GA - Ex-POTUS Donald Trump and others indicted, 13 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, Aug 2023 *4 guilty* #3

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Auntie Cipation said:
Someone trying to advance their career by prosecuting false or (pardon the pun) trumped-up charges on innocent people would be wrong, IMO.

Someone advancing their career by prosecuting people who have actually (or probably) committed crimes is okay by me. It's pretty much a truism that prosecution of criminals will equate to a successful career for the prosecutor, yeah.

In fact, if a person is reasonably suspected of criminal activity, I don't think the various personal motivations of the prosecutor matter one bit -- as long as the law is followed, meaning a fair trial -- criminals should be prosecuted, period.

Any prosecutor who would NOT put full effort into prosecuting a likely criminal just because they like or hold the same political views as the criminal, is being unethical and should be fired or censured. IMO.
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BBM. I totally agree with you on that point!

JMO
 
Auntie Cipation said:
Are you saying you think the charges in this case are false or inflated beyond what it appears actually took place?
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Yes. I would prefer Jack Smith be the lead prosecutor on matters involving a federal election.

I also question whether Willis' concocted her expensive two year "investigation" of the 2020 election with the help of Stacey Abrams, who was the leader of the Georgia electors in 2020. Abrams falsely claimed election fraud in 2018 and lost. She certainly lined her pockets well...and was forced to repay taxpayers.
JMO
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Stacey Abrams organization Fair Fight says that despite the loss, it remains committed to ensuring the rights of Georgia voters.
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“Although Georgia’s election system is not perfect, the challenged practices violate neither the Constitution nor the VRA (Voting Rights Act),” wrote Jones in the 288-page order. The lawsuit was initially filed in the wake of the 2018 election, in which now-Gov. Brian Kemp defeated Abrams by a margin of about 50,000 votes. The court ruled against Fair Fight on claims over Georgia’s “exact match” voter registration policy, absentee ballot cancellation practices and registration inaccuracies.

Fair Fight v. Raffensperger was the largest voting rights lawsuit on record in the Eleventh Circuit, covering much of the Southeast. Fair Fight alleged that the exact-match policy placed an undue burden on voters, and disproportionately affected minority groups.
 
@MyBelle I do recognize an area of some percieved "overlap" given that even federal elections are conducted in each state, by each state.

Personally I have no problem trusting that the breaches of federal law have been charged in federal court while the breaches of state law have been charged in state court.

Can't say I agree with the rest of your post. Some of it I'm simply not aware/informed enough to have an informed opinion.

MOO
 
MyBelle said:
They are pleading guilty to misdemeanors and are doing it because <modsnip: No link to support the reason you have stated as fact>.
Yes, I think the weaponization of a system of justice to advance her political career as Willis has obviously done is very, very wrong.

JMO
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Appreciate the response JMO
 
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Here's an update on hearings coming up.

Updated: 10/30/23:
GA - Violations of Georgia election laws re 2020 Election. Now 15 defendants (4 plead guilty). Trump has been charged with 13 criminal counts of:
• Violation of the Georgia RICO Act
• Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (4 counts)
• Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer
• Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
• Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings (2 counts)
• Conspiracy to commit filing false documents
• False statements and writings (2 counts)
• Filing false documents
4 defendants have plead guilty: Hall, Powell, Chesebro & Ellis.

For Floyd:
Friday, 11/3/23 @ 10:30am – Motions hearing re Motion to Quash.

For Trump, Shafer, Cheeley & Smith:
Friday, 12/1/23 @ 1:30pm – Motions hearing re Demurrers to the Indictment (Smith (#24); adopted by Trump); Motion to Dismiss under the Supremacy Clause (Chesebro #27; adopted by Trump); General Demurrer to Count 1 (Chesebro #30; adopted Trump); General Demurrer to Count 1-Continuity (Chesebro #63; adopted by Trump); Motions to Quash Counts 9, 13, 11, 15, 17, 19 (Chesebro #46-49; adopted by Trump); General Demurrer & Motion to Dismiss County 1 (Powell #35; adopted by Trump); Plea in Bar & Motion to Quash the Indictment (Shafer #46; adopted by Trump); Joint general & special Demurrer (Cheeley #49 & 50;adopted by Trump).

for Meadows:
Friday, 12/15/23 - Oral arguments hearing Meadows appeal against District Court Order denying removal petition

All:
Friday, 12/1/23 – Other types of pretrial motions (other than Motion in Limine) are due (16 defendants).
Case Management/Pretrial Conferences – TBD
Motions hearing dates - TBD
Monday, 12/11/23 – Motions Hearing- All (maybe)
Friday, 12/15/23 - Meadows 11th Circuit: Oral argument in Meadows appeal against District Court Order denying removal petition.
Monday - 2/20/24 – Final Pretrial Conference Hearing All
Monday, 3/4/24 – Proposed trial date (which will be changed as the DC 2020 Election case is on that date).
 
Docket updates:

for All (but only posted on Trump as etal):

Events & Hearings:
10/30/2023 APPLICATION
Comment: application for pro hac vice [filed by Fred Wertheimer]


for Floyd:
Events & Hearings:
10/30/2023 MOTION
Comment: Motion for Admission Pro Hac Vice of Mary Parrish McCracken


link: Fulton County Magistrate, State, and Superior Court Record Search
 
The public's right to know prevails!
JMO


Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee began his unsealing order by noting that Powell, Chesebro, Ellis, and Hall each invoked their first-time offender status under Georgia’s First Offender Act to immediately seal their dockets following guilty pleas to lesser charges that did not include a RICO offense.
 
MyBelle said:
The public's right to know prevails!
JMO


Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee began his unsealing order by noting that Powell, Chesebro, Ellis, and Hall each invoked their first-time offender status under Georgia’s First Offender Act to immediately seal their dockets following guilty pleas to lesser charges that did not include a RICO offense.
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Because there is a mandatory prison sentence, nobody wants a RICO offence. It was imperative to get that removed from the charges.
 
musicaljoke said:
Because there is a mandatory prison sentence, nobody wants a RICO offence. It was imperative to get that removed from the charges.
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If there was genuine evidence to prove RICO, a plea deal with only misdemeanors/probation wouldn't have been offered, JMO
 
MyBelle said:
If there was genuine evidence to prove RICO, a plea deal with only misdemeanors/probation wouldn't have been offered, JMO
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Happens all the time that the little fish are given options if they come to table and help to (truthfully) convict the bigger fish. RICO with its 5 yr mandatory is a great incentive. We should not forget that they were all charged by the GJ with RICO counts which means that many if not all would probably have stuck. As we move up the accountability tree, I think that the lone fighters if this case will have a hard time refuting all the gathered evidence and the cooperating people's position and accounts.
 
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kaen said:
Happens all the time that the little fish are given options if they come to table and help to (truthfully) convict the bigger fish. RICO with its 5 yr mandatory is a great incentive. We should not forget that they were all charged by the GJ with RICO counts which means that many if not all would probably have stuck. As we move up the accountability tree, I think that the lone fighters if this case will have a hard time refuting all the gathered evidence and the cooperating people's position and accounts.
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Right. Pleas to a lesser charge happen all the time....when there is value to the prosecutor to make the deal. Sometime an agreement is made because it saves court time and money. Sometimes a deal is made because it will help convict the bigger fish. This is nothing out of the ordinary.

jmo
 
Docket update:

for Trump
Events & Hearings:
10/31/2023 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
Comment: Notice of Leave of Absence December 4-8, 2023 [Steven Sadow-family vacation]

for Clark & All:
Events & Hearings:
10/31/2023 MOTION
Comment: Special Plea as to Lack of Personal Jurisdiction [says Clark, etal]

10/31/2023 AFFIDAVIT
Comment: Affidavit of Jeffrey B. Clark [stating he is a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia]

for Floyd:
Events & Hearings:
10/31/2023 NOTICE
Comment: Defendant Harrison Floyd's Plea in Bar due to Lack of Jurisdiction in Regard to Presentment Authority

11/01/2023 MOTION TO QUASH
Comment: Defendant Harrison Floyd's Consolidated Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoenas

for Shafer:
Events & Hearings:
11/01/2023 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
Comment: Notice of Leaves of Absence [for Greg Gillian]

11/01/2023 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
Comment: Notice of Leaves of Absence [for Anthony Lake]

link: Fulton County Magistrate, State, and Superior Court Record Search
 
Friday, November 3rd:
*Motions Hearing (Floyd only) (@ am ET) - GA – State of Georgia vs. Harrison William Prescott Floyd aka Willie Lewis Floyd III (36?) (leader of Black Voices for Trump) indicted & charged (8/14/23 wi*th 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements & writings (30) & 1 count of influencing witnesses (31). (total 3 counts). Surrendered 8/24/23 & will remain in jail without bond. Bond $100K (on 8/29/23). Plead not guilty (9/1/23) & waived arraignment. Represented by Todd A. Harding, Arnold M. Ragas & John E. Morrison.
Proposed trial date on 3/4/24. Judge Scott McAfee presiding. Though McAfee was assigned the case soon after the indictment was handed up on Monday evening, it could be transferred to a different judge later in the process.
Case (with unindicted co-conspirators) & court info from 2/10/21 thru 10/6//23 reference post #547 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...tion-of-rico-act-14-aug-2023-3.689482/page-28
10/6/23 Update: Roman & Smith: Notice of Case Management hearing. The defendants' cases are scheduled for a case management hearing on 10/10/23 @ 11am. Motions hearing for all on 12/11/23.
10/10/23 Update: Roman & Smith hearing: The first hearings for Smith & Roman were cancelled. An attorney for Smith said that both defendants will file speedy trial waivers. It will be just Powell & Chesebro for trial on 10/23/23. 10/10/23: Smith: Waiver of Statutory Right to demand speedy trial filed.
10/11/23 Update: Roman: Affirmative Waiver of Speedy Trial.
10/11/23 Update: Floyd: Defendant's demand for individual examination of prospective trial jurors. And demand for prospective trial jurors' names & identifying information. Defendant's request for the court to conduct voir dire of prospective jurors in panels of twelve.
10/12/23 Update: Smith: Notice of Leave of Absence for Bruce H. Morris from 12/4 & 12/21 thru 12/29/23 for a medical procedure.
10/13/23 Update: Floyd: Non-party Motion to Quash subpoena issued to the Clerk of the Superior Court of Fulton County. & Motion to Quash subpoena issued to the Fulton County Board of Registration & Elections.
10/17/23 Update: Trump: Motion to adopt co-defendant Cheeley's Joint General & Special Demurrer to, plea in bar to, & motion to quash the indictment. For All: State post hearing brief regarding defendants' RICO arguments. The defendants have collectively filed & adopted several motions contending that every count with which they are charged is fatally defective & must be dismissed. After reviewing the law, record & parties' arguments & finding that each challenged count is facially sound as alleged, the motions are DENIED. Order on Motions to Dismiss on Supremacy clause & first amendment-DENIED.
10/19/23 Update: All: Amicus Brief [Motion of Amici Curiae former Federal & State Criminal Justice officials to file a brief in support of State of Georgia's first consolidated Motions in Limine].
10/19/23 Update: Floyd: Additional counsel for defendant-John E. Morrison.
10/20/23 Update: Powell: Motion to Nolle Prosequi. Nolle Prossequi Order. Plead guilty.
10/20/23 Update: Chesebro: Plea of guilty statement form. Consolidated Motions in Limine.
10/23/23 Update: Jenna Ellis is taking a plea deal in Fulton County. She's pleading guilty to one count of aiding & abetting false statements & writings. Defendant's Waiver of Indictment filed. 10/24/23 Update: New charging document filed. Charge of aiding & abetting/False statements & writings. Appeared in Court & plead guilty. Sentenced to 5 years probation, $5K fine, apology letter to the citizens of Georgia, 100 hours of community service & testify truthfully against other co-defendants.
10/23/23 Update: Floyd: Order: Notice of hearing re Motion to Quash (#75) re Clerk of Superior Court of FUlton County & Motion to Quash (#76) re Fulton County Board of Registration & Elections & Motion to Quash (#77) re Security of State of Georgia. These matters are scheduled for argument on 11/3/23 @ 10:30am so Ordered by Judge Scott McAfee.
10/24/23 Update: Trump: Amended Motion to Adopt co-defendant Ray Smith's Demurrer to the Indictment (Previously filed as Motion to Adopt co-defendant Smith's Motion to Quash Indictment (General & Special Demurrers - Counts 1, 6, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17 & 19)).
10/25/23 Update: Fulton County prosecutors have discussed potential plea deals with at least six additional co-defendants charged alongside Trump for attempting to subvert the 2020 presidential election. The strategy by DA Fani Willis’ office is clear: get as many co-defendants as possible to flip on Trump, leaving Trump & perhaps a few close allies on the hot seat. Pro-Trump lawyer Robert Cheeley is among those who have been offered a plea deal in the Georgia case but, according to his lawyer, turned it down. Former Coffee County, Georgia, elections supervisor Misty Hampton & former Trump campaign official Mike Roman have also been in contact with the DA’s office about a possible deal.
10/28/23 Update: Meadows 11th Circuit: Oral argument in Meadows appeal against District Court Order denying removal petition on 12/15/23.
10/25/23 Update: Trump: Leave of absence for Jennifer Little: 11/7-10 CLE; 12/20/23-1/3/24 Winter break; 2/15-2/1924 Person leave & 3/28-4/5/24 Spring Break].
10/25/23 Update: Notice of hearing. Motions hearing on 12/1/23 @ 1:30pm for Trump, Smith Cheeley & Shafer re Demurrers to the Indictment (Smith (#24); adopted by Trump); Motion to Dismiss under the Supremacy Clause (Chesebro #27; adopted by Trump); General Demurrer to Count 1 (Chesebro #30; adopted Trump); General Demurrer to Count 1-Continuity (Chesebro #63; adopted by Trump); Motions to Quash Counts 9, 13, 11, 15, 17, 19 (Chesebro #46-49; adopted by Trump); General Demurrer & Motion to Dismiss County 1 (Powell #35; adopted by Trump); Plea in Bar & Motion to Quash the Indictment (Shafer #46; adopted by Trump); Joint general & special Demurrer (Cheeley #49 & 50; adopted by Trump).
10/25/23 Update: Guiliani: Entry/Notice of appearance for L. Allyn Stockton, Jr.
10/27/23 Update: Defendant Harrison Floyd's General Demurrer to Count 1 (Issue: Lack of Agreement to Join Conspiracy). 10/27/23 Update: Floyd: Motion for admission Pro Hac Vice of Mary Parrish McCracken.
10/30/23 Update: All: Application for Pro Hac Vice filed by Fred Wetheimer.
10/31/23 Update; Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee presiding over the 2020 election RICO case against Trump & co-defendants has reversed himself on the issue of sealing the criminal case dockets of attorneys Sidney Powell, Ken Chesebro & Jenna Ellis & bail bondsman Scott Hall. Judge Scott McAfee began his unsealing order by noting that Powell, Chesebro, Ellis & Hall each invoked their first-time offender status under Georgia’s First Offender Act to immediately seal their dockets following guilty pleas to lesser charges that did not include a RICO offense. Judge McAfee said that although prosecutors with the Fulton County District Attorney’s Office “did not oppose the requests” to seal, and although the judge orally granted the requests at the change of plea hearings, the sealing statute demanded more analysis from the jurist on the balance between “public’s interest” in accessing the records & the defendants’ “privacy” concerns. The judge did add, however, that Powell, Chesebro, Ellis & Hall can “renew their sealing request” upon the “successful completion & discharge of their sentences.” The order to unseal, signed & dated 10/27/23.
*Scott Graham Hall - (fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach) Plead guilty (9/29/23) & sentenced to 5 years of probation in exchange for testimony moving forward (including at trials of other co-defendants), a $5K fine & 200 hours of community service. Probation becomes non-reporting after 2.5 years, assuming he does not violate his probation during those initial 2.5 years. And will have to write letter of apology to Georgia citizens.
*Sidney Katherine Powell (68) - took a plea deal & plead guilty to 6 counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with performance of election duties & sentenced to 6 years probation, required to testify at future trials, pay at $6K fine & #2,700 in restitution to the State & write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia & admit her role in the January 2021 breach of election systems in Coffee County.
*Kenneth John Chesebro (61/now 62) – took a plea deal (10/20/23) & plead guilty to Count 15 Conspiracy to commit filing false documents. All other charges dismissed. Sentenced to 5 years probation, $5K restitution fine, 100 hours of community service & an apologize letter to the citizens of Georgia & testify against all other co-conspirators truthfully. Also no communication with media, witnesses & co-defendants, recorded proffer with prosecutors, provide documents & evidence. Resides in Puerto Rico & Judge will see if he can get probation transferred there. As part of his plea deal, Chesebro admitted that he conspired to put forward fake GOP electors in Georgia with Trump & former Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani & John Eastman. Giuliani & Eastman have both pleaded not guilty in the Georgia case & now face the prospect of Chesebro taking the witness stand against them."
*Jenna Lynn Ellis (37/now 38) – Took a plea deal to charge of aiding & abetting false statements & writings. Ellis plead guilty on 10/24/23. Sentenced to 5 years probation, $5K fine, apology letter to the citizens of Georgia, 100 hours of community service & testify truthfully against other co-defendants.
 
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