GUILTY FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015 - #3

[Kairi'sMom]

Ebron probably had his "dead body stash area" in mind long before he met Lonzie. Remember, he has a history of threatening to disappear other people...He thinks he's so smart and knows the system, and Hackney said he is clever. He is a calculating, manipulative criminal, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's had a plan in mind for years "just in case" he ever needed it.

 

[Karinna]

Here is one such case in Australia, and thankfully the little girl was found alive:

(Quote):
Abducted three-year-old Chloe Campbell could have been taken over 'father's drug debts'

DNA samples have been taken from more than 20 people as Australian police look into the possibility that Chloe Campbell could have been abducted over her father's alleged drug debt.
The three-year-old disappeared from her home last Thursday before being found by police at a nearby showground shortly after midnight on Saturday morning local time.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/469783/Young-girl-Chloe-Campbell-abducted

 

[bwt42]

The most invisible mom in a missing child case is................

 

[matou]

I think Lonzie's death wasn't planned and was likely out of anger or negligence. He was coked up, wired, with 2 kids and it started storming. Where would he go to dump his body? Somewhere he knows, is familiar with OR some easy place nearby because he just wanted to do more coke. He parked his car so close by and was able to walk back to the apartment easily.

How long can a car keep running while parked? How much gas did he buy earlier? Any fires reported earlier that day?

 

[4senthia]

100% agree with your post.
It was preplanned and a place was ready.
Just like in the Olten case. But not for the thrill. For the aggravation the littlest one was causing him and his "business" ventures.
jmho

 

[jaroba07]

You know, one thing that I cannot get off of my mind is there is not one person that can account for seeing Lonzie alive and well that day or the few days prior. Who knows, it could of been planned. It could of happened earlier than we believe. I don't know, honestly, I'm just throwing ideas out there.

I do believe that Hackney and JSO would already have all this information if it were true and we would have a totally different timeline of the hours he is interested in seeing video tape footage.

I just really, really, really would love to hear from someone that they had seen Lonzie, talked to Lonzie or been around Lonzie on that day.

Has it been mentioned how long it had been since Lonzie's Dad CB was able to last see him?

Also, I seen this facebook page today...Volunteers for Lonzie Barton...some local people have been searching and they are working on putting/handing out flyers.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/808451539273609/?fref=nf

 

[QueenD]

On my phone at lunch,pardon for any typo. Not sure if this has anything to do with case but I just seen an unmarked Jso car turn into the closed land field. The one they were reported at last week.

 

[Tssiemer]

Well he obviously had the 5 year old with him when he dumped Lonzie. I think it lies in the between where he car was found and home.


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[matou]

I find it interesting as well that no one has mentioned how Lonzie was that day. All we know is he was "sleeping" and only wearing a diaper when he disappeared. What else did he do? Was there a diaper bag in the car? Any toys or stuffy for him while he was sleeping? Bottle? Sippy cup? What did he eat that day/night?

 

[SCHMAE]

Find Lonzie !

 

[Kairi'sMom]

If I was 25 years old again, and my baby disappeared in similar circumstances, and LE shared with me that they were positive they had the perpetrator in custody, and they shared with me WHY they believed so...

And if, because of a family link to another high profile child missing case, going public might do more harm to the case against him, especially, if I was CONVINCED he did it...

I wouldn't go public either. I would cooperate with LE, stay low so the media focus stays on LE's statments only, and not give the media, or his defense side ANY room to pin it on me or my family.

If I felt there was no point in going public because the perpetrator is already caught...I wouldn't do it. I'm camera shy, I don't handle unfamiliar people questioning me very well at all, and I would be very afraid of saying too much, or being misinterpreted. Especially if I were sure my child was dead, I just wouldn't want to be anywhere near media, cameras, and drama. I would be too busy taking care of my daughter while grieving the loss of my baby, and I wouldn't care what anyone thought. But that's just me...

I am bothered by Lonna not being interviewed yet, but I can see a scenario where she may not want to talk or perhaps she has been advised that it is the best thing she could do for now.

Just a thought and JMO

 

[brighidin]

I think Lonzie's death wasn't planned and was likely out of anger or negligence. He was coked up, wired, with 2 kids and it started storming. Where would he go to dump his body? Somewhere he knows, is familiar with OR some easy place nearby because he just wanted to do more coke. He parked his car so close by and was able to walk back to the apartment easily.

How long can a car keep running while parked? How much gas did he buy earlier? Any fires reported earlier that day?

Absolutely. Coked, up, angry and dealing with two young children is an apt description. Not a good combo considering he had skipped out on a court date two days previously.

ETA: I think whatever happened happened before or just after he was at the Kangaroo gas station at 12:33. I think he got gas at that point because it was then that WRE hatched his 'carjacking' plan. He obviously didn't expect the car to be found so quickly though.

IMO, the roommate saw Lonzie that day. If not, then the public timeline would be adjusted accordingly. IMO

Since he's being help on child neglect charges NOT related to this case, he obviously doesn't have a problem neglecting to look after children under his care.

Can someone who lives in Florida tell us if the Sunshine Law is still in effect?

 

[Dr. Know?]

From WJXT4 Tarik Minor: We're looking into whether the State Attorney's Office can prosecute Ruben Ebron without recovering Lonzie.




https://www.facebook.com/WJXT4TheLocalStation?fref=nf

I guess the reporters forget that Casey Anthony was charged with murder before Caylee was found. There's other cases that have been tried without a body in FL. Here's a link to no body cases with the state listed. FL has several, even before Casey A.

I hope they prosecute the heck out of Ebron too!

http://www.nobodymurdercases.com/no_body2.pdf

 

[QueenD]

[video=twitter;628258829118111744]https://twitter.com/actionnewsjax/status/628258829118111744[/video]
@jennaANjax: Body found near Arlingwood Park. #JSO on scene. Working on more details. #ANjaxBreaking http://t.co/fy7EjlSlJO

Surely this isn't little Lonzie, don't see no one else reporting.




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[QueenD]

Absolutely. Coked, up, angry and dealing with two young children is an apt description. Not a good combo considering he had skipped out on a court date two days previously.

ETA: I think whatever happened happened before or just after he was at the Kangaroo gas station at 12:33. I think he got gas at that point because it was then that WRE hatched his 'carjacking' plan. He obviously didn't expect the car to be found so quickly though.

IMO, the roommate saw Lonzie that day. If not, then the public timeline would be adjusted accordingly. IMO

Since he's being help on child neglect charges NOT related to this case, he obviously doesn't have a problem neglecting to look after children under his care.

Can someone who lives in Florida tell us if the Sunshine Law is still in effect?

Yup, sunshine law still here unless they seal the doc's.





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[Kairi'sMom]

Can someone who lives in Florida tell us if the Sunshine Law is still in effect?

Yes.
http://myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/DC0B20B7DC22B7418525791B006A54E4

 

[brighidin]

[video=twitter;628258829118111744]https://twitter.com/actionnewsjax/status/628258829118111744[/video]
@jennaANjax: Body found near Arlingwood Park. #JSO on scene. Working on more details. #ANjaxBreaking http://t.co/fy7EjlSlJO

Surely this isn't little Lonzie, don't see no one else reporting.




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Thanks QueenD. Where is that, in relation to where they have been searching. There is a 45 year old woman who is missing as well in Jax, so it shouldn't be hard to figure out if it is Lonzie.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Jenna Bourne ‏@jennaANjax · 5m5 minutes ago
Expecting details on body found near Arlingwood Park at 2:20. #anjaxbreaking

https://twitter.com/jennaANjax/with_replies

eta, from this tweet earlier it sounds like it is someone else.

Jenna Bourne ‏@jennaANjax · 56m56 minutes ago
On my way to "undetermined death" in Arlington. Working to get more info for you from #JSO. #ANjaxBreaking

 

[Kairi'sMom]

[video=twitter;628258829118111744]https://twitter.com/actionnewsjax/status/628258829118111744[/video]
@jennaANjax: Body found near Arlingwood Park. #JSO on scene. Working on more details. #ANjaxBreaking http://t.co/fy7EjlSlJO

Surely this isn't little Lonzie, don't see no one else reporting.




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Oh no, that might be missing woman, Heather Louise Hester. She disappeared in that area. Arlington, that is.
We have a WS page for her started today.

 

[brighidin]

Oh no, that might be missing woman, Heather Louise Hester. She disappeared in that area. Arlington, that is.
We have a WS page for her started today.

I was just looking at that thread. Sounds like it is the right area. Sad.