Leomoon80
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This man has what is known as an unaspected Sun. This simply means, that using the Ptolemaic aspects, out to Saturn, (because Neptune, Pluto and Uranus weren’t discovered 2,000 years ago), and so using only planets out to Saturn, his Sun makes no major aspect to another planet.
It’s not necessarily a bad thing for souls who are more evolved however, but for him
As for all, it simply means not having a particular archetype to the father image.
Perhaps having a difficult time relating then, to “who he is” and by what measure or standards he is or should measure up to in life .
Being then, one who is ungrounded as for personal identity.
My husband has no major aspect to his Sun, but often says to me, “he knows who he is through me”….my eyes give him the identity he seeks.
But then again, he is a more spiritually evolved person.
Whose eyes give this man his identity?
The Sun does make a Bi-Quintile (not an original Ptolomy aspect such as a square or conjunction or even opposition) however, but a creative minor aspect to Saturn.
So who was Saturn representative of in his life?……This we may not know unless the case is followed to court to find out about his background.
Saturn can be an older man, a father figure, a grandfather, even a teacher he respected.
The Bi Quintile as the Quintiles are seen to be the aspects pointing to some creativity or ways in which we creatively weave our lives . Hence, Saturn (for him) seems to be a double edged sword, and I’m anxious to know his background because of Saturn.
His Saturn also stands out by itself, and brings more focus on it, as a Singleton would.
I see for instance, not only the creative aspect of a Bi-Quintile but two Trines, that are harmonious (easy for him) to Mercury and the Moon. Then there is the harmonious Trine to Uranus which is far easier for us to understand because it simply points to a person who loves excitement, theatre and the unusual. Saturn trine Uranus also gives strong willpower and persistence in what he wants to do and aids him in this way.
Good at implementation of plans and actions (James Braha points to)
So, this man has some crucial talents and gifts to benefit from, if he wished to partake of them. However, having Saturn in Cancer being termed, “in Detriment” Saturn doesn’t operate as efficiently or as smoothly, as had it not been weakened this way for him.
Saturn also squares Pluto and opposes the North Node.
This means, his “in detriment” and non-efficient quality of the energy of Saturn
Can easily falls prey to his lesser traits and qualities., into the grasp of Pluto’s energy
Which can easily make it harder to do the right thing for sure.
Pluto squares or oppositions and sometimes even the conjunction connection, can
Easily make a person swerve off course….to want to control and manipulate the others.
So you see why I said, his Saturn was a “double edged” sword for him.
Although Venus in Capricorn is not necessarily delegated to a detriment position or even in Fall, Venus doesn’t act as we’d like to see Venus in Capricorn because this sign is more businesslike, more austere in it’s pleasures whereas Venus itself is more about pleasure, beauty and social skills if not harmed.
For him, I’d say that Venus in Capricorn “harms” as it’s also a planet that squares
A very questionable Mars in late Aries, squares erratic natured Uranus, and squares his Moon (which is close to Uranus) as well as Chiron.
His background no doubt was tumultuous.
But then again, isn’t this just a “duh” statement in light of what this man is thought of having done?
If it proves to be so, we need to consider then:
1)An unaspected Sun
2)His “in Detriment” weak Saturn
3)His many aspects to Uranus
4)The harsher aspects to his Moon
5)The harsh aspects to his rather colder Venus
6)The Pluto square Saturn (tears up what he builds, tearing it all down)
7)A critical 29th (last degree) Sun in Scorpio
8) His Mercury conjunct “Crux” the Cross or the burden to bear
square Jupiter (brings no benefit for him)
9)Ceres (nurture in his life) square Pluto and opposes Saturn (and again I ask who is Saturn?) in his life.
(may again, have been a tortured child and now strikes out on the populace)
10)His Chiron (the inner wound we all carry) is harshly aspected for him.
However, it’s not surprising to an Astrologer to realize one with this chart
(even without the time of birth) may end up in prison as he has life-long, and probably the product of a tumultuous background himself)
Last and certainly by no means less would be his Mars is conjunct in late Aries to his
Very afflicted Chiron . He strikes out at others in this life over his own pain. Like a wounded or cornered animal I suppose might be inclined to do. But in his case, deviousness of a critical Scorpio and remember the Event chart, put Scorpio on the D/C cusp (known enemies)
Chart for an "unknown time" of birth:
It’s not necessarily a bad thing for souls who are more evolved however, but for him
As for all, it simply means not having a particular archetype to the father image.
Perhaps having a difficult time relating then, to “who he is” and by what measure or standards he is or should measure up to in life .
Being then, one who is ungrounded as for personal identity.
My husband has no major aspect to his Sun, but often says to me, “he knows who he is through me”….my eyes give him the identity he seeks.
But then again, he is a more spiritually evolved person.
Whose eyes give this man his identity?
The Sun does make a Bi-Quintile (not an original Ptolomy aspect such as a square or conjunction or even opposition) however, but a creative minor aspect to Saturn.
So who was Saturn representative of in his life?……This we may not know unless the case is followed to court to find out about his background.
Saturn can be an older man, a father figure, a grandfather, even a teacher he respected.
The Bi Quintile as the Quintiles are seen to be the aspects pointing to some creativity or ways in which we creatively weave our lives . Hence, Saturn (for him) seems to be a double edged sword, and I’m anxious to know his background because of Saturn.
His Saturn also stands out by itself, and brings more focus on it, as a Singleton would.
I see for instance, not only the creative aspect of a Bi-Quintile but two Trines, that are harmonious (easy for him) to Mercury and the Moon. Then there is the harmonious Trine to Uranus which is far easier for us to understand because it simply points to a person who loves excitement, theatre and the unusual. Saturn trine Uranus also gives strong willpower and persistence in what he wants to do and aids him in this way.
Good at implementation of plans and actions (James Braha points to)
So, this man has some crucial talents and gifts to benefit from, if he wished to partake of them. However, having Saturn in Cancer being termed, “in Detriment” Saturn doesn’t operate as efficiently or as smoothly, as had it not been weakened this way for him.
Saturn also squares Pluto and opposes the North Node.
This means, his “in detriment” and non-efficient quality of the energy of Saturn
Can easily falls prey to his lesser traits and qualities., into the grasp of Pluto’s energy
Which can easily make it harder to do the right thing for sure.
Pluto squares or oppositions and sometimes even the conjunction connection, can
Easily make a person swerve off course….to want to control and manipulate the others.
So you see why I said, his Saturn was a “double edged” sword for him.
Although Venus in Capricorn is not necessarily delegated to a detriment position or even in Fall, Venus doesn’t act as we’d like to see Venus in Capricorn because this sign is more businesslike, more austere in it’s pleasures whereas Venus itself is more about pleasure, beauty and social skills if not harmed.
For him, I’d say that Venus in Capricorn “harms” as it’s also a planet that squares
A very questionable Mars in late Aries, squares erratic natured Uranus, and squares his Moon (which is close to Uranus) as well as Chiron.
His background no doubt was tumultuous.
But then again, isn’t this just a “duh” statement in light of what this man is thought of having done?
If it proves to be so, we need to consider then:
1)An unaspected Sun
2)His “in Detriment” weak Saturn
3)His many aspects to Uranus
4)The harsher aspects to his Moon
5)The harsh aspects to his rather colder Venus
6)The Pluto square Saturn (tears up what he builds, tearing it all down)
7)A critical 29th (last degree) Sun in Scorpio
8) His Mercury conjunct “Crux” the Cross or the burden to bear
square Jupiter (brings no benefit for him)
9)Ceres (nurture in his life) square Pluto and opposes Saturn (and again I ask who is Saturn?) in his life.
(may again, have been a tortured child and now strikes out on the populace)
10)His Chiron (the inner wound we all carry) is harshly aspected for him.
However, it’s not surprising to an Astrologer to realize one with this chart
(even without the time of birth) may end up in prison as he has life-long, and probably the product of a tumultuous background himself)
Last and certainly by no means less would be his Mars is conjunct in late Aries to his
Very afflicted Chiron . He strikes out at others in this life over his own pain. Like a wounded or cornered animal I suppose might be inclined to do. But in his case, deviousness of a critical Scorpio and remember the Event chart, put Scorpio on the D/C cusp (known enemies)
Chart for an "unknown time" of birth: