GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #2

[mikeysmommom]

I wouldn't put much values into some photos.
Evaluation was done several years ago. Back then evaluator already describes house being in poor condition and air conditioning not working. Per the evaluator, custody of Cherish should have been given to her father. Judge ignored that for whatever reason, and the rest is history.

1.I read was because father was missing in her life for 3 yrs :banghead:
2. RP to poor to fly back and forth for visitations ............:banghead:
Reasons for 1&2
1.If dad is telling the truth it was RP fault he was missing.......:banghead:
2.If RP got even a part time job or if any adult did they have cheap tickets online.

Neither reason is good enough IMO to risk a child's life.Maybe she would have done some thing to improve her education most likely free or just became employed and improved life for all her children and then had the money to send for her and she do summers. See how she does with changing her pattern of making bad judgements.JMO

 

[Magdalyn]

hmm interesting, someone posted on the FB page that air conditioners have not been removed or sold.

I feel compelled to point out the reason-- to our non-US friends-- for our US fixation on air conditioning. Not everyone's home has it, many in more moderate climates don't really need it or can get by with some fans in the summer. Some homes in the north are built without it.

But Florida is a very warm climate in the US for many months of the year and can be downright ghastly in the summer.

However, I know some well-to-do retirees in Naples, Fl, who shun a/c and had their house built w/o it. Screened in pool in the backyard, no a/c. Then again, they are Italian immigrants and I think a/c is more of a US fetish.

Flip side, my in-laws are Philippine immigrants, my MIL's childhood home was a hut on stilts (no a/c, lol, but she had a pet monkey!), they have lived in Michigan for years (Cold climate!) and they LOVE and can't live without their A/C. Well, obviously they could, but you know what I mean.

I live in Georgia, also vera hot, and am currently suffering from the vapors. :sunshine::chillout:

 

[Gypsy Road]

I can assure you that not too many dancers I know would take kindly to her in the dressing room. We aren't known for being quiet subdued types

I don't know if I should ask this or not. I promise I'm not trying to sound disrespectful in ANY WAY! I am around the same age as RP (okay...I'm a few years older, but I still get carded on occasion) Well...I was just wondering are there many dancers the age of RP? Does age or attractiveness matter in this line of work? Would she have a problem finding employment as a dancer based on those two things? I have never stepped foot in "gentleman's club", but I have known a few dancers and they were younger and quite beautiful.

 

[Magdalyn]

I think the quotes have gotten wonky so I won't quote the question asked of AstroKitty, and this doesn't really answer the question asked....

But here in Atlanta, we are the proud home of the Clermont Lounge.

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Clermont Lounge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Clermont Lounge is Atlanta's first and longest continually operating strip club, opened in 1965. Located in the basement of the Clermont Motor Hotel at 789 Ponce De Leon Avenue, in the Poncey-Highland neighborhood. The Clermont has survived multiple attempts at being closed by the Atlanta city government, and has established a nationwide reputation for its kitschy atmosphere and unusual dancers. The Clermont has been featured on an episode of Insomniac with Dave Attell, and celebrities including Marilyn Manson, Ashton Kutcher, Kid Rock and Bombay Bicycle Club have been known to visit the Clermont when in Atlanta. Visitors to the Clermont usually alternate between a few handfuls of regulars and large numbers of college students, newcomers to town, and tourists lured in by tales of the Clermont's myriad charms.

The Clermont does not serve food or draft beer. The single stripper's stage is located in the middle of a circular bar, and the dancers choose their own songs on the in-house jukebox, as the club normally does not have an actual DJ. The Clermont is perhaps best known for featuring some dancers who do not meet the traditional physical standards for strippers, the most famous of whom is Blondie, noted for her ability to completely flatten empty beer cans between her breasts as well as for her poetry.

 

[mrsward]

I don't know if I should ask this or not. I promise I'm not trying to sound disrespectful in ANY WAY! I am around the same age as RP (okay...I'm a few years older, but I still get carded on occasion) Well...I was just wondering are there many dancers the age of RP? Does age or attractiveness matter in this line of work? Would she have a problem finding employment as a dancer based on those two things? I have never stepped foot in "gentleman's club", but I have known a few dancers and they were younger and quite beautiful.

Well im slightly younger but my lady decorations have gone way south..

Id be lucky to earn $10..

A week...
:blushing:

 

[Gypsy Road]

I want to see Blondie flatten empty beer cans! HA HA!

 

[Gypsy Road]

Well im slightly younger but my lady decorations have gone way south..

Id be lucky to earn $10..

A week...
:blushing:

Well...me too...my lady decorations are flat!

 

[AstroKitty]

Well im slightly younger but my lady decorations have gone way south..

Id be lucky to earn $10..

A week...
:blushing:

OMG haha I just about choked on my champagne. "Lady decorations". I'm stealing this and using it on tour. Thank you

 

[AstroKitty]

I think the quotes have gotten wonky so I won't quote the question asked of AstroKitty, and this doesn't really answer the question asked....

But here in Atlanta, we are the proud home of the Clermont Lounge.

--

Clermont Lounge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Clermont Lounge is Atlanta's first and longest continually operating strip club, opened in 1965. Located in the basement of the Clermont Motor Hotel at 789 Ponce De Leon Avenue, in the Poncey-Highland neighborhood. The Clermont has survived multiple attempts at being closed by the Atlanta city government, and has established a nationwide reputation for its kitschy atmosphere and unusual dancers. The Clermont has been featured on an episode of Insomniac with Dave Attell, and celebrities including Marilyn Manson, Ashton Kutcher, Kid Rock and Bombay Bicycle Club have been known to visit the Clermont when in Atlanta. Visitors to the Clermont usually alternate between a few handfuls of regulars and large numbers of college students, newcomers to town, and tourists lured in by tales of the Clermont's myriad charms.

The Clermont does not serve food or draft beer. The single stripper's stage is located in the middle of a circular bar, and the dancers choose their own songs on the in-house jukebox, as the club normally does not have an actual DJ. The Clermont is perhaps best known for featuring some dancers who do not meet the traditional physical standards for strippers, the most famous of whom is Blondie, noted for her ability to completely flatten empty beer cans between her breasts as well as for her poetry.

i've worked there. I tour the "weirdo clubs" like Jumbo's clown room in LA. I don't know who Blondie is but there's a girl there that lights sparklers with her nipples.

*edited to add: The oldest woman I've worked with was there. It was a serious travesty among traveling dancers with side show acts (eating glass, walking on fire .. dancing with fire..stilts) for this place to close

 

[crazyover88]

Exactly! This is why I have no issue with Mr Jarreau's attorney speaking out even via Facebook.... Because Ann Dugger and the "Justice Coalition" have been tirelessly lining up cash donations, etc etc for RP and her bf. While I think ignoring the elephant in the room about how this all came to happen. I understand that LE is reviewing their Amber Alert response, how the perp was out and about to do such things needs to be addressed of course... But folks why isn't the MSM talking about the reality of how the situation went down? do you think after the funeral that will change?

BBM I agree 100% and the thanks button wasn't enough..Ann Dugger has picked sides before IMO...Haleigh Cummings case rings a bell...


I sure hope so!! They need to quit worrying with what LE done wrong that night and focus on the reason it happened to begin with...IMO

 

[AstroKitty]

I don't know if I should ask this or not. I promise I'm not trying to sound disrespectful in ANY WAY! I am around the same age as RP (okay...I'm a few years older, but I still get carded on occasion) Well...I was just wondering are there many dancers the age of RP? Does age or attractiveness matter in this line of work? Would she have a problem finding employment as a dancer based on those two things? I have never stepped foot in "gentleman's club", but I have known a few dancers and they were younger and quite beautiful.

Yes, absolutely. I'm in my mid 30's. As long as you have a niche' you have a place. There are gentlemen clubs and then there's strip clubs (there is a HUGE difference). Gentlemen clubs are gowns, no touch and MORE money with higher payouts. You can pm me if you want links to places that will show you the difference so you can get a visual.

age really has nothing to do with it other than the management not being into the idea. Most women over a certain age (30 or 40) work day shift with the suit crowd. Most have kids and need to be home by dinner and that's why. Well, and other reasons sometimes.

 

[sreshowtime]

(lol, my dd has pics of her & Blondie on FB- Blondie is 55ish and not your typical 'dancer')

 

[mikeysmommom]

hmm interesting, someone posted on the FB page that air conditioners have not been removed or sold.

I read all the comments in the news
Someone posted quite a few the dad never paid child support and other comments that are untrue but make it seem like he was the cause of the being poor problem.But other posters then said well what about the dad in the home does he even work to support his GF and their 2 babies ,or was he a live in dead beat.

 

[Gypsy Road]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...tion-about-donald-james-smith-charged-cherish

"The Times-Union would like to talk with anyone who knows anything about Donald James Smith, 56, whom Jacksonville police have charged in the death of 8-year-old Cherish Perrywinkle.
Please contact reporter Jim Schoettler at 904-359-4385 (office) 904-338-1609 (cell)"

 

[AstroKitty]

oh no. that sounds like they suspect he's done it before. which i kinda thought myself as well. He's been escalating before he went to jail but to get out and instantly start trolling for kids to murder? He's had to have done it before to be this brazen.

What a terrible human Donald Smith is. If that's even a decent word to describe it. terrible seems almost too nice.

 

[necco]

That is probably why rp didn't marry him, cuz she didn't want to lose benefits. He is a boyfriend NOT a stepfather. If he is such a great father then why do his children not carry their father's name? I wonder if he is even listed on his 2 daughters birth certificates!!

Respectfully snipped.

While I am loath to defend the parents in this situation, children not having their father's last name is NO reflection on the kind of father a person is. Some people just don't do that as several of us have pointed out earlier.

 

[Solvegirl]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...tion-about-donald-james-smith-charged-cherish

"The Times-Union would like to talk with anyone who knows anything about Donald James Smith, 56, whom Jacksonville police have charged in the death of 8-year-old Cherish Perrywinkle.
Please contact reporter Jim Schoettler at 904-359-4385 (office) 904-338-1609 (cell)"

Very interesting..... I haven't seen anything much about his mother in MSM. I believe MSM/LE has documented that Defendant lived with her and the creepy van was registered to her? And is it known if he was married in the past and the duration of that?

 

[sreshowtime]

^ yeah it is oddly quiet.No one is speaking up, not even past ,(possible) victims. Except for that last one's mother. (mentioned in a brief article re those last charges)
According to public property records I believe the mother's home was purchased in 1991. Assuming that is his mother. I don't know if Smith was a married name at some point or if DJS has his father's name or what, as she has a different last name now.
I wonder if he had lived with her any previously. Another public source indicates Jax Beach & Atlantic Beach previously for her....I wonder if he was in those cities also, at some point.

I would really like to know if he has tried to pull this preying on moms with daughters stunt before- I sure hope if so , those women will step forward.

 

[crazyover88]

Respectfully snipped.

While I am loath to defend the parents in this situation, children not having their father's last name is NO reflection on the kind of father a person is. Some people just don't do that as several of us have pointed out earlier.

Just jumping from this post about this subject...I'm not sure if the youngest siblings were born here in Duval County but in Duval County if the mother and the father isn't married at the time of the childs birth the child/children take the mothers last name...They will NOT let you name the child the Fathers last name..Even if he is present at the time of birth..

You can go down to vital statistics at a later date and have it changed and him added to the birth certificate if he is also present..

 

[Solvegirl]

Looking at the JSO timeline it says something to the effect that victim's mother and siblings were being interviewed by homicide dets between 1 and 2 am after the kidnapping. (JSO explained that even though Cherish had not been found yet Homicide was involved). It would be interesting to see what RP's description of events was at that point. At this point her account has shifted around so much and been filtered through her bf and 'advocate'. That early detailed interview plus a fuller description of the store surveillance footage would be very very interesting I think.