Forensic Astrology - VICTORIA (Tori) STAFFORD - Canada

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

Status
Not open for further replies.
Tuba said:
The April 15 court appearance will work but we need to know at least what time court convened FOR THAT CASE or what time defendants were called by the bailiff. We have been able to find those times in the Anthony case, so I hope it is possible in Ontario.

butterfly, absolutely T. M. is very worried about money, with Saturn in H. 2 but also squaring the Moon worsening by the minute. I am interested in your concern about suicide. I had not even considered that, judging from her demeanor. I think you were v. profound in your comments about South Node of the Moon in H. 12--terrific!
Click to expand...
Thanks you Tuba, I am really trying so hard to learn this stuff, and I am scared to ask for fear I'll be wrong, and you guys have such a great track record, you are so accurate.
The reason I was asking about the importance of the North Node in the 6th house of Health and possible suicide , is because the South node being in the 12th house we see the kind of life Tara has lead, her nature so to speak, her tendencies and where she will retreat to in stressful situations, from what I know the south node is the Achilles Heel. It is one of the weakest spots, and its placement in the chart point to many things such as drugs, alcohol, psychological problems, sedition, assassination, and suicide. the north node being Karmatic, and identififing self, present and future paths in the 6th house of health, I am wondering if this could possibly mean that Tara could try and commit suiside. Retreating to drugs, alchol or even suicide, and taking with her anything that she may know about Tori, I am probably reading this totally wrong and if so I do apologize.
As you can tell I am not really good at articulating what I am trying to say thats why I dont express my opinion much in here. I hope this makes since.
 
butterfly1978 said:
Thanks you Tuba, I am really trying so hard to learn this stuff, and I am scared to ask for fear I'll be wrong, and you guys have such a great track record, you are so accurate.
The reason I was asking about the importance of the North Node in the 6th house of Health and possible suicide , is because the South node being in the 12th house we see the kind of life Tara has lead, her nature so to speak, her tendencies and where she will retreat to in stressful situations, from what I know the south node is the Achilles Heel. It is one of the weakest spots, and its placement in the chart point to many things such as drugs, alcohol, psychological problems, sedition, assassination, and suicide. the north node being Karmatic, and identififing self, present and future paths in the 6th house of health, I am wondering if this could possibly mean that Tara could try and commit suiside. Retreating to drugs, alchol or even suicide, and taking with her anything that she may know about Tori, I am probably reading this totally wrong and if so I do apologize.
As you can tell I am not really good at articulating what I am trying to say thats why I dont express my opinion much in here. I hope this makes since.
Click to expand...

Hi Butterfly,

I'm not an astrologer and can't read charts but from my previous posts and not to sound repetitive I have strong instinct about this case, the mother's thoughts of suicide if they don't find her daughter is something I have very much felt and when I just read your post I would assume that you are correct in your chart analysis..let's wait and see what the astros say..I think your dead on
 
That would be so tragic if Tara did commit suicide, for Daryn. Look at all he's dealing with as it is.
 
Guys, I am seriously learning just learning astrology. I am not saying that Tara would commit suicide. I was asking if thats what the other astrologers see, if I am reading it right. I am just asking please do not take itas anything other than a question, because I am no where near claiming to understand all of astrology. I have only been studying astrology since December. These guys, Soulscape, Tuba, housemouse have been doing it for years..
I was only asking if they see it to be a possability, but you also have to keep in mind this chart was done for an event based on the press confrence Tara gave about the Limo ride and if she was telling the truth, I just tried to see if I could see anything other than just that from the chart. Until it is validated by one of the real astros please just take it as a question, and nothing more.
Thanks!!
 
I joined the Woodstock Courts forum, so we may eventually learn what time the criminal cases are called on Tuesday. Just keep Js. Goris in mind and you may see some mention of him in the news and then we can go to work.
 
Tuba, can you give a link for the forum. Thanks, Diane
 
Sure, here it is:

http://www.ontariocourts.on.ca

I have the feeling that court convenes in the morning at a regular time. Just as in the U.S., criminal court meets on Tuesdays. Maybe someone who is enough involved to be a member and who lives there will give us that time. Good luck!
 
Astros all: There is a ton of stuff going on right now - too much to keep up with for sure. Just a simple question: Have any of you had an opportunity to run a chart of Rodney Stafford (Tori's biological dad) based on the birthdate supplied. Honestly I am not pushing - not the type - just thinking that maybe with every case that is open right now that there simply has not been time to do anything with it?
 
Tuba said:
Sure, here it is:

http://www.ontariocourts.on.ca

I have the feeling that court convenes in the morning at a regular time. Just as in the U.S., criminal court meets on Tuesdays. Maybe someone who is enough involved to be a member and who lives there will give us that time. Good luck!
Click to expand...

Hey there! I do believe that court convenes at 10:00 am in Ontario. However I do not know what time Js. Goris would have appeared before the judge. Usually there are a number of cases on a list that the court will address for the day and they simply go down the list. Hope this helps :)
 
Thank you, Justice. That is the way procedure is handled in the States, too. I was hoping there might have been so few crimes in Woodstock that the snowblowers would have been the only defendants calendared. But 10:00 a.m. E.D.S.T. gives us a platform to work from. Of course there is also the problem of separating him from his co-defendants. I think this can be done & I will look into it. Thanks again.
 
Because Mercury is in the House of machines, appliances and work horse mechanical helpers, and money (Taurus) is involved, it does seem that this case was called first but it could have been the crime of vehicular homicide that was up first; however, a child would have been the victim there as well. Or the crime could have been violent vengeance for a gambling debt or violent robbery of a gambling den.
 
Tuba said:
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/CtAppearanceWoodstock051.jpg

Hi Tuba,

This is the chart for the convening of court in Woodstock, Ontario on 15 April, 2009. There are three defendants in the snowblower theft & recp't of stolen goods.
Click to expand...

I looked at your chart and notes .. now I have no clue how to read charts, would love to learn. But does this show he may have some role in Tori's disappearance???

Also, would you be able to do a chart based on the court hearing going on with the Bandito murders that occurred in Shedden, Ontario with Tara McDonald, or even the actual day it happened. I believe her step-brother Michael Harris is the one who testified against them as a police informant.

http://www.lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/2009/03/31/8955591.html

Along with details of the feud, the jury learned it will hear from a police informant, known as M.H., who will testify to being at Wayne Kellestine’s Dutton-Dunwich farm, southwest of London, when the eight men were shot to death, and about the problems inside the Canadian Bandido fraternity.

It's odd that this massacre happened 3 years to the day prior to Tori's abduction. A violent biker gang, such as this one who knows the informant would be capable of doing something like this.

Date of Massacre: April 8, 2006
Date Trial Started: March 31, 2009
Date of Trial: May 8, 2009
Time Assumed: 10 am
Police Statement: April 8, 2006
Time: 4:20 p.m.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/04/01/f-mass-murder-timeline.html

4:20 p.m.
At a news conference, police say all the dead are adult males, but offer few other details. "We're not in a position to reveal how they were murdered," says OPP Sgt. Dave Rektor. "I won't confirm at this point what the persons were killed by."


six accused —

Wayne Kellestine, 60, DOB May 1, 1949 of Dutton-Dunwich;
http://www.lfpress.com/specialreports/bandidostrial.html
Frank Mather, 35, of Dutton-Dunwich;
Brett Gardiner, 24, of no fixed address;
Michael Sandham, 39, of Winnipeg
Marcelo Aravena, 33, of Winnipeg
Dwight Mushey, 41, of Winnipeg

An anonymous person has testified .. do not know when he did. But his initials are M.H. I'm wondering if this is the connection .. Michael Harris is Tara McDonald's step-brother. In highschool, she went by the last name of Harris. The big guy that is some times seen at presses is her step- brother Jim Harris.

8 Bandito gang members murdered.

http://www.lfpress.com/specialreports/bandidostrial.html

Time Line of the Bandito Massacre

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/04/01/f-mass-murder-timeline.html

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090414/bandidos_trial/20090414?hub=TorontoHome
 
Tuba said:
Because Mercury is in the House of machines, appliances and work horse mechanical helpers, and money (Taurus) is involved, it does seem that this case was called first but it could have been the crime of vehicular homicide that was up first; however, a child would have been the victim there as well. Or the crime could have been violent vengeance for a gambling debt or violent robbery of a gambling den.
Click to expand...

I understand what you were saying now.
 
Another note to do with the Bandito Gang Massacre trial, Wayne Kellestine - DOB May 1, 1949 seemed to have been the leader of this gang that did this murder. He has a long history of violence and crime with this gang. The massacre happened on his property.

Can you do a chart on Wayne Kellestine to see if he has anything to do with ordering Tori's disappearance, this is assuming the police informant testifying is Tara's step-brother Michael Harris?

Name: Wayne Kellestine - DOB May 1, 1949
DOB found at http://www.lfpress.com/specialreport...idostrial.html
Date of Start of Trial: March 31, 2009
Assumed Time: 10 am
Original Police Statement Date to Media: April 8, 2006
Time: 4:20 p.m.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/...-timeline.html
 
I was reading your posts about the Bandido's in Ontario...one of the members that was killed in 2006 was from Montreal, we went to the same school and he was part of the community here. I hadn't seen him in a long time and found out he was killed and part of a gang years later, I was shocked! Believe or not he was a VERY smart guy....or so I thought. If you need more info on what happened his name was Jamie Flanz....still can't believe it. Here's a link to some info, not sure if this will help...wow this just brought back something I haven't thought about in a while!

http://www.lfpress.com/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=130826&x=articles&s=massacre
 
We've been saying that it is entirely possible Tara M. knows more than she is saying. I can't believe I didn't chart her press invitations. Does anyone know the date of the first one?
 
Tuba said:
We've been saying that it is entirely possible Tara M. knows more than she is saying. I can't believe I didn't chart her press invitations. Does anyone know the date of the first one?
Click to expand...

April 11, 2009

Father of missing Ont. girl refusing to sleep

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Father+missing+girl+refusing+sleep+family/1485070/story.html

This is the 1st news article I can find that Tara speaks, but is not her 1st press of many presses. I think this is the first time she went public about Tori.

“We’ve had a gracious donation of a $10,000 award, so to anybody who can drop off Victoria safely, there will be no questions asked,” said Tori’s mother, Tara MacDonald.

“We just want her home safely.”


MacDonald and her husband, James Goris, refused all media calls Friday.


Tara's first of her daily press conferences start on April 16, 2009

Mom dispels 'lies'
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/04/16/9129101-sun.html
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

DNASolves

Who is DeKalb County John Doe (2022)?

Members online

... and 67 more.
Total: 2,886 (members: 68, guests: 2,818)

Online statistics

Members online
68
Guests online
2,818
Total visitors
2,886
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
602,720
Messages
18,145,800
Members
231,503
Latest member
PKBB
Back
Top