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Just letting everyone know I haven't forgotten about Shannon and I am still praying that where ever she ends up, she knows love and laughter.
People who are bi-polar often have problems with substance abuse,recklessness (speeding) and overspending...they are apt to write bad checks, go on a spree etc
and their mental illness is NO defense for that, sorry
:boohoo:
MOST people in prison have some mental problems...should we just excuse them all??? I don't think so
Plus it is hard to play it both ways...those who are so anxious to have Shannon go to her grandmother WITH Tina don't think...will they watch her 24/7?
If not, what is to say that Tina might not be "swayed" to give her baby away again or do something else equally dangerous or foolish??
Should Tina be treated as harshly as Susan?? No...I am not saying that
but I don't think she should skate away
She can get her meds in prison....or in a mental institution. Sorry as far as I am concerned this was a crime, and apparently the prosecution is thinking that way.
as for Susan Baker, like most here I hope they throw the book at her.
But oh...what if she is bi-polar, or depressed or schizoid, or ??
what then?
LOGICALMINDS,
I agree 150%.
Crystina Lynn Mercer's call to report her baby was missing.
http://www.newsherald.com/video/?videoId=49633790001&lineupId=1171892348&wap=0
WOW,look here Logicalminds,just 9 days ago I agreed with you 150% and since the last fews days Ive totally shifted :waitasec:
See,it can happen:dance:
respectfully snipped..
oh....never harmed her...but called her in missing, allowed a huge, expensive manhunt to go on, the whole nation worried ....she was just "allowing" SB to "care" for her in a box under a bed??
sorry...I think LOGICALLY...not based on emotions
>>??? LOL>>> on which subject?? I find there are some "cases" or threads I agree with people and some that I don't
Can you clarify?? thanks
LM, I realize this is logical thinking. But can you think for a minute, about why Tina didn't stop the search? For just a moment, be a 13 yr old who doesn't think or process the way an adult does. Or even the way you did when you were 13....
Why would she do this? Was she afraid? Had she and sb collaborated? Had sb told her repeatedly not to cave? Why? What was the purpose?
Without knowing these answers I have to continue to question whether or not sb was behind the whole thing and she manipulated Tina into doing this.
What did Tina have to gain? I can"t see a damn thing. Did sb want to keep Shannon? Did she convince Tina this would work out for both of them? sb was the only one who served to gain anything, from my POV.
sb no doubt was in the process of setting this up, when she sent an email to Mr Gov Crist. What she was hoping to accomplish must have failed, when CPS proved that Tina was in compliance.
Logic dictates this was not going to end the way Tina expected, without knowing what she expected to happen and assuming there would be a pay off.
Logically, Tina never should have been allowed to take Shannon home from the hospital without a full time care giver. Realistically Tina is over 21 years old (chronologically), her family couldn't force her to live with them, or force her to do anything.
Anyone who has not lived with a person who has these issues, can't grasp the day to day frustrations they live with and more so those who love them deal with.
Foster mom is in Chipley? How do we know she is covering that babies face? I assumed, and wrong that the baby would not be close by here.
LogicalMinds, I think those of us that have zero sympathy for Tina are reading but not posting.
I am amazed how many people want it "both ways" when it comes to Tina...
they feel she should get "off" cause of her mental problems/etc but they don't say how the baby would be safe with her in the future...
No one, including Tina's family, has said that she should 'get off' but that she should get help...if that involves time in a medical facility where she is under security, and that is what a judge decides, then that may be what is best for her. Our argument is that she does not deserve to go to prison but to get help and monitoring suitable to her mental condition. Also, noone has said that she will be raising her daughter again either, even if she is not convicted of criminal charges I doubt that she will be given custody back, but I don't think she should never be allowed to see her daughter again either.
Can I point out again as well that we dont KNOW that she gave SB the baby, that is SB's claim and Tina denies it. If you are such a Logical Thinker you should be familiar with the constitution and every persons rights including that they are innocent until proven guilty. For all we know at this point SB came and got the baby while the parents were sleeping, Tina said in her 911 call that maybe her sister in law picked her up and she would call them to ask, she did not say it like it was an uncommon occurance. Her lack of emotion is another symptom of her emotional handicap, I grew up with her, I can attest for the fact that she doesn't handle emotions the way most people do in stressful situations. That does not mean she is not feeling emotions, but she does not express them for most people to see. The 'angry' look you think you saw in her photos...first of all, wouldn't you be angry if you had just found out that the person you trusted your child with was a convicted child abuser, had 'lost' another child in her care, and had your child in a box under a bed for a good part of the past 4 days? Knowing at that point that my baby was safe with police I would not be able to hide my anger about those circumstances, so I wouldn't question why she looked angry in the first place. That aside, knowing her personally and being familiar with her handicaps, I have seen that expression on her before and it is often when she is blocking emotions as I previously mentioned that she does. You can also see in those same photos that her eyes are red, which was due to the immense amout of crying she was doing while with her family and on her own.
My point is, to put it bluntly, that you really don't know enough about her that is FACT, and not allegation or rumor, to make any judgements about her at this point. But as usual, I don't expect anything I say to change anyones mind...just trying to remind people that there are 2 sides to every story and you definitely don't see the full story about anything in the news, so drawing dead set conclusions from limited news reports is neither fair nor logical