Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #11

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True, but I think some are coming to that conclusion because it mentions 'work'. To me, that could be 'school work'. Now if it has said 'my job'... then I'd absolutely think it was likely JS and not Maddie. JMO
and why was it in maddis area in the L/R? even if JS wrote it. Like Ms didnt have any space that was just hers.
 
and why was it in maddis area in the L/R? even if JS wrote it. Like Ms didnt have any space that was just hers.
I'm in agreement with you that Maddie wrote it. I was responding to posters that think it wasn't her due to the word "work".
 
I am not sure who wrote the trauma response perpetrator page of notebook paper. If it was MS, I wonder about the work reference and the perpetrator reference. also interesting to me that it appeared to be out in plain view in MS's little corner of the living room area.

If MS wrote it and it was left out in plain view of anyone passing near, was this a cry for help? intriguing. MOO
 
I think jS easily could have killed her daughter. It could be as simple as MS not agreeing to sleep with SS imo. Per the police interviews I posted thread via a link to grey Hughes, grandma noted Ms was crying and didn’t want to go somewhere. Imagine if MS started to cry and refuse to go to bed with SS? jS was all about herself and her need for sleep so… that may have been all it took to set off JS. She could then have become angry, grabbed MS by the throat and, “That was it” (JS many times in various statements to Le or media).

I see no reason for SS to have killed her. None. She was an easy victim in that mum didn’t give a damn what happened so long as she got to sleep.

Mooo. Speculation only.
While im on the fench. I do wonder how that conversation would play out.
Maddie was 13 years old. We know she was struggling. How did she react when JS told them she needed some good sleep and could not handle Maddie in her space, and told them to go sleep together upstairs. Did they ask her what she wanted?

She was very vocal at her grandparents house that she did not want to go home and was even crying and very upset.
What are the odds that Maddie was timid and compliant and just went with it without saying anything.

Jmo and speculation
 
and why was it in maddis area in the L/R? even if JS wrote it. Like Ms didnt have any space that was just hers.
It really could've been anywhere in that vicinity where it was photographed, not necessarily exactly where we see it. LE found it somewhere in the residence, flipped thru it, and found these pages of interest to them, then laid them out in a convenient place nearby and photo'd them for evidence. So it could be a notebook that JS used normally, that maybe ended up in the living room, or one that both of them used, or JS could've used it while watching TV in the lvg room , or whatever. *(See below for personal anecdote I'll add at the end.)

I do think the penmanship and the vocabulary and the (correct) spelling, etc. all indicate an adult wrote it, and I assume it was JS. If that's true, then what would she have been referring to when she said "my perpetrator"? Some past incidence of abuse by some unknown male apparently? Unknown to us, I mean. Something that was either recent enough or traumatic enough that she was still currently dealing with it and trying to work through it somehow.

*Re: LE moving personal items around during a search

I was at someone's home visiting once, when police came to the door w/a warrant for someone who sometimes stayed there (but was not there at the time) along with a search warrant for the residence. After an excessive amount of hassle (imo), which included handcuffing us and searching us and interrogating us and threatening us with jail, they finally released us and ordered us to leave the place and not come back for 4 hours, so they could search.

We left (gratefully) and came back late that night to a home turned absolutely upside down. Trash cans emptied onto the floor, including one in the kitchen w/coffee grounds, etc. Mattresses upended. Drawers dumped and more.

But I remember seeing her address book lying on the kitchen counter, opened up. My friend said she wouldn't have put it there. I assume they had taken photos of the pages. There was also a brand new desktop computer, still in its box, and the outside of the box had bits of wrapping paper still stuck to it, because it had been a Christmas present from her parents, and she hadn't set it up yet. On top of the box was a piece of paper with the serial number of the computer written on it. The cops had obviously written it down to check the number to see if it was stolen property. Even though it was obviously a gift w/the wrapping paper still stuck to it.

That last part is irrelevant to the discussion, sorry!

But I thought the part about them moving her address book to photograph it was relevant!
 
I am not sure who wrote the trauma response perpetrator page of notebook paper. If it was MS, I wonder about the work reference and the perpetrator reference. also interesting to me that it appeared to be out in plain view in MS's little corner of the living room area.

If MS wrote it and it was left out in plain view of anyone passing near, was this a cry for help? intriguing. MOO
Same, Im not sure who wrote it and have the same thoughts/questions as you.The note about the van also kind of threw me. why cant they ask jenn about it?? and report back to us :D
Bothers me that she had no space, nowhere with a feeling of privacy. There sure wasnt a chain lock on her space. How is she supposed to feel comfortable if other people dump their things there or watching tv just beyond the dividers. No wonder she complained that he was weird and always in the living room. Like a fox outside the hen house circling, no wonder she had to sleep with her mom. Why didnt JS sleep in the living room then if it was good enough for Maddi, Stephan was gone so she didnt need that KING size bed. In all the stories, and all the witnesses we've heard., about Maddis anxiety her inhaler, sleep issues, forgetfulness, messy space ( chaos) her crying about having to go home. Did anyone ever ask her what it was about? everyone was trying to figure it out, but did anyone ever ask her?
 
What are the odds that Maddie was timid and compliant and just went with it without saying anything.

Jmo and speculation
I think the odds are pretty good, based on jenns disclosure that she yelled at maddi ( and maybe a teacher/counsellor) that said Maddi complained about Jenn yelling and that was a problem at home.
 
and lets not even talk about whats wrong with this picture. It's February, shes already cramped into the dining room Aka as Maddis room, and it looks like it doubled as a storage area. At least take apart that fake tree and put it somewhere else. Put it in your room Jenn.
 

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