FL FL - Clermont, WhtMale UP6030, 24-32, transgender, breast implants, Sep'88

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I bet so. I’ve been thinking she must be identified by now.

There are a few I'm especially hoping for with that announcement, one of them being Julie. Hopefully they get the go-ahead soon to do the announcements for all of them, after they get everything all squared away and all relatives notified, etc.!
 
There are a few I'm especially hoping for with that announcement, one of them being Julie. Hopefully they get the go-ahead soon to do the announcements for all of them, after they get everything all squared away and all relatives notified, etc.!
I think about Julie often! And of course several others. I hope their killers will also be identified and brought to justice.
 
Glad to hear that (even though I don't understand it), but dang, I was hoping she was ID'd and they were sitting on the announcement. I know DDP will solve it though!
According to DDP Julies highest match is now 161.2 CM!!

It's around third cousin, second cousin if lucky.

I share 287 cM with 1/2 great uncle (probably higher than average share)
OTOH, I only share 114 cM with one second cousin. (This low amt makes me go...hmmm...Ancestry says we're third cousins ), but I share whopping 357 cM with another second cousin from a different side of the family. (Ancestry says we're first cousins)

So, it's all luck about who they connect with....Third cousins are still tough because they involve 2nd great grandparents. Second cousins has better odds.


Is there endogamy involved? Were there second marriages or non-parental events resulting in half-siblings etc etc...Are family members doing genealogy?...How well does the state itself document vital records? Some states are good about records. Some are stingy with their records. It really is about luck.

Ventura County Jane Doe's closest match is 257 cM..but they say it is due to endogamy...
 
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It looks like Julie is still in active research, according to the DDP poster, she has ancestry from SouthEastern U.S.

This makes sense with the location. I wonder if she was from a smaller town in Florida or a surrounding southern state and moved to the Orlando area for her transition - I know others have mentioned this forever, but with confirmation that she has relatives from the southeast, you have to wonder.

Also, as others have theorized, I do have to wonder if she is of Cuban ancestry. Hopefully we get some info on that soon.

I'm glad DDP is still on the case! I was hoping she was one of the ones sitting on an announcement, but I know they'll crack the case. :)
 
From what I read they said she had undergone several cosmetic surgeries including breast implants and a nose job. And noted that gender reassignment surgeries in the 1980s were even more expensive than they are nowadays. Which today, a male to female gender reassignment surgery costs between $7,000 to $24,000. They are speculating she might have been an escort to have paid for all the surgeries.
Or possibly had the surgery in Canada back then.
 
This makes sense with the location. I wonder if she was from a smaller town in Florida or a surrounding southern state and moved to the Orlando area for her transition - I know others have mentioned this forever, but with confirmation that she has relatives from the southeast, you have to wonder.

Also, as others have theorized, I do have to wonder if she is of Cuban ancestry. Hopefully we get some info on that soon.

I'm glad DDP is still on the case! I was hoping she was one of the ones sitting on an announcement, but I know they'll crack the case. :)
I don’t think she is from Cuban ancestry, in addition to her genetic admixture, the DDP only said she is from southeast U.S. ancestry when in case of another Doe - Startex Jane Doe they said she is from Puerto Rican and SouthEast U.S. ancestry. I think if the DDP found that Julie has relatives/matches in Cuba, they will put it in her description, but it looks like she has no matches from there
 
Was the most recent Exclusions post an addendum (to previous Exclusions), or a full list?

NAMUS search for Missing Persons, missing from Florida, filtered, left me with around half a dozen MP somewhat fitting the description (for someone AMAB). These results are only including MP with available images at this time:

Ralph Hampton Miller

Paul Gregory Egan

Michael Olson

Gregory Robert Mitchell

Raymond Kenneth Drown

Adding:
Wilson Jay Mickler

John Thomas Degnan III
 
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A few without images:

Christopher J McCoy

Brian Lee Jones

Alan J Hirsch

Howard Duane Eggleston
 
Any victim of a violent crime deserves justice. For some, unfortunately, not only do they never receive that justice, but their identities often remain a mystery. This is the case for Julie Doe, a transgender woman whose identity has remained a mystery for over three decades.

While society at large may have generally come to accept the LGBTQ+ community, crimes against this group are still higher when compared to non-LGBTQ+ persons. Transgender victims in particular face an uphill battle due to mis-gendering and investigators' general lack of knowledge about LGBTQ+ issues. Julie's case has grabbed the attention of many around the country, yet who she was and what happened to her remains a mystery. Read on to find out what we do know about her.

On the Sunday morning of September 25, 1988, a man stopped in a wooded area close to Highway 474 in Lake County, FL, and went out looking for cypress wood to make furniture with. While searching for cypress, the man instead stumbled upon a gruesome discovery: human remains.

Judging by the clothes and hair, the remains seemingly belonged to a woman. Her body was severely decomposed, indicating it had been there for quite some time. Only a small amount of tissue was left on her body. Authorities believed she had been dead for at least a few months prior to the man's discovery. They were, however, still able to observe that she had long, manicured fingernails and long hair that had been dyed blonde.

She had no ID, purse, or wallet on her, resulting in her being labeled a Jane Doe. She was dressed in a long denim skirt, a blue-green tank top, and pantyhose that had been rolled down. Authorities suspected a sex crime may have taken place but were unable to verify their theory. They created a rough composite of what they believed the woman looked like in life and began searching for clues to the woman's identity.

The woman’s remains were sent to the C. A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory (CAPHIL) at the University of Florida for examination.Forensic anthropologist Dr. William Maples, who performed the examination, concluded that the woman was between the ages of 24 and 32 and had an athletic build, silicone breast implants, and a height of about 5’10.

The autopsy further revealed that she had previously suffered from multiple broken bones, including fractures to her nose, cheekbone, ribs, and a toe. Some of these breaks had healed by the time the woman died, but they did indicate that she sustained severe physical injury prior to death.

Despite all of the information obtained in the autopsy, the cause of death remained elusive. Investigators were only able to conclude that the body had been dragged to the location where it was found. This became one of the main reasons they suspected foul play - authorities presumed she had been moved away from the nearby highway in an attempt to conceal her body.

Investigators' attempts to locate any potential witnesses failed, and when no one came forward and no further evidence was found at the crime scene, the case went cold.


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That sketch is so haunting.
She had sustained many injuries in life per the healed fractures. It’s good to see the love and care on this thread that the decedent apparently didn’t receive in life.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
Or possibly had the surgery in Canada back then.
Plenty of places to have gone for surgery outside the US. For example Thailand was a world leader in fine-tuning available surgeries and an extremely popular place from the mid-80s until now for gender reassignment. It was/is significantly cheaper than western countries, after-care is outstanding and there is a much broader community acceptance of what, in Thai, is referred to as third sex.
 

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