Zaha - I've read in another chart (not done here) that they believe it was 11:24am by asphyxiation/strangulation.... and there is "a lot of water" in the chart.. meaning he's probably in or around water.
I would be interested to see what our astros here say
We can always reverse engineer a day of course with Astrology charts.
But don’t we need to go back to what rules for Event Charts that Fith Essence has quoted a few times?
If we don’t, then we are working “willy-nilly” and all over the place.
In otherwords, the many charts done here point to Kyron’s probable death.
However
, when that probable death took place, can legitimately be surmised by manipulation of the computerized charts and working on the transits and progressions of planets.
Usually in Astrology we look for what is called “Testimonies” and 3 are necessary to even begin to take a chart seriously.
Are there 3 in this chart?
I can see by erecting it and looking briefly that Regulus (Alphard to be exact) rises at the 11:24AM time on June 4th, 2010.
I can also
see that Scorpio (water ) is at the I/C and of course as mentioned for this day as well, both POF and Mercury (the lower mind symbol)
is conjunct or near conj. Algol and the other stars that predict trouble at the MC (the public arena) in an Earth sign.
Having the D/C cusp as on this chart, with the Black Moon Lilith right on the cusp of the 7th house of open enemies, (within 15minutes)
also is intriguing because of the kind and the noteiriety of this case thus far.
So, it’s a potential chart for a potential event
that has some merit, imo as hypotheticals
Go.
In natal astrology there are some Astrologers (I’m not one of them) who will not do a chart until it has been Rectified first, thus giving every time of birth a question mark until the Astrologer feels the time is confirmed by testimonies in the chart beyond the clock time of birth.
So, rectification in this manner would suggest even the birth time (for some) is seen as a hypothetical until rectified.
I’m not beating around the bush here, I’m trying to say that I think
the guidelines in place by Fifth Essence make the most overall sense, although I’m also intrigued by the chart itself for this time and place.
Perhaps I’ll check further and comment again later
if permissable to do so for the benefit of those who ask and find interest in this point in time on June 4th, 2010,
I'm sure the others have their own take on if he is in water or in the earth itself., or even (as I've also been told by other internet astrological bloggers) still alive somewhere.
It's all about the probabilities and the
weight towards one end vs another, imo
For the Weighing , here are a few of the ARabic Lots found in this particular timed chart (hypothetical time) based on rather a good investigation of the potentials, imo.
YET< I don not agree that it's so much water that he would be found in water!
There are two angles in water, but the MC is in Taurus (earth)
So, from this I am not convinced of a water focus.
Hour of Jupiter:
1)PO Fatality – Jupiter RX conj. “Scheat” (found in 8th conj. Uranus)
2)PO Mother - 20°52min. Aries
3)PO Mother and /or Family – 8Taurus (conj. “Hamal”
4)PO Slyness – 21Libra 21min.
5)PO Deceit - 13AQ – (conjunct “Algrorab”
(dishonesty, slyness, malvolent, misrepresents are all
keywords)
6)PO a Disaster – 3°Virgo
7)PO a murder (1) 27°Capricorn
8)PO a murder (2) 27°Cancer
9)PO a Reprisal = 20°Taurus 31’
10) PO Punishment – 12° Gemini 27’
"T" Square exists between PO Mother/PO Slyness/ PO Venus
4th house cusp in
this timed event is 19Scorpio, (the evil degree) or "no good to come from it" as noted by Charubel in his work of Degrees although it's possible he didn't give it this phrase.
I suppose the next thing to do, would be to check all of these Parts against the various charts we already have should someone wish to pick this up.
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