GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #1

[Strangeworld]

Because a mother will do anything to hold onto her children, even if it means they may have a better life with the father.

And that's the corker. She didn't hold onto Cherish at the precise moment when she really needed her mum to protect her.

 

[cityslick]

Shouldn't the mother do anything in the best interest of the children?

Yes but usually the best interest of the children sometimes doesn't mean losing custody, at least from the mothers point of view. I speak from experience on this.

We also know nothing of the circumstances and dynamic of the mother and father, what the father's situation is, etc., so it's probably not fair to automatically assume that she should of given up her kids, no matter what her current situation is (which we don't know either).

 

[jjenny]

Yes but usually the best interest of the children sometimes doesn't mean losing custody, at least from the mothers point of view. I speak from experience on this.

We also know nothing of the circumstances and dynamic of the mother and father, what the father's situation is, etc., so it's probably not fair to automatically assume that she should of given up her kids, no matter what her current situation is (which we don't know either).

What we know is she and her children got into the car with some guy she just met, over the lure of a 100$ gift card from Walmart. Then either allowed her child to go with this guy to McDonalds, or didn't watch her child to even realize she left with this guy-after 10 pm at night, I might add. I just don't see this as responsible parenting choices.

 

[betterthaniusedtobe]

Shouldn't the mother do anything in the best interest of the children?

SHOULD, but sadly they often DON'T :banghead:

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Ohhh, yes. We will also get to see what was going on for the better part of the whole evening because the one good thing about Walmart is they take their loss prevention VERY seriously, so they have cameras everywhere. Dollar General also has camera surveillance.

If you look up the father's FB page, he made a statement eluded to the warnings that he had given the Court many times about Mom's parenting.

I read that too and I feel very sad. I know things are documented, but if they are true... I also loved seeing the pics of little Cherish on wonderful vacations with her family.

 

[cityslick]

What we know is she and her children got into the car with some guy she just met, over the lure of a 100$ gift card from Walmart. Then either allowed her child to go with this guy to McDonalds, or didn't watch her child to even realize she left with this guy-after 10 pm at night, I might add. I just don't see this as responsible parenting choices.

I agree, it's bad judgement all the way around, which is why I said it's tragic moreso because it was preventable. When I said she was desperate, I didn't mean that as an excuse for her actions.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Yes but usually the best interest of the children sometimes doesn't mean losing custody, at least from the mothers point of view. I speak from experience on this.

We also know nothing of the circumstances and dynamic of the mother and father, what the father's situation is, etc., so it's probably not fair to automatically assume that she should of given up her kids, no matter what her current situation is (which we don't know either).

Her father is married and is retired military and holds a non-military job now according to statements he's made on fb. I hope this is ok to post. If not, please delete. This info is on Dad's fb page for public consumption and I have paraphrased his info. Thanks. But please notify me if I have misinterpreted the rules.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Shouldn't the mother do anything in the best interest of the children?

JJ, I always look forward to your posts as they are spot on. I'm afraid the lessons of King Solomon are over for some

 

[my_tee_mouse]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-06-23/story/after-cherish-perrywinkles-death-hundreds-mourn

“She was trying to make sure her child was presentable, her child looked good to see her daddy,” Dugger said. “You don’t have the money. You don’t have the wherewithal, and somebody comes up and offers to help.”

:facepalm::silenced:


ETA: Ann Dugger is a Justice Coalition victim's advocate*:

http://www.justicecoalition.org/

http://www.justicecoalition.org/newspaper/June2013/JUNE_VA_pg-2.pdf


*And from the June 2013 JC newspaper, she is the director of JC as well.

 

[jjenny]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-06-23/story/after-cherish-perrywinkles-death-hundreds-mourn

“She was trying to make sure her child was presentable, her child looked good to see her daddy,” Dugger said. “You don’t have the money. You don’t have the wherewithal, and somebody comes up and offers to help.”

:facepalm::silenced:


ETA: Ann Dugger is a Justice Coalition victim's advocate:

http://www.justicecoalition.org/

http://www.justicecoalition.org/newspaper/June2013/JUNE_VA_pg-2.pdf

From "daddy's" facebook, it's rather obvious he isn't happy with the mother. He tried to get custody but wasn't able to.

 

[LarkBunting]

Yes, the killer is the one responsible for this little girl's murder, but - to a lesser extent - so is the mother. To a lesser extent after that, so are any lawmakers/parole boards/LE/psych workers who did anything less than strongly recommend that the perp remain in prison. To a lesser extent after that, we can lay some blame on the judges/custody courts who gave custody to the mother over the father, despite what seems to be a protracted legal battle.

Everyone who led to Cherish's horrific death should feel responsibility. Yes, the mother is a victim and I can't imagine her pain, but this could have been so easily avoided. She failed to protect her child from a monster. She failed to even TRY to protect her.

Also, I, too, grew up poor. I, too, am a single mom of multiple kids (from the same father). I struggle financially - all the time. Just yesterday, my 8yo wanted a $10 item at the store while we were grocery shopping. I would have loved to get it for him, but I couldn't, which I explained. I am a protective mom, an attentive mom, a loving & caring, responsible mom. None of those things cost money.

I protect my kids til my dying breath. I am their mother. That is my job. Poor Cherish deserved the same.

 

[momrids6]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-06-23/story/after-cherish-perrywinkles-death-hundreds-mourn

“She was trying to make sure her child was presentable, her child looked good to see her daddy,” Dugger said. “You don’t have the money. You don’t have the wherewithal, and somebody comes up and offers to help.”

:facepalm::silenced:

Military fathers pay a pretty penny in child support :stormingmad:

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Military fathers pay a pretty penny in child support :stormingmad:

Yep! I would think they do!

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Military fathers pay a pretty penny in child support :stormingmad:

Good point MR6! I hadn't even thought about that.

 

[momrids6]

Also, I, too, grew up poor. I, too, am a single mom of multiple kids (from the same father). I struggle financially - all the time. Just yesterday, my 8yo wanted a $10 item at the store while we were grocery shopping. I would have loved to get it for him, but I couldn't, which I explained. I am a protective mom, an attentive mom, a loving & caring, responsible mom. None of those things cost money.

I protect my kids til my dying breath. I am their mother. That is my job. Poor Cherish deserved the same.

RSBM: The live in BF stated he has helped raise Cherish since she was 10 months old; and with a military father- support comes out of his check if neccessary.

 

[momrids6]

Father of Cherish Perrywinkle releases statement through attorney: 'Legal system has failed'

"Just this morning, he expected to pick Cherish at the airport for his summer visit with her. Instead, he received news of his daughter's disappearance and death because of the Mother's neglect.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=317675

 

[EGirl]

Because a mother will do anything to hold onto her children, even if it means they may have a better life with the father.

No, a good mother would do what was in the best interest of her child.

If you find a guy 'creepy' that you have exposed your children too, remove them and yourself from the 'creepy' situation immediately.

JMO

 

[blue22]

Because a mother will do anything to hold onto her children, even if it means they may have a better life with the father.

So...a mother will do "anything" to keep custody instead of the father. But she won't do ANYTHING, to keep her from a creepy man she just met?

???????????????????????

 

[my_tee_mouse]

So...a mother will do "anything" to keep custody instead of the father. But she won't do ANYTHING, to keep her from a creepy man she just met?

???????????????????????

Downright confuzzling, isn't it?

 

[cityslick]

No, a good mother would do what was in the best interest of her child.

If you find a guy 'creepy' that you have exposed your children too, remove them and yourself from the 'creepy' situation immediately.

JMO

Maybe that's the point, she didn't find the guy creepy until it was too late. Maybe she believed she was doing what was in the best interest of the child (getting her new clothes and something to eat). She just was wrong and I'm sure she'll pay that price forever.

You know, not all RSO's wear a sign proclaiming as such. They come as your friends, bearing gifts.