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Yes, this^^. And unfortunately, IMO it seemed JS was putting the kibosh on many things in the early stages of the investigation: she forgot her phone; she is forgetful; she wouldn’t know her way back to a residence; she didn’t have any ‘crushes’ - we checked her phone; she has ADHD or the like; they aren’t going to find her where they were looking (in some early phases).
I can't even imagine at 13 yrs old that she didn't know where she lived or how to get to/from school. Even if she didn't know the street names to/from the school, she would know how to get there. My kid (who is now 35) knew where she was going in kindergarten if we were in the car, headed to grandma's house, etc. She certainly knew her address by the time she was 6 or 7.
I remember Jenn saying something about her 13 year old not knowing her HOME address (which to me was shocking, I know 3 year olds who know their home address by heart.)
That's a really good point about the laptop being traceable when JS talked with people at the school. I wonder if the protocol is to trace the laptop of a missing student as soon as they are made aware they are missing. If not, it should be for ALL schools IMO.
Interesting theory…… and add to it why JS had supposedly called SS IIUC stating that he would need to retrieve MS and take her to school that morning. And SS is then apparently using his father’s car that day rather than his own. And all that occuring IIRC the evening following a birthday celebration for MS.
Thats what Im trying to figure out, for starters, I dont know when they would have discussed " the phase" and how that would even matter if he wasnt in his usual car, he says his car is Hoopties? what does that mean? he talks like a child.
That thought is frightening.
There is factual evidence of sexual abuse and of him moving a dead body, of what we know. I don’t know what evidence the LE holds.
He will go for life for the Csam images alone. And if she is culpable she will go away too. Yes there is hope
It's not like she had much choice, she was forced into a intimate relationship with this creepy dude her mother brought into their bed and for some reason mom was all for the closeness she saddled Maddie with. I don't think I'm assuming this, but going by facts gathered.
She was thinking how best to protect her own sorry posterior and that of her sicko lover! Imo
I answered that a while back in response to a post of yours. My post is here:
www.websleuths.com
Also note that I linked to the definition of Hoopties in my post (the blue text seen below is a link. See below for a SS of the link to the definition).
www.urbandictionary.com
bbm last paragraphJust MOO and my own thoughts in this post. Thinking about how possessive SS revealed himself to be in regards to Madeline. When the officer is asking questions about Maddie, asking things a parent should be answering, SS talks over Jen to answer some personal ones about Maddie. Why would a sometimes-around-and not-around-lately know how much she weights? If she had body scars under her clothes?
He had been allowed to take on a role of pseudo stepfather, even though he was actually a pedophile in parent's clothing. He's answers the officer like Madeline is his child or his possession. In his mind that bond gave him rights. He was her person.
In essence, and this is uncomfortable to bring up, so brace yourself against the overwhelming anger that may wash over you, SS infiltrated Madeline's world when she was an 8 yr. old child and from there he groomed her. He said she would come to him to talk when she had arguments with her mother. Not sure if I got the wording right, but he claimed-- "I was that person for her." "I was her person."
MOO now. She went to him to talk when on the outs with her mother.
He wants to tell others he's a stepfather, takes credit, and he's not even there as a real partner. MOO, it's just an on and off weird relationship, and I don't understand how it was okay with Jen. Unfortunately, it was pretty much forced on Maddie as a young child and this dude kept coming back.
More of my own thoughts and MOO-- (In his mind) their special bond, him being the pseudo stepfather came with kind of ownership of personhood. "I was her person", and she was mine to apparently rule over. I am "The Stepfather". I can take liberties, make her earn freedoms, I come bearing Tamagotchis, teach her video games and other things, I provide nightly soothing before bedtime, we have special secrets. To the point he, the sometimes-there-boyfriend, takes on the role of needing consoling in front of cameras when Maddie goes missing.
JS wanted a stepfather for her daughter and a partner to share the responsibilities with, and maybe she didn't realize what was going on under her nose. I can only conclude that right up until the end JS was okay with this arrangement, saw it as innocent parental caring, she wasn't against it or suspicious of it if she was the one to actually call SS back into their lives to "take care" of Maddie that night and oversee her nightly routine. I feel sorry for her poor decisions. What happened that night? What are the real details and what really happened? This is all MOO.
It is so difficult for me to find ANY compassion for JS. There is no *advertiser censored******* way that that child never, ever once said something to her mother about what he does to her. She was 8! Innocent. Unknowing. Questions had to come up in her mind. The sheer grotesque acts that she was forced to perform on him and most likely, he on she, HAD to be difficult and confusing! No way, she never said a word to anyone. It literally sickens me to my stomach that this little girl, since age 8, as far as we know, was used and abused and this was her life. Then at 13 years old, she declares she wants to “live in the woods”. She was growing up by then and betterJust MOO and my own thoughts in this post. Thinking about how possessive SS revealed himself to be in regards to Madeline. When the officer is asking questions about Maddie, asking things a parent should be answering, SS talks over Jen to answer some personal ones about Maddie. Why would a sometimes-around-and not-around-lately know how much she weights? If she had body scars under her clothes?
He had been allowed to take on a role of pseudo stepfather, even though he was actually a pedophile in parent's clothing. He's answers the officer like Madeline is his child or his possession. In his mind that bond gave him rights. He was her person.
In essence, and this is uncomfortable to bring up, so brace yourself against the overwhelming anger that may wash over you, SS infiltrated Madeline's world when she was an 8 yr. old child and from there he groomed her. He said she would come to him to talk when she had arguments with her mother. Not sure if I got the wording right, but he claimed-- "I was that person for her." "I was her person."
MOO now. She went to him to talk when on the outs with her mother.
He wants to tell others he's a stepfather, takes credit, and he's not even there as a real partner. MOO, it's just an on and off weird relationship, and I don't understand how it was okay with Jen. Unfortunately, it was pretty much forced on Maddie as a young child and this dude kept coming back.
More of my own thoughts and MOO-- (In his mind) their special bond, him being the pseudo stepfather came with kind of ownership of personhood. "I was her person", and she was mine to apparently rule over. I am "The Stepfather". I can take liberties, make her earn freedoms, I come bearing Tamagotchis, teach her video games and other things, I provide nightly soothing before bedtime, we have special secrets. To the point he, the sometimes-there-boyfriend, takes on the role of needing consoling in front of cameras when Maddie goes missing.
JS wanted a stepfather for her daughter and a partner to share the responsibilities with, and maybe she didn't realize what was going on under her nose. I can only conclude that right up until the end JS was okay with this arrangement, saw it as innocent parental caring, she wasn't against it or suspicious of it if she was the one to actually call SS back into their lives to "take care" of Maddie that night and oversee her nightly routine. I feel sorry for her poor decisions. What happened that night? What are the real details and what really happened? This is all MOO.
He hasn’t a freaking clue how to be a man, let alone a father!What I heard...
SS – I left my phone at home in the morning too, I was so busy riding her to <unintelligible> to get us out the door on time that I left my phone. She left her phone. We both left our phones.
The above cued up here:
I thought this was worth another mention.
From The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker:
TOO MANY DETAILS – When people are telling the truth they don’t feel they need to elaborate on their story with ‘too many details’.
And uh, she wanted to be dropped off a little down the ways from the school. She’s got this phase that she’s been into lately where she’s very particular about what car she’s seen getting out of in front of the school. Uhm, she prefers her mom’s car but my car is kinda hoopties. I get it. It’s an image thing, but uhm, that was, sometime probably between 8:20-8:40ish. Somewhere in there, it was along this stretch of the road that uhm, on the right side it has all the communities on it. Before you get to the overpass, you can see the overpass from where it was.
Cued up:
yes, she's a happy girl...
