turaj
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they are going to deliver something tonight or they would be going home.Yeah, they're not going to deliver a verdict this late in the day, surely?
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they are going to deliver something tonight or they would be going home.Yeah, they're not going to deliver a verdict this late in the day, surely?
I like the way you thinkthey are going to deliver something tonight or they would be going home.
IMO they would’ve never asked for that if they didn’t feel the jury may come back hung or NG.Are you kidding me jury?????? Ugh ugh ugh. Why does state want the Allen charge read already? Let them go home and come back fresh tomorrow. There hasn’t been enough time to throw in the towel. They’re tired. It’s been a long day. It sounds like they didn’t know they could say we want to be done for the day.
JMO
It sounds like it’s his preference to let jurors set their own schedule. It’s punishing to his staff and I’m not sure how smart it is to let a tired jury that wants it over with make such an important decision this late in the day.Can the judge not set a limit of say 10pm?
She was ready and waiting for him. JMOOlol @ the pics of Jiff on the pantry shelf along with the gun
It does seem to indicate the state is nervous. They have a great case and I’m not liking their own undermining of their own case. Geez.IMO they would’ve never asked for that if they didn’t feel the jury may come back hung or NG.
Universal charge the judge gives the jury telling them they are as well equipped to decide this case as anyone and to put their personal preferences aside and reach a verdictAllen charge? Pls enlighten us!
I don't think it is smart at all. The impression the judge gave is that being unable to agree is not acceptable...no other encouragement etc. They now want to go home and are in there and if they come back with anything other than hung I don't trust the verdict. Since he did not give Allen is he going to do that at this hour if they come back again?It sounds like it’s his preference to let jurors set their own schedule. It’s punishing to his staff and I’m not sure how smart it is to let a tired jury that wants it over with make such an important decision this late in the day.
great explanationUniversal charge the judge gives the jury telling them they are as well equipped to decide this case as anyone and to put their personal preferences aside and reach a verdict
6 hours of deliberation is not that long. they should go home and hit it again tomorrow.I don't think it is smart at all. The impression the judge gave is that being unable to agree is not acceptable...no other encouragement etc. They now want to go home and are in there and if they come back with anything other than hung I don't trust the verdict.
And IIUC once that direction (or charge / instruction) is given, the jury can only be sent back one (last) time with that charge. And if they return and indicate still hung, it is concluded. Mistrial is declared I believe. IANAL. MOOgreat explanation
Cathy Russom is predicting they will come back and say they’re hung. They don’t know the Allen charge is coming if they do that. They prob think he’s going to declare a mistrial if they come back a 2nd time saying they’re deadlocked. I think if they don’t reach a verdict today. They’re coming back tomorrow after Allen charge is read.I don't think it is smart at all. The impression the judge gave is that being unable to agree is not acceptable...no other encouragement etc. They now want to go home and are in there and if they come back with anything other than hung I don't trust the verdict. Since he did not give Allen is he going to do that at this hour if they come back again?
And IIUC once that direction (or charge / instruction) is given, the jury can only be sent back one (last) time with that charge. And if they return and indicate still hung, it is concluded. Mistrial declared I believe. IANAL. MOO
I don’t disagree. And stated IANAL. What is the rule in FL? Anyone here that could definitively help? TIA. MOOThat was the rule in Massachusetts. It isn't necessarily true that it applies to Florida.
This trial was fast moving. I don't get why coming back fresh tomorrow is not a good option. Court has a full staff just waiting now. I think they are well within the time the court said the trial would take.Cathy Russom is predicting they will come back and say they’re hung. They don’t know the Allen charge is coming if they do that. They prob think he’s going to declare a mistrial if they come back a 2nd time saying they’re deadlocked. I think if they don’t reach a verdict today. They’re coming back tomorrow after Allen charge is read.