Forensic Astrology - LINDSEY BAUM missing McCleary,WA 6/26/09 #1

[Knox]

Pluto ruling the house of Homicide and Searches is at a standstill. Does that mean the searching will be called off for a time after school starts? Also the unwelcome changes to do with parents/students. Would this be something like "no student will be allowed to leave after school without a parent" something of that nature? More protective measures which the school implements that may be difficult for some parents to deal with?

 

[kageykaren]

Kagey - I'm seeing as a student who may have been molested by the perp previously and has never told anyone because of fear. When school starts and the talk turns to Lindsey, the student will again become fearful, trying to withdraw from school. The perp will notice and become even edgier.

Let's hope all those protecting the students take notice!

Salem

Salem thats good and so plausible. From what I'v learned young girls who have been abused and have not yet disclosed this do not want to go to school. Many days missed complaing of stoach aches ect... to stay home. That is just a laymens light words to describe those kinds of feelings. I'm to tired to do a disortation and I know it isn't necessary. Maybe the "mature talk" associated to LB's abduction allows this person thr freedom and confidence to speak up. My problem and it's little is a grade school girl may be more apt to try and be perfect so no one would know. Therefore avoiding being tardy to attract attention. That is not a fact to take to the bank. I could see a young girl pulling a female authority person aside and sharing after this kind of talk. I just might be back to custodial thinking now with the charts of school.

 

[Tuba]

Pluto at a standstill is temporary and Pluto will shortly move ahead although the pace will be slow at first (and Pluto is a slow outer planet at best). My own take on coming events is that the school environment provides the background that forces the truth out in the month of September. Any slowdown in searches will be compensated by the truth cauldron of school.

The measures you give are a good example of what might now be in place for protection of the students.

 

[KONAMOCHA]

We have a Websleuth named McCleary and others who live there and post here. How I would love to ask them who was at command central (to be) at 13 minutes of 9 last Friday. That is the individual, who may have been scouting the location legitimately or for self-protection, harbouring guilty knowledge. And it is at that moment when the facts about this individual were revealed--not at any other hour that day. Maybe those Websleuths will see the information about the Klaas search and post. I certainly hope so.

OK, so today I decided to drive by the Community Center to see if I knew anyone that lived across the street.....
I was going to ask about the 13 minutes of 9 on the 21st of Aug.

I looked at one of the houses and realized I knew who owned it because he used to have garage sales there and I am a garage sale buff.

It is the produce stand guy that has been in the limelight since day 1 handing out the flyers and making the big "Our Angel Lindsey" signs

I got a really bad feeling and immediately came straight home to post about it

 

[KONAMOCHA]

The other thing is that I read somewhere about jewelry and cash for jewelry possibility connected to the perp. yesterday there was a Big buying jewelry sign sitting on the corner of the produce stand and I took a pic of one of the signs ... freaked me out

 

[Tuba]

One aspect I intended to add yesterday and forgot to: the Mercury from the first day of school & the open house is not only on the degree of homicide (per famous astrologer, Chas. Carter) but is also exactly square the Sun, ruling the House of homicide in our chart from June 26, Lindsey's disappearance. Mercury turns retrograde next Sunday the 6th at 6° Libra~homicide. Due to the subject matter Mercury rules, we can place our bets that this subject will be discussed.

 

[KONAMOCHA]

One aspect I intended to add yesterday and forgot to: the Mercury from the first day of school & the open house is not only on the degree of homicide (per famous astrologer, Chas. Carter) but is also exactly square the Sun, ruling the House of homicide in our chart from June 26, Lindsey's disappearance. Mercury turns retrograde next Sunday the 6th at 6° Libra~homicide. Due to the subject matter Mercury rules, we can place our bets that this subject will be discussed.

Does that mean the person will be discussed or Lindsey's disappearance will be discussed ?

and will the person not be discussed until the 6th ?

TIA ~Kona~

 

[nursebeeme]

Thanks Tuba.... sounds like tides could be turning in this case (as well as that of Haleigh)

Thanks for all you do (and oh how eloquently you do it too!)

 

[nursebeeme]

Does that mean the person will be discussed or Lindsey's disappearance will be discussed ?

and will the person not be discussed until the 6th ?

TIA ~Kona~

KONA, I am not Tuba (or nowhere near her) but I took her chart to read that the school and open house connection will be discussed. (or something pertaining to in or around the school will be discussed/brought to light in relation to the case)... I mean the signs were pointing to murder at the open house time, right Tuba?? (sorry I have astronewbieitis)

(did I get that right Tuba??)

 

[Tuba]

Page 13 is about what the school environment offers the investigation into this crime. The very setting of return to school confines the students and socialises them and will produce conversations about the newsworthy disappearance of their classmate. We have seen in the charts that there is one pupil who knows what happened, possibly two. Teachers will be alert to behavior that gives indications of that.

It is the crime itself that will be discussed and all we need is patience. The exchanges and the information will not surface until the opening of school from September 8 and onward into the month of September. The fact that Mercury turns backward Sunday night, September 6 announces what is to come but it is my strong belief that nothing will come to light until school begins 36 hrs. later.

 

[KONAMOCHA]

I wanted to let you know that there are a lot of the kids that attend school in Elma which starts tomorrow Sept. 1. This is because of conflicts at the McCleary school.

 

[kageykaren]

Page 13 is about what the school environment offers the investigation into this crime. The very setting of return to school confines the students and socialises them and will produce conversations about the newsworthy disappearance of their classmate. We have seen in the charts that there is one pupil who knows what happened, possibly two. Teachers will be alert to behavior that gives indications of that.

It is the crime itself that will be discussed and all we need is patience. The exchanges and the information will not surface until the opening of school from September 8 and onward into the month of September. The fact that Mercury turns backward Sunday night, September 6 announces what is to come but it is my strong belief that nothing will come to light until school begins 36 hrs. later.

I only pulled this post after reading this entire thread over & over for the last 4 days. Maybe we should be patient & let this moment come to past. I am concerned that students may be in peril if reading your post the first time. I'm thinking the mature talk will come after the exposer of Lindsey's ordeal. The behaviors that may be watched from the pupil who holds the key may come in a an exaggerated form of poor impulse control. Hearing the words tardy, delinqent, leads me to thinking the child is male. From other post it seems a depressed mother living in an enviroment of turmoil within the home is protecting this child from what might happen if he would speak up. I'm just giving an interprettation of what I read that will come to past, no fact just sluething. What are the two within the three fearful of? If the talk comes after a fact the staff may want to blanket & protect the children from emotional harm after the culprit is known. Alot of healing for a small town will be provided. Who is this violent person that can't sit still pacing back & forth last sat.? What type of person young or old who may have been at the community center Fri. morning 13. min. till nine on the 21st. Feel free to express own ideas that cross out my thought process.

 

[Tuba]

konamocha, am keeping your sighting of Produce Man in mind. (a. He was in the right spot. (b. His scene creeped you out. (c. The Sun in Cancer and Moon & Saturn in Virgo for the perpetrator in our disappearance horoscope do indeed relate to produce. I'm very very glad you reported back to us.

 

[concentric]

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07-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Gailrene
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Originally Posted by TakeNote
rats...i hate it when im the last poster on a thread that closes....LOL.....so i will ask again

i have a question about the produce truck.....does it come and go?....like maybe comes in for the weekend?....and then gone....and back again...a reg time and day....is there a farmers market there?

I've seen it there the whole time, night and day. The truck is still parked there even when the stand isn't open. I haven't seen it gone but I'm assuming he has to go back to Yakima and get more produce?

No, there is no farmer's market...I wish though.
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So, who does he work for?

I found a directory for farm stands and markets near McCleary that might be the source of the produce. And I did find one farm in McCleary that sells to people directly from their farm.

 

[concentric]

Listing of Farmer's Markets and Fruit Stands:

http://www.fruitstands.com/states/washingt.htm

A farm in McCleary, WA that sells from their own property:

http://zeppfarm.com/Documents/2009 CSA Brochure.pdf


Wonder if any of these places employs people at the produce stand?

 

[cyberswept]

Listing of Farmer's Markets and Fruit Stands:

http://www.fruitstands.com/states/washingt.htm

A farm in McCleary, WA that sells from their own property:

http://zeppfarm.com/Documents/2009 CSA Brochure.pdf


Wonder if any of these places employs people at the produce stand?

The Zepps have been around this area for a very long time. If you go to the home page, the guy in the orange shirt, I worked with him for years when we both worked for Weyerhaeuser. He is probably one of the nicest, easiest going people you would ever want to meet. The Zepps are good people and well respected in this area.

Too see the photo better, right click on it and choose View Image. It is actually a bit larger or click on this link: http://zeppfarm.com/images/group_image.jpg

I do not know if they use their own family to man their stands or hire someone to do it though.

 

[cyberswept]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/KlaasSearchinWA094.jpg

Here is another chart, for the physical search for Lindsey Baum. Saturn, who has custody of focal real estate and who appeared in June as the criminal involved in Lindsey's disappearance is still with us and is hiding in House 12. Saturn well knows where the child is as Saturn opposes Uranus, ruler of Lindsey in this search chart and from heliocentric perspective the opposition is exact: 24° - 24°. It is within close orb geocentrically, 2° and 54'. Just as in the original Last Seen chart, we look to more involvement in early Cancer and Capricorn where we find others, Mars and Pluto. As noted under the chart here, Mars is wanted as public enemy and killer; he rules both those Houses, 7 & 8. Deceit & concealment abound with intercepts in neighboring Sagittarius and in II and the Moon is suppressed.

Note that Mars is on a degree of "Reaching Out". A Bunch of Iron Keys. Control of boundaries. Finding ways to overcome limitations.

I would like to mention that before, during and after Lindsey's disappearance there has been construction going on at the school. Huge piles of dirt, rock, concrete and old building materials have been there, moved around, leveled and trucked off. When I drove by there today, I thought, "Wow these guys are cutting it close to getting that work done so close to school opening." Because there is still a lot of dirt and rock piles there.

Could this reference you are making to the one with a bunch of iron keys be a construction worker? This person could easily have hidden a body in all that new construction.

Anyway just a thought.

 

[kageykaren]

I would like to mention that before, during and after Lindsey's disappearance there has been construction going on at the school. Huge piles of dirt, rock, concrete and old building materials have been there, moved around, leveled and trucked off. When I drove by there today, I thought, "Wow these guys are cutting it close to getting that work done so close to school opening." Because there is still a lot of dirt and rock piles there.

Could this reference you are making to the one with a bunch of iron keys be a construction worker? This person could easily have hidden a body in all that new construction.

Anyway just a thought.

Thats great info. that hasn't been reported. Do you know if this construction was going on that day in June or before? If they were there it would be interesting to know what time the guys clock out, what times are break times throughout the day, if anyone stayed late that Friday evenning, does an employee stay on the site over night to watch the equipment & such, how many guys in the crew, and anything else we can think of. Is there a name of the company?

 

[KONAMOCHA]

Yes, They were there before LB went missing. not sure of time they clocked out though

 

[cyberswept]

Thats great info. that hasn't been reported. Do you know if this construction was going on that day in June or before? If they were there it would be interesting to know what time the guys clock out, what times are break times throughout the day, if anyone stayed late that Friday evenning, does an employee stay on the site over night to watch the equipment & such, how many guys in the crew, and anything else we can think of. Is there a name of the company?

It has been mentioned, long ago in the threads Kagey, but not too much was made of it. One would hope that LE was all over that.

There was construction going on all over the school. We went to my daughters preschool graduation and they had the gym divided with a huge piece of plastic. On the other side they were rebuilding or adding on. I know that they were there working before that too because there was a report of a guy falling off some scaffolding, or it fell, something like that.

Even though it's a holiday weekend, I would be surprised if they weren't out there tomorrow trying to finish up before kids head back to school on Tuesday.

I have been by there several times after hours and never seen anyone watching the site. It doesn't mean there wasn't someone there because some of the work they did would have had to expose areas where entry could be gained.

I counted about 10 guys, but as you know, when contractors with specialties come in, there can be many different groups. Electricians, plumbers, HVAC guys and the actual construction guys. This would have provided an opportunity for many people to come through. However, I think it unlikely since it was 9:15pm on a Friday night. Seems like everyone would be gone from the work site by then, looking forward to the weekend. Just my take on it though.

As for your other questions, I don't know the answers to those. Sorry.