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http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/gmw%3A-missing-carrollton-man-060310


CARROLLTON, Ga. - Thirty-nine-year old Brian Wehrle vanished without a trace back in September and although he disappeared at the height of Georgia's record floods, police now believe foul play and not severe weather was at work.

Wehrle was staying at his parents' house in Carrolton on September 24, 2009. Wehrle's family showed has kept everything in the room where he was staying the same since he disappeared without a trace from a crumpled dollar by the bed to a travel bag on the bed. Everything in the bag has been accounted for including his medications.

Wehrle's sister, Anita Gay said the family needs answers.
"We love him and we miss him and we want to know what happened to him," said Gay.
A $10,000 reward is now being offered for information leading to Wehrle's whereabouts or the people responsible for his disappearance.

..more at link.. video also
 
This says Brian was seen at 2am by neighbor...I thought it was determined his car was seen in driveway, not Brian himself...I can't remember now...:(
 
cluciano63 said:
This says Brian was seen at 2am by neighbor...I thought it was determined his car was seen in driveway, not Brian himself...I can't remember now...:(
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I think a neighbor saw Brian outside by a carport and his Buick was there.
 
I just got caught on this case.

It states in a Times-Georgian article that he had an 930 appt. with Carroll County Probate Court. My only familiarity with probate court is when a will is in probate. Did one of his family members die and he was the Executor? Probate court is generally drama filled when it comes to wills or was he, since he was a surveyor, doing some research?
 
crystalgenie said:
I just got caught on this case.

It states in a Times-Georgian article that he had an 930 appt. with Carroll County Probate Court. My only familiarity with probate court is when a will is in probate. Did one of his family members die and he was the Executor? Probate court is generally drama filled when it comes to wills or was he, since he was a surveyor, doing some research?
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As I recall, his mother was supposed to be going to a nursing home or assisted living place. There was supposedly an important meeting that morning about his mother. It is possible (and this is speculation on my part) that his mother was being declared legally incompetent and that was being done through the probate court.

I'm not familiar with how things work in GA, but maybe we can get some information through the grapevine here from the family.
 
ADULT GUARDIANSHIPS AND CONSERVATORSHIPS

Probate courts have jurisdiction over the appointment and supervision of guardians and conservators of adult persons found to be incapacitated by reason of physical or mental illness to such an extent that the adult is no longer capable of making reasonable and rational decisions concerning his or her person or of managing his or her money and property.

http://www.gaprobate.org/guardianship.php

I am not casting any aspersions nor do I want anyone to get the impression that I am. That being said, things can't get nasty in probate courts whether it is a will in probate or guardianship. I know his family and partner are devastated but outside of the family I wonder if anyone had a stake in it.

A man that has had as many health issues as he did just doesn't leave without his meds.

As far as the car being found in Chattanooga and apparently no viable fingerprints, that makes me wonder if someone didn't drive up I-75 and ditch it. All the change and the container would have been gone. I doubt the car was there long and I also doubt that any thieves had been in it. The car was in a bad area of Chattanooga. (I used to live in Chattanooga awhile back.)

What about ex-boyfriends? Any jealous ones or anyone around him that he might have been attempting to help out of any situations? He seems like a very kind man and people like him (my friend is one) tend to take on strays with less than positive behavior.
 
It was said that Brian was seen by his car around 2;30am by neighbors.
The neighbors had known Brian for years.
The same person left for work at 830am and did not see the car at that time.

Brian was in town about his mother's care. She was showing signs of possible
Alzheimer's.
His father is deceased.
http://www.martin-hightower.com/sitemaker/sites/martin0/obit.cgi?user=johnwehrle

Ex boyfriends? I don't know anything about that possibility.
I do know that Brian and his partner, Jeffrey R have been together for 14 years.
(if I remember correctly)

I do think he would help out someone in trouble.

Hoping Brian can be found soon.
 
http://times-georgian.com/view/full...issing-man-case?instance=TG_home_story_offset

A local ground and aerial search was conducted after Wehrle’s disappearance. Investigators then traveled to Chattanooga in December to investigate and will go back again next week to distribute fliers depicting both Wehrle and his car.

The best investigators can determine is that a black male, in his 20s, with a slender build and wearing a short sleeve black shirt and dark pants, was seen parking the car on Judson Lane at Chamberlain Avenue North in Chattanooga during the last week in October. It remained in that location for more than a month before attracting any attention.


Chattanooga police found Wehrle’s vehicle, with keys still in the ignition, while investigating a
robbery in which a similar vehicle had been used.

Johnson said that the condition in which the car was found indicated that only the driver had occupied the car recently, with Wehrle’s science-fiction novel with a Carrollton Taco Bell receipt from Sept. 23 in the front passenger seat,........................

bbm: In reading this article again, I was reminded of some things.
And LE will be back in Chattanooga this week. ?Am I reading that correctly?​
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crystalgenie said:
ADULT GUARDIANSHIPS AND CONSERVATORSHIPS

Probate courts have jurisdiction over the appointment and supervision of guardians and conservators of adult persons found to be incapacitated by reason of physical or mental illness to such an extent that the adult is no longer capable of making reasonable and rational decisions concerning his or her person or of managing his or her money and property.

http://www.gaprobate.org/guardianship.php

I am not casting any aspersions nor do I want anyone to get the impression that I am. That being said, things can't get nasty in probate courts whether it is a will in probate or guardianship. I know his family and partner are devastated but outside of the family I wonder if anyone had a stake in it.

A man that has had as many health issues as he did just doesn't leave without his meds.

As far as the car being found in Chattanooga and apparently no viable fingerprints, that makes me wonder if someone didn't drive up I-75 and ditch it. All the change and the container would have been gone. I doubt the car was there long and I also doubt that any thieves had been in it. The car was in a bad area of Chattanooga. (I used to live in Chattanooga awhile back.)

What about ex-boyfriends? Any jealous ones or anyone around him that he might have been attempting to help out of any situations? He seems like a very kind man and people like him (my friend is one) tend to take on strays with less than positive behavior.
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bolded by me.

I don't see this as a dispute about money. Brian was one of what like 10 kids? Not sure what Mama Wehrle is worth but unless someone is going to go through the plot of "And Then There Were None" (where 10 people were bumped off mysteriously - Agatha Christie novel) I don't think his share amounts to all that much.

Also, some of the feedback from family we got through dreamweaver shows that Brian really did not warm up to strangers. Maybe my spin on it, but I seriously doubt he was picking up a stranger on the streets of Carrollton at 3 a.m.
 
dreamweaver said:
http://times-georgian.com/view/full...issing-man-case?instance=TG_home_story_offset

A local ground and aerial search was conducted after Wehrle’s disappearance. Investigators then traveled to Chattanooga in December to investigate and will go back again next week to distribute fliers depicting both Wehrle and his car.

The best investigators can determine is that a black male, in his 20s, with a slender build and wearing a short sleeve black shirt and dark pants, was seen parking the car on Judson Lane at Chamberlain Avenue North in Chattanooga during the last week in October. It remained in that location for more than a month before attracting any attention.


Chattanooga police found Wehrle’s vehicle, with keys still in the ignition, while investigating a
robbery in which a similar vehicle had been used.

Johnson said that the condition in which the car was found indicated that only the driver had occupied the car recently, with Wehrle’s science-fiction novel with a Carrollton Taco Bell receipt from Sept. 23 in the front passenger seat,........................

bbm: In reading this article again, I was reminded of some things.
And LE will be back in Chattanooga this week. ?Am I reading that correctly?​
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It was stated after the car was found that they only wanted to talk to the black guy about where he got the car. No one seemed to think that the guy who parked it in Chattanooga a full month after Brian vanished actually was involved in that event.

What is really bizarre, and to me more or less debunks any victim of crime theory, is that the car was found in exactly the same shape it was when Brian last had the car. it is almost as if it was stashed in a garage for a month (with the key) before someone placed it in Chattanooga.
 
dreamweaver said:
http://times-georgian.com/view/full...issing-man-case?instance=TG_home_story_offset
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Here is an interesting piece of the article:

Wehrle, 40, called his niece Rickles, of Akron, Ohio, from his cell phone the afternoon before his Sept. 24 disappearance. He drove to the Taco Bell in Carrollton after working in his parents’ yard and talked to Rickles in the parking lot before getting his food. Rickles found it ironic that she was in a Mexican restaurant herself when he called at about 3 p.m. Sept. 23.

As they were talking, she said, Wehrle told her he met some people he did not know on his way to Carrollton from Atlanta on Sept. 22.

Because of the historic flooding at the time, a normally hour-long drive from Atlanta to visit his family in Carrollton took nearly four hours.

“He got frustrated with traffic so he pulled over to have a drink,” Rickles said.

That’s when he met some “really interesting” people, he told his niece before continuing his conversation about the trip.


I thought he had stopped at a Taco Bell en route from Atlanta to Carrollton when he met these 'interesting people'. Now we learn the Taco Bell in question was in Carrollton where he ate after making it to Carrollton. Then there is reference to him stopping for a drink en route when he met the interesting people.

I am confused. Did Brian meet 'interesting people' in two locations or just en route?

I don't put much stock in this chance encounter - if it was en route then there is no way these people would have followed him to Carrollton and wait until 3 a.m. or later to harm him.
 
webrocket said:
Here is an interesting piece of the article:

Wehrle, 40, called his niece Rickles, of Akron, Ohio, from his cell phone the afternoon before his Sept. 24 disappearance. He drove to the Taco Bell in Carrollton after working in his parents’ yard and talked to Rickles in the parking lot before getting his food. Rickles found it ironic that she was in a Mexican restaurant herself when he called at about 3 p.m. Sept. 23.

As they were talking, she said, Wehrle told her he met some people he did not know on his way to Carrollton from Atlanta on Sept. 22.

Because of the historic flooding at the time, a normally hour-long drive from Atlanta to visit his family in Carrollton took nearly four hours.

“He got frustrated with traffic so he pulled over to have a drink,” Rickles said.

That’s when he met some “really interesting” people, he told his niece before continuing his conversation about the trip.


I thought he had stopped at a Taco Bell en route from Atlanta to Carrollton when he met these 'interesting people'. Now we learn the Taco Bell in question was in Carrollton where he ate after making it to Carrollton. Then there is reference to him stopping for a drink en route when he met the interesting people.

I am confused. Did Brian meet 'interesting people' in two locations or just en route?

I don't put much stock in this chance encounter - if it was en route then there is no way these people would have followed him to Carrollton and wait until 3 a.m. or later to harm him.
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I had not noted that phone call that Brian had with his niece in Ohio, but
I did bold that part about the Taco Bell receipt was on 9/23/2009.
I thought the same as you webrocket,
that Brian's TB receipt was from his trip Atlanta to Carrollton.
 
webrocket said:
bolded by me.

I don't see this as a dispute about money. Brian was one of what like 10 kids? Not sure what Mama Wehrle is worth but unless someone is going to go through the plot of "And Then There Were None" (where 10 people were bumped off mysteriously - Agatha Christie novel) I don't think his share amounts to all that much.

Also, some of the feedback from family we got through dreamweaver shows that Brian really did not warm up to strangers. Maybe my spin on it, but I seriously doubt he was picking up a stranger on the streets of Carrollton at 3 a.m.
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No I didn't mean picking up a stranger. Okay. I am just going to say it. I have a lot of male friends who are gay. The gay community tends to be very supportive of its members. The older members of the community, who have been out of the closet for awhile, tend to help the younger ones. Kinda like a big brother sort of thing. I was just wondering if Brian or his partner might have been involved in any outreach activities, in the gay community. That sort of activity may have brought him into contact with the person who did something to him.

I was just throwing the idea of probate out there because people have been known to kill for twenty bucks but I was thinking more about the land. Did his parents own a lot of land. I also realize he comes from a large family but if they were thinking of putting Mom into some sort of senior living situation generally all property has to be sold.

I'm sorry for butting in here I just read Brian's forum and figured I throw out some ideas...
 
dreamweaver said:
I had not noted that phone call that Brian had with his niece in Ohio, but
I did bold that part about the Taco Bell receipt was on 9/23/2009.
I thought the same as you webrocket,
that Brian's TB receipt was from his trip over to Chattanooga.
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I think you meant from Atlanta to Carrollton. He mentioned Taco Bell in a phone call so it had to be before he disappeared.
 
webrocket said:
I think you meant from Atlanta to Carrollton. He mentioned Taco Bell in a phone call so it had to be before he disappeared.
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Yes, correction noted. Atlanta to Carrollton...

Corrected original post.
 
crystalgenie said:
No I didn't mean picking up a stranger. Okay. I am just going to say it. I have a lot of male friends who are gay. The gay community tends to be very supportive of its members. The older members of the community, who have been out of the closet for awhile, tend to help the younger ones. Kinda like a big brother sort of thing. I was just wondering if Brian or his partner might have been involved in any outreach activities, in the gay community. That sort of activity may have brought him into contact with the person who did something to him.

I was just throwing the idea of probate out there because people have been known to kill for twenty bucks but I was thinking more about the land. Did his parents own a lot of land. I also realize he comes from a large family but if they were thinking of putting Mom into some sort of senior living situation generally all property has to be sold.

I'm sorry for butting in here I just read Brian's forum and figured I throw out some ideas...
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Glad you are here on this thread!

I don't know about any outreach but it is a really good question.
And maybe someone from the Carrollton neighborhood?
 
Georgia Man Arrested for Threatening Elton John, Runs Web Site Calling for Death to Gay Kenyans

When we first reported on three American anti-gay activists traveling to Kampala for a three-day conference, we had no idea that it would be the first report of a long string of events leading to a proposal to institute the death penalty for LGBT people.

http://politifi.com/news/Georgia-Ma...-Calling-for-Death-to-Gay-Kenyans-277424.html

Neal Horsley

The video showed Horsley holding the sign in front of what he believed to be John's condo in Carrollton, although John's publicist refused to confirm the exact location of his house in the Atlanta metropolitan area

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Horsley

Not saying this jerk has anything to do with Brian's disappearance but he runs a hate organization. From what I've read he is pretty much anti everything. Carrollton may have an undercurrent of anti-gay zealotry in certain areas since apparently he has a home there, possibly other like-minded people around. The only reason I bring this up is because Brian was obviously out of the closet because I noticed he and his partner were listed together in his father's obit.

Just another thought. IMO.
 
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