FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

[Kimberlyd125]

I have no idea if this person has any kind of degree, but seems he/she may do it professionally as there were numerous links to other cases they have done. You're right on the link, WS does not seem to like blog addresses, you could do a web search for "Eyes for Lies", that is what I did as I have read them on other cases.

Ok-fair enough. So it's basically a blog of the writers opinion.

I'm looking more for a professional analysis. Like those I've seen on other cases.

I've seen several opinions.

 

[New1]

Can anybody provide a link to a professional who has said DTs reactions or body language shows that she is lieing?

I ask this because I have seen such articles and interviews were professionals have studied and questioned parents in this situation before. It happened in the Caylee case, the Haleigh case, the Shaniya case, and several others.

I've seen this done on DT by posters here but I've never seen a professional make comments on it.

Almost at the beginning of this case being discussed, there was a poster who came on and SAID that he/she had extensive training in body language analysis, did not say professional though. This poster stated something like go back to the MPR, police protocol, etc. and you will KNOW who killed this child. Does anyone remember that besides me? Later on this poster said that he/she had studied DT's body language and believed she was not telling the truth. This does not mean this poster was right or wrong, and of course, it is not fact. It is just what was stated by someone who said he/she had extensive training in body language analysis.

 

[Dee10]

Ok-fair enough. So it's basically a blog of the writers opinion.

I'm looking more for a professional analysis. Like those I've seen on other cases.

I've seen several opinions.

I would appreciate if you have any links?

It is subjective, similar to lie-detector tests IMO. This person seems to have a lot of experience judging by the list of people he/she analyzed. If anyone cares to check the rate of success on how well this person did on the solved cases vs. their opinion I would certainly appreciate if you could post & tell us the verdict.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Almost at the beginning of this case being discussed, there was a poster who came on and SAID that he/she had extensive training in body language analysis, did not say professional though. This poster stated something like go back to the MPR, police protocol, etc. and you will KNOW who killed this child. Does anyone remember that besides me? Later on this poster said that he/she had studied DT's body language and believed she was not telling the truth. This does not mean this poster was right or wrong, and of course, it is not fact. It is just what was stated by someone who said he/she had extensive training in body language analysis.

I remember that quite well because that poster came on and would give several quick comments then leave. He/she caused quite a stir.

I do not believe everything a member here tells me. They are not automatically fact because someone says it. All comments should be taken with a grain of salt unless there are facts to back it up. IMO

So, I guess I am looking for someone with a degree to say DTs actions and body language say she is lieing.

To me, opinions are just that-opinons.

 

[4mer.naybor]

Well in the meantime....Prayers for Somer!

Hope theres a break in the case soon....until then take care.

I'll be back when/if there is news on the story.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I would appreciate if you have any links?

It is subjective, similar to lie-detector tests IMO. This person seems to have a lot of experience judging by the list of people he/she analyzed. If anyone cares to check the rate of success on how well this person did on the solved cases vs. their opinion I would certainly appreciate if you could post & tell us the verdict.

What kinda links are you asking me to provide? I was very specific in my request.

Any body can sit behind a computer and create a blog. Does that mean they know what they are talking about?

The reason I asked for links is because in several of the cases you say this blogger has blogged about, there have been professionals that have done articles and interviews that said the parents were deceitful. I have not seen any on DT and I was wondering if anybody else has.

I take it the answer is no.

 

[human]

I've seen these awhile back.I was wondering if any one found out who the crew members were and if there was 3 crew members.I do feel they are suspects.I use to have all this on my computer and my computer died.I lost everything.So I don't remember where anything is now.This is why I hope Somer does get her own a sub forum.So we will know exactly where to go to find things.so if any one has the links please post them for us ok?

I really think that you need to search and find them yourself. NoWay has had extensive lists and referrals on other threads that lead to questions that you have. She has it listed so organized and easy to refer to. Plus, you might find something that strikes your eye that no one has even noticed yet.

It seems that you like to look at things analytically . I do not want to go through the work of finding things myself, posting them, and then have them questioned as valid . If you go straight to the source yourself, you can determine what you feel is valid with your criteria in mind.


Therefore, I feel that you should look yourself, read what seems to pertain, then post what you find as relevant and enlightening to this case.
IMHO

 

[awakewriter]

Well in the meantime....Prayers for Somer!

Hope theres a break in the case soon....until then take care.

I'll be back when/if there is news on the story.

I've avoided this thread because of all the fighting. I check in to see if there's news, so we're in the same boat.

 

[awakewriter]

I don't wish to be a part of these arguments over DT.

However, if anyone is interested in reading something truly touching and real about grief, I highly recommend "The Year of Magical Thinking," by Joan Didion.

 

[Dee10]

What kinda links are you asking me to provide? I was very specific in my request.

Any body can sit behind a computer and create a blog. Does that mean they know what they are talking about?

The reason I asked for links is because in several of the cases you say this blogger has blogged about, there have been professionals that have done articles and interviews that said the parents were deceitful. I have not seen any on DT and I was wondering if anybody else has.

I take it the answer is no.

Your post #471, you said "I've seen several opinions." I took that to mean "on Diena" & I would like to see them too. I am very interesting in body language, but not good at it myself LOL.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Well in the meantime....Prayers for Somer!

Hope theres a break in the case soon....until then take care.

I'll be back when/if there is news on the story.

Maybe you better put the reasons in your siggy line for using that avatar just so people coming in are not offended.

 

[4mer.naybor]

Maybe you better put the reasons in your siggy line for using that avatar just so people coming in are not offended.

great idea Doc, thanks....

 

[human]

The report was made last year. I'm assuming he attended school with them last year, and moved up to junior high this year. Seems to fit with his age, but I don't know.

What are the grade configurations in OP? Where I live, an 11-12 year old starts middle school. I believe AC is 14 going on 15? Is that correct?

Is he an age that could have walked home with them last year?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Your post #471, you said "I've seen several opinions." I took that to mean "on Diena" & I would like to see them too. I am very interesting in body language, but not good at it myself LOL.

Post #471 on which thread. I'll go back and look at it.

I know I have had several opinions regarding this case. I have followed it since the day Somer went missing.

But, I don't know what you are asking me about unless I know what post you are referring to.

You can paraphrase if you'd like, or tell me what thread to look in.

ETA: Never mind..I see what you are saying. You meant 421 and I took it as you wanted me to go look at another thread as to something I said because we are not to 471 yet.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

What I meant by I've seen several opinions is I've seen several opinions on DT on WSs by posters.

That's what I meant.

As far as my own opinion, I think she lost her child, she is grieving and everybody needs to understand that not everyone acts the same way in times like these.
IMO people are way too critical on her and I feel for her.
I don't think she had anything to do with this and I don't thing she is covering for anybody else.

JMO

 

[human]

Post #471 on which thread. I'll go back and look at it.

I know I have had several opinions regarding this case. I have followed it since the day Somer went missing.

But, I don't know what you are asking me about unless I know what post you are referring to.

You can paraphrase if you'd like, or tell me what thread to look in.

ETA: Never mind..I see what you are saying.

Dee10-Did you mean post 421?

 

[Dee10]

Dee10-Did you mean post 421?

Yes, sorry thought I could remember from one page to the next. :snooty:

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Yes, sorry thought I could remember from one page to the next. :snooty:

I got ya!! lol
I figured it out and responded ^^^^

 

[human]

Post #471 on which thread. I'll go back and look at it.

I know I have had several opinions regarding this case. I have followed it since the day Somer went missing.

But, I don't know what you are asking me about unless I know what post you are referring to.

You can paraphrase if you'd like, or tell me what thread to look in.

ETA: Never mind..I see what you are saying. You meant 421 and I took it as you wanted me to go look at another thread as to something I said because we are not to 471 yet.

OK. So Dee10 meant post 421 .

What I thought was meant that Kim125 has seen professionals do body language on other WS cases. I thought Dee was asking who those professionals are . I would like to know , also, so I could look and see if they have said anything about this case.

Or Kim125, do you know their names so I could look up their websites and see what they say. Maybe if not this case, they might give things they look for? TIA

 

[Sunshine77]

What are the grade configurations in OP? Where I live, an 11-12 year old starts middle school. I believe AC is 14 going on 15? Is that correct?

Is he an age that could have walked home with them last year?

In that area of Orange Park, elementary is K-6, junior high is 7-8, and high school is 9-12. There are some other schools in Orange Park where junior high is 6-8. I've seen AC listed as being 13 in multiple places.