1. the ATM pic and bus video (immediately following the murder) clearly shows that LR was the driver and SG was the shooter. the trigger man is never the wheel man (get away driver). regardless of who pulled the trigger, they both are principals. if i'm a juror, i can hang my hat on the ATM pic, bus video, and cell records alone.
2. the money spike, code talk, and no-show job sink KM for me. if i'm a juror, i can hang my hat on those 3 pieces alone.
Can you be a principal to premeditation if you don't premeditate it yourself?
Well said. I also think people tend to forget that LR, who was there and has admitted his culpability, directly and specifically testified as to all the elements of 1st degree murder on the part of KM and SG. His testimony, IMHO, is the most powerful evidence in the case and would be sufficient standing alone to support conviction of both.1. the ATM pic and bus video (immediately following the murder) clearly shows that LR was the driver and SG was the shooter. the trigger man is never the wheel man (get away driver). regardless of who pulled the trigger, they both are principals. if i'm a juror, i can hang my hat on the ATM pic, bus video, and cell records alone.
2. the money spike, code talk, and no-show job sink KM for me. if i'm a juror, i can hang my hat on those 3 pieces alone.
it appears they are figuring out 1st or second degree
I am not concerned over this question. It sounds like the jurors are down in the weeds trying to agree upon what the legal elements of each crime are. This is actually quite typical of jurors who wish to fulfill their duty and, as laypersons, are wrestling with legal concepts unfamiliar to them. Also, don't lose sight of the fact that the judge's instructions provide pathways to conviction independently. We don't know how the jury is interpreting the facts with respect to conspiracy, for instance. I have faith that this jury will come to the correct decision.I DO NOT like this question! Is the jury thinking that LR was the shooter and SG just went a long for the ride thinking they were going to commit a robbery? If so, this could be good news for KM because that would imply LR conspired directly with the alleged masterminds - which seems implausible given the evidence and absence of evidence!
Ok you are right! I am just on edge here! Thank you.^^this question makes me feel a bit better.
You’re right - my bad. Thank you!Yes, but it makes me think the jury definitely thinks KM/SG have culpability.
I am not concerned over this question. It sounds like the jurors are down in the weeds trying to agree upon what the legal elements of each crime are. This is actually quite typical of jurors who wish to fulfill their duty and, as laypersons, are wrestling with legal concepts unfamiliar to them. Also, don't lose sight of the fact that the judge's instructions provide pathways to conviction independently. We don't know how the jury is interpreting the facts with respect to conspiracy, for instance. I have faith that this jury will come to the correct decision.
1. the ATM pic and bus video (immediately following the murder) clearly shows that LR was the driver and SG was the shooter.
Kind of weird seeing everyone smiling making pleasantries as the defendants get 'buckled' up.
Maybe SG should not have worn the white t and shirt under the jacket, reminds me of the shooter in the car..
Did i imagine that KM is wearing an engagement/wedding band?
speculation, imo.
Maybe they both got out of the car in the driveway.
I saw a band on her left ring finger, and her left middle finger the other day.
1. the bus video was captured minutes after the shooting.
2. KM's huge money spike implicates SG. if LR conspired directly with the alleged masterminds, KM would not have collected $30K+. KM solicited SG.
3. if LR was hired by the alleged masterminds, why not flip on them directly?
it goes on and on...
Maybe Charlie proposed to prevent her testifying against him? LOL
Did anyone catch GC saying yesterday in closing re JU's testimony something like, Bless her heart...it was like pulling teeth....She may be is in love with Charlie again