GUILTY FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015 - #3

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Wonder where Ebron was and what he was doing between 7pm.-2.20am? Or was it 8.30pm-2.20am? Who else saw Lonzie alive and ok. from the time he dropped LL at work until Lonzie was reported as a missing child? Who was the other person in the car when he drove his g/f to work and did they see the kids in the car? It's all very sketchy IMO.
 
brighidin said:
To my knowledge, they haven't told the public what that piece of evidence is. We have discussed the car seat previously, but it is kind of a murky topic. In some of the earlier articles, a car seat is mentioned as being in the car, but we don't know what kind, or for what age of child, or where in the car it was found. I don't think a car seat is the piece of evidence, but you never know.



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I'm thinking it may have been something of Lonzie's?
 
Eileen730 said:
Was the car still running when they found it?
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Don't know? I can't recall reading anything about that either, just that LE found the vehicle 15-20 mins. and 4 blocks away after they got there.
 
How was Ebron making money for gas, rent, laundry, tattoos, wedding bands? Was he still selling drugs? Was his gf paying for everything?

BTW, the shopping for wedding bands comment made me LOL, since she is still married, her husband still refers to her as his wife. Another dig at Lonzie's dad IMO. Also, this tattoo, hugging and wedding band shopping is making Lonna look bad right now. She hasn't made any of these statements herself. JMO
 
Yes. A person who lived on the street where it was found said the police told him it was running, but it had a very quiet engine.
 
matou said:
How was Ebron making money for gas, rent, laundry, tattoos, wedding bands? Was he still selling drugs? Was his gf paying for everything?

BTW, the shopping for wedding bands comment made me LOL, since she is still married, her husband still refers to her as his wife. Another dig at Lonzie's dad IMO. Also, this tattoo, hugging and wedding band shopping is making Lonna look bad right now. She hasn't made any of these statements herself. JMO
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Exactly. The E family is doing its very best to throw the Barton family under the bus.

As for money, when he was arrested in May, he was found with meth, heroin, coke, ecstasy, and a few hundred dollars in his wallet. Sounds like a dealer to me. Their rent was around $250 I believe and if Lonna was working at Wacko's occasionally, I'm sure they were able to get the money for rent and food.

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I think it is possible that a highly trained specialist (or more than 1) has gently "interviewed" Lonzie's sister.
They'd probably have to get permission from the mom, but she could have, with the passage of time, undergone a form of hypnotism to retrieve info that is in her little head. She isn't aware it's there. But the mind, when conscious, is always recording.
They would have to be extremely qualified and excellent so as to only review what's in her mind and not implant or guide her into false memories.
It's also a matter of what this traumatized girl saw or was privy to. She is only five, but a five year old, once given the time to calm down and be comforted, can give a wealth of details.
jmho
 
This is so sad the searching has been scaled back or stopped.Are they doing any more searches? Is anyone else going to?
 
Karinna said:
Wonder where Ebron was and what he was doing between 7pm.-2.20am? Or was it 8.30pm-2.20am? Who else saw Lonzie alive and ok. from the time he dropped LL at work until Lonzie was reported as a missing child? Who was the other person in the car when he drove his g/f to work and did they see the kids in the car? It's all very sketchy IMO.
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The third person has never been verified. The manager of Wacko's gave surveillance video to the police. He then blabbed about what he saw on that video. He said he saw Lonna get out of the driver's seat and WRE go around to get in the drivers seat. He also said it looked like there was a 3rd person in the car. IMO this is the only info we have regarding a possible third person. It could have been the sister, Elvis, a friend, a shadow. We just don't know. IMO.

Skully said:
All good points about the water. That is why I don't think he put him in water like a pond. I am counting on him being a coward, afraid of gators and snakes and being seen. The bins are more likely or like I said before, a long drive down a secluded road, and he just tucked him in with the thickets and trees, hoping no one will find him.
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I agree. I think he is cocky and a coward, if that makes sense. In terms of getting rid of Lonzie, he either used dumpster or hastily covered the body a bit off the road. Maybe in a garbage bag off the side of a road?

jaroba07 said:
I agree with your line of thinking.

Hackney has been pretty tight lipped about the sister and what/if anything she has said has contributed to the case. My opinion is that the sister was the "source" that wasn't really credible but had to be listened to.

They were quick to say WRE was a liar when this all happened. I think they based that off of more than just his story about the car theft/abduction being found not to be true.
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I agree with you about their assessment of WRE. I don't know that Hackney would use that language to discuss a 5 year old girl. The few times he talked about her, he said she was tired and that they had people working with her. That is very different from the 'we have to listen to someone who we don't think is credible.' In my opinion, that is the roommate or possibly one of their friends who frequented that apartment. Who knows though.

A thought just occurred to me: Doesn't Florida have the Sunshine Law? Shouldn't we be getting info dumps like in the Casey Anthony saga?
 
matou said:
How was Ebron making money for gas, rent, laundry, tattoos, wedding bands? Was he still selling drugs? Was his gf paying for everything?

BTW, the shopping for wedding bands comment made me LOL, since she is still married, her husband still refers to her as his wife. Another dig at Lonzie's dad IMO. Also, this tattoo, hugging and wedding band shopping is making Lonna look bad right now. She hasn't made any of these statements herself. JMO
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Maybe they are following in Ronald and Mistys handbook. Marry her she cant talk!
 
Eileen730 said:
Maybe they are following in Ronald and Mistys handbook. Marry her she cant talk!
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JMO but I think that was just a throw it out to the public type of statement to make it look like they were so in love they were getting tattoos, rings, and were gonna get married. Just trying to make him look like the hero taking on a woman with two kids, what a nice guy surely he couldn't have done anything to the baby. (snark, snark).

I think the families are following that handbook too, but in the opposite direction: like on how to not be in the spotlight with the media coverage.
 
Skully said:
That made me laugh. The one phrase I haven't heard is "I waz at werk"
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LOL

The same thing will happen here, if they cant get them for the death of the baby they will get them for something else!
 
the people he would be dealing with are lower level. it wouldnt be like cartels. they would beat up or kill WRE not take on a baby.

Karinna said:
I was just speculating about it and don't really know what lengths druggies go to when they want to teach someone a lesson, and if high on drugs they are not operating on a normal and rational level, but they do some pretty nasty stuff from what i have heard and read. It may or may not be out of the realm of possibilities? This case makes me think of Haleigh Cummings.
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cvaldez1975 said:
the people he would be dealing with are lower level. it wouldnt be like cartels. they would beat up or kill WRE not take on a baby.
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I don't think we really know for sure who Ebron was dealing with & what they are capable of when they are into heavy drugs. As i said before, they are functioning on an entirely different level to "normal", and not thinking straight, JMO.
 
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