GUILTY FL - Dan Markel, 41, FSU Law Professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 - #7 *arrests*

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Mariposa said:
I have a question. From sources like the podcast I thought the story was that DM and WA met on J Date. At that time she was in law school in Miami. She testified they met 2004 and wed in 2006 (I think it was February 2006). That that they lived in Tallahassee for the 2005-2006 academic year and then in Miami 2006-2007 year where Dan tried to get a job at that law school but it did not work out. Then back to Tallahassee.

So was Dan already a law professor at FSU when they met? If not why was he in Florida. Just wondering with all the discussion of her being a trailing spouse.
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Per this article, Dan Markel joined the FSU faculty in 2005.
Dan Markel Case: What You Need to Know
 
Weki said:
100% makes sense to me knowing what I know about narcissists. They will always make you out to be the out of control, unreasonable one while they provoke you incessantly. They are very good at convincing people they are the victim. Anything you say or do or don't say or don't do will be used against you. There was no way for him to win with her. She had to have everything her way. I believe that. And the proof is in his execution. He didn't follow along and the ultimate devaluing of another by a narcissist is to kill you.
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Wow. That gives me chills from personal experience. There was no way he was ever going to “win” ever because it’s all a game to these people (these being narcissists) and they will not give in at any point unless it benefits them. She was hellbent on destroying him and apparently she has 3 family members that didn’t try and reason with her but instead agreed and provoked her that she was right in her thinking.
 
justice1960 said:
I wonder what the exact time the TV repairman left her house. In my opinion... We will find that one out during her trial.
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It was stated earlier in the trial, but I did not capture it in my timeline. ???around 9:30
 
Weki said:
And did you all notice how she said "the state is not going to charge me" with so much certainty. Like, please, no one can touch me!

She knew!! She went home and cried to mommy and daddy and the brother was charged to make the bad man go away! I can't fathom for the life of me why KM is not throwing CA under the bus!! Garcia is going down. There's no question. Why not save herself for their kids?
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Reminds me of the infamous quote by Jodi Arias

""No jury is going to convict me ... because I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one -- no jury will convict me," Arias told the TV show "Inside Edition."
 
So who is this Dr. De Le Cruz (sp???) who is going to be called by the defense?

The judge hasn't yet ruled if he can be called or not, but said the defense can fly him in from the west coast by Monday because they've already paid him a ton of money, so what's a little more? He also advised the defense that if this Dr. is going to testify that Latin Kings only do crimes with/for other Latin Kings, the State will be allowed to call LR back to ask HIM about that and what other crimes he's done with SG.
 
FreddyG said:
These points are true but there's a lot more. Dan stuck Wendi with most of the child care, including being gone at conferences and other events on the regular. I think like many successful men he just assumed that's how marriages work; husbands go out and work and succeed, and wives carry more of the domestic load. Keep in mind that when she published her book (admittedly a low-quality snipe job about Dan and her life) he didn't even read it, because he didn't like fiction. Totally consistent with his being egotistical and clueless about how to treat a spouse decently.

That said, her whole "Danny hurt me" thing is BS. He never was ever physically violent with her, and her intimations to the contrary are totally disingenuous and misleading. They just had a bad relationship, and the fault for that was shared, as it usually is. Might more of the fault have been Dan's? Maybe, but I don't really know and the truth is none of us do.

What I'm saying is, Dan was no saint. He could be arrogant, callous, and totally clueless about how his behavior affected people. I can see why Wendi would want to divorce him. That, however, is where it ends. Her outsized resentment and the emotional violence with which she went about the divorce were totally out of line. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, she and her family became consumed with bitterness toward him, and it ended up destroying lives. We all have bad things happen, but the lesson I take away from this is to just move on, put it in the past, and live a happy life. If you let resentment ripen into hate, it might consume you. It certainly consumed the Adelsons, and look what happened.
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Your post reminds me of the Watts case soooooo much! Reverse gender, but never the less, reminded me of such.

Yet, with this case, the children were not murdered and there was not a family annihilation.

But otherwise, so many similarities that you mentioned in your post that reminded me of the Shannan - Christopher Watts case.
 
TTF14 said:
So who is this Dr. De Le Cruz (sp???) who is going to be called by the defense?

The judge hasn't yet ruled if he can be called or not, but said the defense can fly him in from the west coast by Monday because they've already paid him a ton of money, so what's a little more? He also advised the defense that if this Dr. is going to testify that Latin Kings only do crimes with/for other Latin Kings, the State will be allowed to call LR back to ask HIM about that and what other crimes he's done with SG.
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BBM.

I love this judge!! LOL. OMG, he puts the attys through the paces. He told one earlier, "come on" like stop wasting time, get moving! I've never seen a judge hustle attys like this during trial in front of the jury. I'm sure the jury appreciate it though - I know I would.

My read on the bolded is that judge is saying if you want to slide in some irrelevant stuff to discredit Rivera I will allow state to discredit your client. Which is fair game in these accomplice situations because it's one's word against another.
 
TTF14 said:
So who is this Dr. De Le Cruz (sp???) who is going to be called by the defense?

The judge hasn't yet ruled if he can be called or not, but said the defense can fly him in from the west coast by Monday because they've already paid him a ton of money, so what's a little more? He also advised the defense that if this Dr. is going to testify that Latin Kings only do crimes with/for other Latin Kings, the State will be allowed to call LR back to ask HIM about that and what other crimes he's done with SG.
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Thinking it is this guy.
Dr. Jesse De La Cruz | Court Qualified Gang Expert
"My Goal
My goal as a gang consultant/expert witness in gang cases is to provide defense attorneys, prosecutors, judges, and juries insight into the secretive world of gangs so that justice is meted out equitably. My motivation for this type of work is guided by my extensive prior involvement in both street/prison gangs and by the injustices I have witnessed in our judicial system stemming from societies ignorance concerning the gang phenomena. I have had the misfortune of witnessing men killed because they were wrongfully labeled gang members by law/prison authorities. I have seen gang enhancement charges filed against individuals indiscriminately based more on ethnicity rather than on actual evidence."
 
Marysmith said:
Funny how KM’s paycheques stopped just before SG’s arrest...
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Closing arguments are going to be very interesting!

I hope the prosecution lawyers talk very very very slowly so that the jurors will get all the important dates.

I have to watch stuff two or three times to catch it, I can't imagine being a juror. Especially with all the financial and phone stuff that is being shown. I would be in the Jury Room asking for a YouTube feed to relook at stuff LOL
 
FreddyG said:
As for her job at FSU, Wendi was what's known in legal academia as a "trailing spouse." Basically, Dan got a job at FSU and to convince him to come, FSU offered her one too. But what they offered her not the same echelon of job that they offered him, a tenure-track (TT) position. Rather, it was an NTT (non tenure track) position as the director of an immigration clinic.

That said, NTT jobs are generally considered lower status because (1) they get paid less, (2) they do not come with the promise of lifetime job security (tenure), and (3) they are generally easier to get so not considered as prestigious. So yes, the lower-status thing was a constant point of resentment for her, as was the "trailing spouse" thing.

And it seems to have rankled her that she was doing work that she had to take in order to facilitate Dan's job, even if it was work she enjoyed on some level.
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All what have been said to date about the events leading to the Wendi Adelson and Dan Markel’s divorce, the bitterness of how the in-laws Adelsons communicated with the person they called “Jibber”, the efforts to separate “Jibber” from his kids and eventually getting the kids to Miami, … to the point when “Jibber” is “erased” … also said assassinated …, and the name Markel is erased … also said changed … from the civil records of his children, … these events are terrible stories, recounted and embellished mostly by Wendi Adelson.

Dan Markel is too dead to speak in his defense.

When the reckoning of facts comes for Wendi Adelson, if it came at all, she will have to go to Canossa. Friends and relatives of Dan Markel will be availed the opportunity to tell his truth about the events leading to his divorce.

Then, the attention grabbing TV stories such as “to buy you a TV as a birthday present rather than hiring a hitman”, and “the birthday TV was repaired by a TV repairman when “bad” things happened” will look ridiculous. If they were Sicilians, this is telling: a) you have a stone in your shoe (you need a TV); then b) someone is sent to remove the stone that is bothering you (the TV is repaired).
 
Weki said:
Ahhhh yes I remember now....the "trailing spouse" situation. So were her job prospects in Miami all that great before she followed him to Tallahassee? I guess she would've made more money working in a corporate law firm with the possibility of a partnership. That track could be considered more prestigious than managing an immigration clinic. Not sure how skilled she is as an attorney.

I can definitely understand being resentful that your husband's career comes first and will direct your life choices. I would NOT be happy in that kind of situation either. I can't lie.

ETA: Just to be clear. I'm just curious about what their marriage was like. There's no bothsidism in this situation imo. And I still maintain that she's character assassinated him in all of this. No question!
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Aside from all of this - it seems Wendi wasn’t ever truly happy with the marriage from the get go. Remember her friend saying she wanted to call it off? And then even Wendi says in her podcast that she thought she “could cheat the system and marry someone she lacked passionate love for”. The marriage, IMHO, was doomed from the beginning. I think Dan was completely in love with her - passionately and otherwise. It also seems that Dan was an old fashioned guy (much like my father) who assumed that Wendy would be ok with the sacrifices one must make in order for a marriage to thrive. Maybe it wasn’t a case of not seeing her as an equal, but that he was old fashioned in the sense that he thought the woman/wife was to be the primary caretaker of the children and household and that the husband was to be the breadwinner. Marriage is a give and take, but Wendi seemed to not be satisfied with the situation and choice she made to agree to move and settle in Tallahassee with Dan. Did she try to make the best of that decision? Did she accept the reality of her life? Did Wendi ever try to find employment on her own with a law firm outside of FSU? My guess is no, or if she did - no one wanted to hire her for whatever reason. What a sad tragedy Dan’s murder was. I don’t care if he was egotistical, opinionated, rude, abrasive, blunt, and all the other negative things that have been said about him. He in no way deserved to be slaughtered because his wife was a spoiled brat who wanted her way and to move to Miami. She made the choice to move and have children in Tallahassee with Dan. Some choices you must learn to live with and learn to make the best of them. Because of her - Dan is dead, and 2 little boys are without their daddy. Dan’s family and countless people are suffering because Wendi wanted her way.
 
Anybody catch the date on this?


"He invited me to go deep sea fishing. He was so nice."- a text Adelson sent Magbanua after she asked if Garcia called him. #MarkelMurderTrialWTXL @abc27
 
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