GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #1

[Magdalyn]

Oh Lord...I just read the boyfriend's interview. Good gracious....

I've typed out and deleted three posts in response to the boyfriend's interview.

Now I think it's just best if I put myself on a preemptive time out. :silenced:

 

[Ausgirl]

So if the majority are in agreement on the sissy-sentencing, why is no one listening to us?

Because politicians don't read posts on crime boards...

It would take a sustained, organised effort targetted at the right people to change sentencing laws. Things tend to change when the people who vote stand up together and demand that they change or --- no vote.

Or just a few more sickening child deaths, whatever comes first.

Also -- there's something very unsavoury to me about insinuating that Rayne was sexually motivated to any degree in accepting the company of Smith. There's NO evidence that is so. None. And insinuating that she's a *advertiser censored* isn't helping anyone, is it.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I've typed out and deleted three posts in response to the boyfriend's interview.

Now I think it's just best if I put myself on a preemptive time out. :silenced:

I hear ya! That's why I only wrote what I wrote! I didn't want to get a TO!!

 

[necco]

Code words are good things to have between immediate family members. My son and I have always had a "code word." It means, "There's danger here." My son is grown and a parent himself now, but we still have that code word in use. Fairly recently he thought I sounded rather strange and strained on the phone, so he used the code word with a question mark behind it. Smart thinking. At that point all I would have had to say is "yes," and 911 would have been called. As it was, I assured him that no, this was not a *** situation.

We also had a code word that had to be used in case I had to send a stranger to pick him up. If that person didn't know that word...no way was my son going to go anywhere with that person.

Respectfully snipped.

We had a code word as well. Once, in high school, my parents sent someone to pick me up. And he forgot the code word. It was a brand name of something. (I don't want to give it away because, well, it's a codeword.) Let's say it was Kleenex. I hesitated when I saw him, despite knowing him. He looked at me, chagrined and said "I think I'm supposed to say something about tissues or something." Fortunately, between the car, the dog and the bad attempt at the codeword, I figured my parent really had sent him. (And I was a teenager at that point.)

Codewords work. Everyone should have one. Everyone should also have a "if you get lost, meet here" plan when at amusement parks and stuff like that. It's simple safety.

Too late for Cherish, but hopefully others will learn from her death.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

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BBM
Completely, totally, 1000% agree with every fiber of my being! As are the majority of society, I believe. So if the majority are in agreement on the sissy-sentencing, why is no one listening to us?
Also, the "formulas" for sentencing keeps a court from giving what we would consider an appropriate sentence. I'm linking the federal sex offender sentencing here http://www.ehow.com/about_5468645_sex-offender-sentencing-guidelines.html
And most of us would consider the rape of a child to be cruel and unusual, yet these baby rapers are coddled in my opinion. They get protective status throughout their incarceration, lawyers and appeals on our dime, and counseling. Why do they need counseling? I don't believe for one second that any kind of counseling or therapy, even chemical castration works. Castration doesn't work because all of their evilness begins in their brain (not that I wouldn't volunteer to physically castrate any of these sobs' myself). Once castrated, they will find other "ways" :sick: to molest and rape.

I believe it was JaxFlaGal that posted this
As he was about to leave prison in 1999, the state flagged Smith as likely to reoffend and be dangerous in the future. Psychiatrists who evaluated him agreed. [B}Just 1 percent of all sex offenders and predators get such a recommendation.[/B]

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
1 percent?? Really? That makes me even angrier! An SO has been red-flagged from the get-go by professionals as likely to re-offend, but sure, we'll release him, it's not like he's going to be in my neighborhood once he gets out. Maybe we should start setting up tents in the yards of those that believe he can be rehabliltated and just let the freaks out early.
Sorry, I got on my soapbox. Now I've got to calm down so I can get some sleep

I agree with just about everything you said...but I don't see anyone saying that he could be rehabilitated. In fact, I see just the opposite. He was red-flagged as likely to re-offend. And just jumping off your post...the time to determine if someone is likely to be rehabilitated is not after he's been set loose...it's while he is still in prison! So that if the "rehabilitation" does not work...no harm, no foul. He's still in prison...not out on the street. And as to sex offenders, IMO there should be a mighty thin wire that they have to walk to prove that rehabilitation. And even then, when let out they should be in a strict halfway house situation with ongoing therapy and no contact with children whatsoever.

 

[jjenny]

As far as I can tell, his other convictions against children were "attempted." Which probably explains why he was out and about.

 

[katydid23]

http://www.news4jax.com/news/boyfri...eaks/-/475880/20693252/-/5s2kgcz/-/index.html

"Cherish's mom says she told Cherish just last week to never leave a store with a stranger."

My anger says, "Gag me."
My compassion says, "Here is a grown woman trying to say the right things, the things she has heard about staying safe, but really she sadly probably has no idea how to live them."

I agree, it is hard to deal with some of what she is now sayng.

I mean, WTH? Why would Cherish ever think that man was a 'stranger?' They rode to Walmart with him in that van. Why would she consider him dangerous?

I am trying to give mom the benefit of the doubt because none of this was malicious on her part. She was duped but if she was high or drunk, that will be very frustrating for me.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Respectfully snipped.

We had a code word as well. Once, in high school, my parents sent someone to pick me up. And he forgot the code word. It was a brand name of something. (I don't want to give it away because, well, it's a codeword.) Let's say it was Kleenex. I hesitated when I saw him, despite knowing him. He looked at me, chagrined and said "I think I'm supposed to say something about tissues or something." Fortunately, between the car, the dog and the bad attempt at the codeword, I figured my parent really had sent him. (And I was a teenager at that point.)

Codewords work. Everyone should have one. Everyone should also have a "if you get lost, meet here" plan when at amusement parks and stuff like that. It's simple safety.

Too late for Cherish, but hopefully others will learn from her death.

BBM: Yes! Absolutely!!!

 

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[my_tee_mouse]

As far as I can tell, his other convictions against children were "attempted." Which probably explains why he was out and about.

So he was let out again and again until he perfected his craft. SMH

 

[mikeysmommom]

I think she's just attempting to cover her *advertiser censored*/shield herself from the onslaught of hate she knows is out there for a woman who'd do the dumb things she did. It's deflecting blame, and that's how a kid handles guilt - to me this is a good indicator of the level of emotional/mental maturity she possesses.

Not that it's an excuse. Just understandable behaviour, for somebody who isn't very mature to begin with.

On Saturday hours after they found her first born daughters body,the day she should have been flying off to Ca to spend her summer vacation she went to the road side memorial and talked to the reporters she was in CYA mode then.

 

[necco]

As far as I can tell, his other convictions against children were "attempted." Which probably explains why he was out and about.

I will never understand why we reward criminals for being bad at their chosen crime. Attempted murder should not carry a lesser sentence just because your aim sucks.

 

[Gypsy Road]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...neral-plans-cherish-perrywinkle-until-autopsy

"Victims advocate says no funeral plans for Cherish Perrywinkle until autopsy is complete."

 

[cluciano63]

I will never understand why we reward criminals for being bad at their chosen crime. Attempted murder should not carry a lesser sentence just because your aim sucks.

Kind of like how many people (probably) get away with murder because bodies cannot be found...they get away with it for being good at hiding the body.

 

[blue22]

sounds to me like she is trying to alleviate her own guilt.

this.

 

[blue22]

This article sheds a bit more light on the custody situation and their relationship.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...-years-Report-recommended-father-take-custody

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Wilkerson said teachers were contacting Jarreau and were concerned for Cherish. In the report, the custody evaluator noted that Perrywinkle's home was in poor condition and had no air conditioning.

The evaluator recommended Jarreau take custody but the judge granted custody to Perrywinkle.

"The judge noted that if she were to allow the child to go live primarily with [Jarreau] in California that the effect of that would be that the mother would not ever see the child again because she did not have any money any means to pay for travel," said Wilkerson.

from article posted above...

 

[mikeysmommom]

I have thought about this for awhile and the picture drives me crazy!
I will most likely get slammed for this but oh well.....
I do belive this mom had a warm and fuzzy feeling for this guy like she was cheating on BF out in the open with the kids in tow!
I can't put the words to what I am trying to say sorry!

How many live in boyfriends would have no problem with a man taking his girlfriend on a shopping spree,not many that I know. I wonder if this is the first time or if this happened before,shopping sprees with strangers.

ETA Her boyfriend also had no worries that his family unit,does not matter if he is any of their dads or not, he has the father role in that household and he was not worried about their safety hours and hours with a stranger!So both adults have very bad judgement.

 

[SwampMama]

I'm sorry but the mom is just digging herself in deeper and deeper. Here at WS we are told not to bash or blame the victim. But there is the mom once again, seeming to be blaming the victim. So far she has said that:

1) it was Cherish that wanted the dress so bad which is why Mom went along with the man,
2) that Cherish walked off from her and followed the man and mom had no idea

and now
3) that Mom had specifically told her never to go off with a stranger.

To me, it sounds like Mom is trying to CYA at the expense of her child. Please correct me if I am wrong. I hope I am wrong. I'm not trying bash the mom. I am just pointing out something which is really getting to me. Even in death, the mom is not protecting her child.

 

[margarita25]

Respectfully snipped.
Everyone should also have a "if you get lost, meet here" plan when at amusement parks and stuff like that. It's simple safety.

I always say this in group situations, and people say, that's what cellphones are for! I'm like, well what if the cellphone battery dies or signal is lost, etc.?

My opinion is that one main problem is that people depend 100% on cellphones for these types of things, and don't have a plan B like meeting at the ticket booth at a certain time, etc in case the cellphone doesn't work!