France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

[Foxfire]

"Refugee resettlement is the least likely route for potential terrorists, says Kathleen Newland at the Migration Policy Institute, a think-tank. Of the 745,000 refugees resettled since September 11th, only two Iraqis in Kentucky have been arrested on terrorist charges, for aiding al-Qaeda in Iraq."

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...ng?fsrc=scn/tw/te/pe/ed/yearningtobreathefree

Doubt these numb3rs are accurate, Montjoy. Boston Marathon bombers? The Tsarnaev's immigrated to the U.S. in 2002..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosto...n_of_suspects:_Dzhokhar_and_Tamerlan_Tsarnaev
The Tsarnaev family emigrated in 2002 to the United States, where they applied for refugee status.

 

[cottonweaver]

I do hope they can extend the state of emergency by a few more days in order to take the unprecedented opportunity to make a thorough sweep through the premises of known extremists

French prime minister Manuel Valls has said at least 150 raids have been carried out by police.
French prime minister Manuel Valls has warned new terror attacks are being planned in France and in other European countries following the carnage in Paris.

“We know that operations were being prepared and are still being prepared, not only against France but other European countries too,” he said, speaking on France’s RTL radio station.

“We are making use of the legal framework of the state of emergency to question people who are part of the radical jihadist movement... and all those who advocate hate of the republic,” Valls said.

Police raids carried out :
Near Toulouse - 3 arrests, 1 weapon & cannabis, not related to the Paris attacks.
Lyon - 5 arrests. Police say they uncovered a “war arsenal” and weapons seizures included a rocket launcher, flack jackets, several pistols and a Kalashnikov assault rifle
Thirteen police raids in total were carried out in the Lyon area
Paris area - searches & interviews related to the Paris attack

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live

 

[cottonweaver]

Paris prosecutors have identified two suicide bombers from Friday’s attacks as Ahmad Al Mohammad and Samy Amimour.
The majority of the total suspects however are still European nationals, 1 appears to be a recently arrived refugee.

Ahmad Al Mohammad
Al Mohammad, the bomber who targeted the Stade de France, is now definitively linked by authorities to the Syrian passport found near his body. He was born on September 10th, 19990 in Idlib, Syria, according to the passport.

The passport was registered by a refugee who landed on a Greek island, Leros, on 7 October. The Serbian newspaper Blic said he crossed into the country on 7 October, having arrived four days earlier in Leros.

Samy Amimour
Amimour, one of the suicide bombers at the Bataclan theatre, was born on 15 October 1987 in Paris, from the north-eastern suburb of Drancy.

He was known to French authorities before the attack.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live

 

[cottonweaver]

One of the suicide bombers, Brahim Abdeslam, in the Paris attacks had links to a Belgian Islamic State militant believed to be the mastermind of a jihadist cell dismantled in January, Flemish-language newspaper De Standaard reported.

Brahim Abdeslam appears in several police files linked to the extremist leader Abdelhamid Abaaoud relating to criminal cases in 2010 and 2011,

So, despite raids in january 2015 leading to "dismantling",this p.o.s still managed to go on to attack Paris in November!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live

 

[FindHG]

"BREAKING: French prosecutor says unable to authenticate Syrian passport found at Stade de France suicide bombing"

https://twitter.com/Reuters?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author



The Latest: Prosecutors say 2 more attackers identified
AP
Nov. 16, 2015 4:24 AM EST

10:15 a.m.
"The Paris prosecutor's office says two more suicide bombers involved in deadly attacks in the French capital have been identified.

Prosecutors said Monday that one suicide bomber who blew himself up in the Bataclan music hall Friday night was Samy Amimour, a 28-year-old Frenchman charged in a terrorism investigation in 2012. He had been placed under judicial supervision but dropped off the radar and was the subject of an international arrest warrant.

Prosecutors say three people in Amimour's family entourage have been in custody since early Monday.

A suicide bomber who blew himself up outside the national soccer stadium was found with a Syrian passport with the name Ahmad Al Mohammad, a 25-year-old born in Idlib. The prosecutor's office says fingerprints from the attacker match those of someone who passed through Greece in October."



Suspected Paris bomber Samy Amimour went to Syria two years ago: family

Police detain 3 relatives of newly-identified Paris bomber: prosecutor

One of Paris bombers previously charged with 'terrorist' offence: prosecutor
https://twitter.com/AFP?ref_src=twsrc^tfw



There were some previously report edgy moments in various parts of Paris, but the people kept visiting the Square

Passport corresponds to a person who moved through Greece, but sure if it is real though.

Five attacker ID'd

http://www.france24.com/en/

 

[cottonweaver]

Not going to attach the video of this moron, but it's at the link provided if anyone .....

A rap video has emerged that appears to show Omar Ismail Mostefai, the suicide bomber who helped kill 89 people at the Bataclan theatre on Friday night.
The 29-year-old was identified from a print on one of his severed fingers found at the concert hall, where he had helped to massacre 89 people.
Mostefai grew up on a housing estate in Courcouronnes, a southern Paris suburb, with a Portuguese mother who had reportedly converted to Islam after she married his Algerian father. He is known to have travelled to Syria in late 2013, returning last year.

Hafid Ouzi, 29, a school friend of Mostefai, told the Times that he had regularly clashed with police.

Omar was weak. He had bad friends and got in some trouble with them, but it was nothing that was serious. He stole a few things from shops, but all the kids do that.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live

 

[cottonweaver]

In France, all 278,000 police officers carry guns. The corresponding figure in Britain is just 6,000, so the assurances from the Home Secretary, Theresa May, that procedures are ‘in place’ to deal with rapidly moving terrorist situations are greeted with deep scepticism

For while the French can throw hundreds of armed police on to the streets of Paris within minutes, and thousands within an hour or so, we simply can’t.
Like a fire sweeping through an occupied house, minutes count if lives are to be saved in terrorist atrocities.

Most police officers attending terrorist incidents are virtual spectators until an armed response vehicle (ARV) can be summoned to the scene.
The lack of ARVs has caused real concern among officers, particularly those in smaller, more rural forces, who believe they and the public are being placed at intolerable risk on a daily basis.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...her-toll-attack-happens-UK.html#ixzz3re8DxYzU

And here in UK, we are told by police, that they are making "one arrest per day" on suspicion of terrorism etc, but we never hear how many convictions result..... And then if we do make a successful conviction we bung them in prison wings with other hard line radicals...... Am i missing something, isn't that just an obvious ' what-not-to-do"?
We also hear that there are at least 2000 persons of interest living in the UK. So imagine how many more are unknown to UK security services.

 

[FindHG]

Bernard Cazeneuve, Minister of the Interior

6 attacks foiled since Spring

203 not permitted to leave

60 not let in

87 admin watch

6 revoked french citizenship

34 expelled

Re imams who preach hate: several months of evidence that will lead to banning of religious orgs, proceeding in courts

State Emergency accelerated

Mobilized security forces... admin searches conducted

104 house arrest of those followed closely

168 raids of homes of families' of people suspected, if not directly linked

which enabled accelerated investigations in 19 departments, across France, no part neglected, on maximum level of alert

this led to, for your information, ladies and gentlemen

23 arrested

31 gun?

19 guns?

4 Rocket launchers in Lyon (not sure)

18 drugs

IT material, telephones, mobiles, etc..

Rhone County, where there's a drug presence they found AKs, 3 pistol, bullet proof jackets

Found rocket launchers in homes through the investigation as well

Gangster world and terrorism overlap, fully aware of the fact, total large scale complete effort, terrorist their criminal accomplices, ?mobilizing and radical imams who preach hatred

in the face of barbarity, one way forward, for the citizen of France we have an implacable response

... the Republic that will destroy them

http://www.france24.com/en/ livestream (duh paraphrase. More accurate to come)





The Latest on Paris attacks: French official says Belgian suspected of directing attacks:

BREAKING: French official says suspected attacks mastermind linked to thwarted train and church attacks.

https://twitter.com/AP

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[cottonweaver]

Posters might complain that this is the Daily Mail - but the same report appears in other French newspapers

The mother of a Paris suicide bomber says her son 'did not mean to kill anyone' - and claims he may have blown himself up because of stress.
Ibrahim Abdeslam, 31, launched a solo attack outside the cafe Comptoir Voltaire, close to the scene of the Bataclan concert hall massacre on Friday night.
His brother Mohamed Abdeslam, a former council worker, was arrested in Molenbeek in western Brussels, a day after the attacks in the French capital, in which at least 129 were killed and hundreds more were injured.
Police missed their chance to bring in the third brother, Salah, when he was questioned as he crossed the border to Belgium after the attacks. He is now the object of a massive international manhunt.

Speaking outside the family home, the Abdeslam family claimed that they were ‘surprised’ that Ibrahim blew himself up near the Stade de France, even though he had spent time in Syria.
Their mother, speaking to a reporter through her nephew - the bombers' cousin - on the doorstep of the family home in Molenbeek, told Het Laatste Nieuws that they were sure he had not planned to kill anyone.
‘This was not his plan, that's for sure,' she said. 'The fact that his suicide belt exploded without killing anyone says a lot.'
The family added: ‘We even saw him two days before the attacks. There were no signs that they has plans to do anything violent.’
The family admitted he had spent ‘a long time’ in Syria.
‘We were really surprised that Salah was involved. Ibrahim was different. We did see that he had been radicalised, at least in part. But not so much that we ever thought he would commit an atrocity like this.’

Another family member at the brothers’ home claimed that he would not have wanted to become a suicide bomber: ‘Maybe the explosives went off prematurely by accident. Maybe it was stress.’
Prosecutors have identified Ibrahim, who seriously injured a bystander when he detonated his suicide bomb, as the man who rented a Seat car used in the attacks.
The vehicle was used by the terrorists who murdered diners outside the Casa Nostra pizza restaurant and the La Belle Équipe cafe.
It was found abandoned 20 minutes away in Montreuil with a cache of weapons inside.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-kill-claims-blown-STRESS.html#ixzz3reCZaeq8

Families HAVE to start reporting family members suspected of travelling to Syria etc - how can this be encouraged? Answers on the back of a postcard please?

 

[cottonweaver]

Turkey told France twice about Bataclan bomber

A Turkish official has told the Guardian that French authorities were informed twice about the suicide bomber Omar Ismail Mostefai by Turkey, but only received an information request about him after the Paris bombing.

The official said Mostefai entered Turkey in 2013 and there is no record of him leaving the country.

On October 10, 2014, Turkey received an information request regarding four terror suspects from the French authorities - but Mostefai was not among the four.

During that official investigation, the Turkish authorities identified Mostefai and notified their French counterparts twice –in December 2014 and June 2015, the official said.

“We have, however, not heard back from France on the matter,” the official said. “It was only after the Paris attacks that the Turkish authorities received an information request about Omar Ismail Mostefai from France.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live

 

[cottonweaver]

The mayor of Leros, Mihalis Kolias, warned: ‘So many people are passing through our island and now we know among them are terrorists. This is a big problem for Europe. We must have more security.’
Each week thousands of refugees land on neighbouring Farmakonisi before they are picked up by the Greek coastguard and taken to the largest town on Leros, Lakki.

Humanitarian aid workers and island officials last night confirmed every arrival was given documents permitting onward travel no matter what their circumstances.
When asked how many of the migrants coming to the island are issued the papers, Mr Kolias said: ‘Everyone.’ He said people believed to be from Syria are given documents allowing them to travel through Greece for six months.
A volunteer in a refugee camp next to the quay in Lakki replied ‘That does not happen’ when asked whether refugees were ever refused papers.

A group of around 40 people claiming to have fled from Afghanistan were last night due to leave for Athens despite not having identification such as passports.
Mr Kolias said there had been a minimum of 500 people coming daily to his island, which has a population of 8,000.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...smiling-decapitated-bodies.html#ixzz3reNNT69e

 

[cottonweaver]

The more you find out, the worse it gets.....another had been arrested earlier, then released

The suspected suicide bomber reached Greece after crossing the Aegean from Turkey with 198 migrants on a raft that was rescued when it started to sink. The 25-year-old claimed asylum last month on the tiny island of Leros using a suspected fake passport in the name of Ahmad Almohammad.
He was arrested but later released and given papers that allowed him to travel to Athens and mainland Europe because officials believed he was a genuine refugee.
He was allowed to travel through the Balkans, passing through checkpoints in Serbia and Croatia, before heading for Northern Europe.
Greece identified him after the passport he used was found near the body of one of the gang near the Stade de France attack site.
The French have not confirmed the refugee connection but Greece’s migration minister, Yannis Mouzalas, last night said ‘Almohammad’ was presumed to be a terrorist. Two other bombers were said to be carrying fake Turkish passports.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...smiling-decapitated-bodies.html#ixzz3reOOwWvN

 

[Sonya610]

Families HAVE to start reporting family members suspected of travelling to Syria etc - how can this be encouraged? Answers on the back of a postcard please?

Why do they have to? Seriously? The family won't be punished, if they are living on subsidies they won't have their privileges taken away. They don't have to report ANYTHING.

The terrorists don't care about their own lives but they MIGHT care about the lives of their families (and even if they don't who cares, birds of a feather and all that). I would change the laws and state anyone involved in radical activities gets booted along with their family. The Caliphate wants more people so send them whole lot of them there.

Switzerland already passed a similar law stating if immigrants are raising criminal offspring the whole family will be deported.

Course I am one of those heartless people (in fact half Swiss) that cares about protecting the country and the innocent citizens more than taking in every potentially dangerous asylum seeker with a sad story.

 

[ZaZara]

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 3 min.

BREAKING: 8th suspect who fled from #ParisAttacks Salah Abdeslam has been arrested in #Molenbeek #Belgium by police - @News_Executive


BBM

 

[FindHG]

Minute of silence, shortly in about three minutes

Belgian police conducting raids. A cordoned situation [but no indication of violence], a couple of detonations heard.

One person detained but not one of the attackers

http://www.france24.com/en/

 

[ZaZara]

Patrick Pelloux ‏@PatrickPelloux 28 sec.

Faisons une minute de silence


RIP

 

[Elley Mae]

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 3 min.

BREAKING: 8th suspect who fled from #ParisAttacks Salah Abdeslam has been arrested in #Molenbeek #Belgium by police - @News_Executive


BBM

Sounds like that place, Molenbeek needs to be closed. seems to be a breeding ground for evil doers. jmo idk

 

[Trino]

Interesting that we haven't heard a peep from Saudi Arabia.

 

[Friday Fan]

Doubt these numb3rs are accurate, Montjoy. Boston Marathon bombers? The Tsarnaev's immigrated to the U.S. in 2002..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosto...n_of_suspects:_Dzhokhar_and_Tamerlan_Tsarnaev
The Tsarnaev family emigrated in 2002 to the United States, where they applied for refugee status.

I don't want to sound picky, but the Tsarnaev's were Chechen not Arab. To the best of my knowledge Tamerlan was radicalized via the internet and during a visit to Dagestan in Russia. We've had several homegrown terrorists Somalians etc. I know we've arrested dozens of homegrown terrorists and have no idea whether they were "refugees" or not. To the best of my knowledge, the 9/11 conspirators weren't refugees, but here on Visas.

Back to the Tsarnaevs: Do we deny entrance based on religion? Chechens don't have a history of terrorism in the US. However, the FBI dropped the ball on Tamerlan. We had info from Russia that he was radicalized and he was allowed to return.

ETA: I don't want sound like I'm not concerned about Syrian refugees coming to the US.

 

[FindHG]

A Belgian national who is currently in Syria is suspected of being behind Friday's attacks in Paris, acccording to a source close to the French investigation.

"He appears to be the brains behind several planned attacks in Europe," the source told Reuters, adding that the man, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was the investigators' best lead as the person likely behind the killing of at least 129 people in Paris on Friday.

According to RTL Radio, Abaaoud is a 27 year-old from the Molenbeek suburb of Brussels, home to other members of the militant Islamist cell that carried out the attacks.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Paris_attacks_2?utm_source=twitter

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