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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the judge hasn’t yet given the jury an Allen charge?
Not yet
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the judge hasn’t yet given the jury an Allen charge?
Except for this:
Karl Etters
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Hankinson also isn't one to go for a hung jury after 8 hours of deliberation. He'll tell them to keep working
This is sooo frustrating.So they could think that there isn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Katie was involved pre-murder. The evidence against Katie is post-murder. The money and the wiretaps. Idk. I'm just trying to think where they could be hung up on. But I'm already putting this jury on my s*** list. They had one job to do! Come on. This was easy!
Every time there is a knock on the court door, this song comes to mind!
They say that in closing argument the prosecution is supposed to explain to the jury how they think a conviction is warranted when the facts are applied to the law. Did GC do this?? Or did she just paint with a broad brush? I didn't hear her whole closing, but sometimes she can be very general. JMO.
But still... I honestly don’t get this.They say that in closing argument the prosecution is supposed to explain to the jury how they think a conviction is warranted when the facts are applied to the law. Did GC do this?? Or did she just paint with a broad brush? I didn't hear her whole closing, but sometimes she can be very general. JMO.
reminding me of the CA trial - that jury gave up too IMO.This jury doesn't want to be sequestered and deliberate over the weekend and they're going to give up early so they can go home!
They say that in closing argument the prosecution is supposed to explain to the jury how they think a conviction is warranted when the facts are applied to the law. Did GC do this?? Or did she just paint with a broad brush? I didn't hear her whole closing, but sometimes she can be very general. JMO.
I know right ?? They drove almost four hours for a supposed drug deal but ended up in the driveway of the man the Adelsons hated with a passion.Zangeneh finally makes a good point. Based on previous questions, the jury seems to suggest with their questions that the plan was different than what was committed. Where the heck are they getting that idea from though?
She didn't. This is one of the things her closing was lacking. She rambled on too long about the Adelsons. I understand why she had to tie it all together with them but she needed to rehearse and make that closing tight. She was not organized and clearly not rehearsed. That was a big mistake on such a confusing case with two defendants. She barely tied facts to the law.
eta: you hit the nail on the head. This jury's confusion is GC's fault! No doubt.
Omg. Brings back the absolute shock of the verdicts with that case. Although I do think murder 1 was an overreach.reminding me of the CA trial - that jury gave up too IMO.
Yes, she seemed blasee. JMO.I was PO'd when she said something about not caring how much time she'd have left for rebuttal.
I was PO'd when she said something about not caring how much time she'd have left for rebuttal.