance BUT had never been in an accident in his life. Who did the attorney's have me sure? My own father. Because I resided in the same house I could sue his insurance. They said it would not end up my dad's insurance would go up as it was already astronomical as it was.

Guess what? My poor dad died right after my accident very suddenly and sure enough the month after he dided we get the insurance bill and it went up. I often feel guilty as it freaked my dad out that he was getting sued. Basically he was paying for the heroin addict riding around without insurance in a stolen vehicle.

Sorry that was a long post, but most people don't know it can work that way. Thanks to my dad I got the very best medical care and four operations later was able to walk. BTW, it was not just random lawyers explaining to my dad his insurance would not be effected. Someone in my immediate family is an attorney and confirmed it.

I can't imagine the chaos and stress that had to be going on in the Hadley family home.

 

[JBounds]

After reading how big his dad was and everything. How did he overpower him and move him without help? Adrenaline?

 

[Kat]

I have no problem with them being treated in prison if they are convicted of the crime(s). Although I have read treatment is rarely successful and can even exacerbate the problem instead of alleviating it.

But as you have stated it in no way excuses these type of young killers from their heinous acts.

This boy had plenty of aforethought applied to these crimes.

He planned it and he carried them out.

He kill the weakest first.......his mom.

He then killed his father.

He then covered their bodies with various items.

He lied to LE saying his parents weren't home.

So he certainly knew right from wrong and knew what he had done was very wrong and that is why he tried to conceal it. He didn't think his best friend would bust him out on his secret. Thank God his friend did come forth.

imo

Thanks! I hadn't had time to keep up with this thread, life has been so hectic this last week or so. (kids getting ready for back to school stuff)

I didn't know the order in which he killed them. I think I'll try to follow this one through trial phase. I want to see what happens with this one. I have no doubt he'll be convicted. JMHO

 

[Peazzzer]

The things being said about him by the neighbors that he was so polite, etc., so was Eddie Haskell. Theres always something lurking beneath the facade, whether its dysfunction in the family, etc. This reminds me why I am still so P O'd about the Pinellas 12 pack! Green light guys! GAAAHHH!!

 

[panthera]

Yes, it is and it just shows too much planning and premeditation too, imo.

More and more we are seeing these type of young killers. Those who are not abused but coming from good families.

IMO

In some warped sense, however, they believe they're being abused when they are told "no", whatever the matter may be.

MOO

 

[panthera]

After reading how big his dad was and everything. How did he overpower him and move him without help? Adrenaline?

Most likely caught him off guard, and size wouldn't matter when one person is wielding a weapon against the other.

MOO

 

[ziggy]

Mr. Ziggy if you don't mind to answer(but please don't hesitate to just tell me to butt out if so desire).. Do you personally feel that in your case specifically that there is mental illness involved? Do you think that most cases involve mental illness or something such as personality disorders?*
And from your personal experience do feel as though it is in any way related to his environment or an abuse at a young age(and obviously when I say abuse i mean it in a way many people have experienced an abuse be it outside of the immediate family the abuse took place).. Or do you believe it is inherent in certain individuals from birth?

As I said only if you don't mind and i full well understand if you do mind and choose not to answer any of them..

Again thanks for sharing with us..

Well I can only speak from personal experience and I know the boy was not abused; his mother is a sociopath. Like everything I think these things are a perfect storm of nature and nurture. The boy was difficult as an infant and toddler. When no punishment or techniques work, parents get worn down with kids like this. On the other end of the spectrum, the daughter is being raised to BE a narcissistic sociopath. She is taught that shopping and money are what is important; she can mouth off and say anything she wants and is never called on it; gifts and trips are lavished on her (the mother married a guy with money and uses it to teach her daughter that her father is bad because he's poor - and I'm not kidding, when she was 11 years old she said she didn't want to see him any more because he didn't have a job and expected other people to take care of him - that is no 11 year old speak) - we got her some modest affordable gifts for her 13th birthday only to find out her mother flew her to New York to see Broadway shows for her birthday. The year before that it was Vegas and shows.

So I think some people are born that way and others are trained to be that way while their brains are still developing.

Here's what I wonder...how culpable are parents who just spoil their kids and raise total brats to the development of the personality disorder?

I honestly believe that some of these personality disorders can me created in children by constantly feeding their egos with no balance for spirit and empathy for others.

Who knows!!!! It's just frustrating to ever have to know people like this.

 

[Lovejac]

http://www.wtsp.com/rss/article/205...ed-cash-after-parents-murder?odyssey=obinsite

FORT PIERCE, Florida - A 17-year-old accused of murdering his parents with a hammer showed his friends thousands of dollars in cash before throwing a party at his family's Florida home, according to police documents released Monday.

The documents include photographs of Tyler Hadley at a Chase ATM hours after his parents July 16 death at their house in Port St. Lucie. Friends he later picked up en route to the party say he showed them about $5,000 in cash.

 

[Melanie]

In some warped sense, however, they believe they're being abused when they are told "no", whatever the matter may be.

MOO

The youth of today really scare me. This self-entitled society is doing more harm than good. Why do kids think they should get everything handed to them on a silver platter? I look at my sons crew, and he is the only one who has chores to do, gets a fixed allowance, and I don't take him to the fancy stores for clothes or whatever the newest bling is. I'm the worst parent EVER! OMG - we went to Target for back to school clothes? Yup. You don't have the newest cell phone? Nope. You can't hang out at the corner liquor store all day? NO!

I'm not blaming the parents here, because I think a lot of the self-entitlement comes from friends (I know because my son brings it home with him and gets all whiny crazy when I have to say no).

Kids/teenagers really need structure and discipline to succeed. I can't presume to know how this 17 year old was raised, but something went wrong along the way.

Just MOO.

Mel

 

[Melanie]

Well I can only speak from personal experience and I know the boy was not abused; his mother is a sociopath. Like everything I think these things are a perfect storm of nature and nurture. The boy was difficult as an infant and toddler. When no punishment or techniques work, parents get worn down with kids like this. On the other end of the spectrum, the daughter is being raised to BE a narcissistic sociopath. She is taught that shopping and money are what is important; she can mouth off and say anything she wants and is never called on it; gifts and trips are lavished on her (the mother married a guy with money and uses it to teach her daughter that her father is bad because he's poor - and I'm not kidding, when she was 11 years old she said she didn't want to see him any more because he didn't have a job and expected other people to take care of him - that is no 11 year old speak) - we got her some modest affordable gifts for her 13th birthday only to find out her mother flew her to New York to see Broadway shows for her birthday. The year before that it was Vegas and shows.

So I think some people are born that way and others are trained to be that way while their brains are still developing.

Here's what I wonder...how culpable are parents who just spoil their kids and raise total brats to the development of the personality disorder?

I honestly believe that some of these personality disorders can me created in children by constantly feeding their egos with no balance for spirit and empathy for others.

Who knows!!!! It's just frustrating to ever have to know people like this.

Thank you, Ziggy -- you said it much better than my feeble attempt

 

[matou]

http://www.wtsp.com/rss/article/205...ed-cash-after-parents-murder?odyssey=obinsite

OMG.....this is just sick. So this boy became his own hitman. JMO

 

[deelytful1]

Sick, spoiled, ingrate...
Guess a few thousand and a party was worth the 17 years of care and food and clothes his parents gave him.. oh yeah, and worth his parents life, his future children's grandparents, etc
We give our kids too much!! MOO
Yesterday, some lady down the block gave my son and a friend $10 each to take out an hour's worth of moving trash to the dumpsters. When they got home i asked if they could take a piece of furniture to the dumpster I wanted disposed. You would have thought I asked my son to pick up the house and move it!
Luckily, I'm not a pushover and he KNEW I was really upset with him and he begged for forgiveness half the night
BUT, why is it so darn hard for kids to look at, and help their family the way they do strangers?? The grass is always greener. I'm generalizing, but I'm sure u know what I mean.
I hope this kid lives to miss and regret his actions forever...especially when he realizes NO ONE is gonna put up with his "stuff" the way his parents did... Sigh. Sad.
[steps down off of soap box]

 

[krimekat]

Sick, spoiled, ingrate...
Guess a few thousand and a party was worth the 17 years of care and food and clothes his parents gave him.. oh yeah, and worth his parents life, his future children's grandparents, etc
We give our kids too much!! MOO
Yesterday, some lady down the block gave my son and a friend $10 each to take out an hour's worth of moving trash to the dumpsters. When they got home i asked if they could take a piece of furniture to the dumpster I wanted disposed. You would have thought I asked my son to pick up the house and move it!
Luckily, I'm not a pushover and he KNEW I was really upset with him and he begged for forgiveness half the night
BUT, why is it so darn hard for kids to look at, and help their family the way they do strangers?? The grass is always greener. I'm generalizing, but I'm sure u know what I mean.
I hope this kid lives to miss and regret his actions forever...especially when he realizes NO ONE is gonna put up with his "stuff" the way his parents did... Sigh. Sad.
[steps down off of soap box]

I agree with your example where KIDS expect to be paid for actions that should be a given . . . We do give our kids so much -- so much more than we had, but it's generational thing, right?

I believe we are distancing ourselves from family & nature with all these electronics (TV included) & being indoors all the time. Our society is struggling. I hope the new MTV generation can provide for their children in the matter of their choosing - I think it's going to be difficult for them !

 

[Paintr]

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/fort_pierce/911-calls-describing-tyler-hadley's-alleged-crime-released-to-public

911 calls describing Tyler Hadley's alleged crime released to public


He can be heard saying that a mutual friend confided in him and said, "He told me that the kid, Tyler, is f----d up and he was like--he told me--he told me that the gist of it-that he did something to his parents. I was like, bro, I don't want to know any details. He said he already called and reported everything to CrimeStoppers. I was just calling cause I felt I needed to."

911 operator: "Did he say specifically he hurt them? Like, are they still alive?" Tipster: "My understanding of it was that he killed them."

The caller seems shaken and concerned.

Tipster: "His parents--the bodies are supposed to be at his house. Apparently. That's my understanding of it. It's all jumbled up. I'm really like scared, confused, you know."

 

[Paintr]

http://www.cbs12.com/articles/hadley-4734322-lucie-calls.html


Police say Hadley covered up his parents with items from around the house. We're also finding out in the same bedroom the family's pet dog was locked up inside a closet. The bodies were found on the floor, quote "both were lying face down and had towels wrapped around their heads."

This was an extremely violent attack. Police point out the claw of the hammer was used and not the head of the hammer.

 

[girlinblue]

One thing I have to say about this--there are SOME decent kids left in the world. Every one of them that tipped off about this did so BECAUSE they knew it was wrong. Even if it was right away, they still did. And I think that says a lot.

 

[joe jones]

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/15/florida.parents.killed/index.html

grand jury indicts him

 

[JSR]

Wow any chance this kid is the long lost cousin of Casey Anthony?

 

[dsntslp]

Tyler Hadley's Facebook invitation, other evidence released in Port St. Lucie case | Photos, video, documents

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/sep/19/tyler-hadleys-facebook-invitation-other-evidence/

 

[Salem]

I set up a Reference thread for this case, right here: NEWS and TIMELINE INFO - FL~17 yr old Tyler Hadley killed his parents & threw a party - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I added links to the last two articles. Please feel free to add any other links/media releases you would like to be able to refer back too as the case moves forward.

To find the thread, without the link, come to the Crimes In the News forum, at the top of the page click on:

Crimes In The News- Time Line - Media-Reference Forum


then click on Hadley's thread.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Salem