GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #2

[Gardener1850]

Subie, you may want to record as IIRC this show does not do "on demand" nor archive shows on the net.

Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Best wishes this will aid in the family's efforts. :heartbeat:

There will be transcripts of the entire show posted within 24 hours and small clips on Ashley Banfiled's facebook page but you are correct that not everything makes the video clips posted online

 

[drjmcope06]

I don't have a dvr :/ we were told 8:15-835. So maybe it got bumped back

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We will get it Subie! All hands on deck! We got you AND Jenna!


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[FlossyMay]

They just said her story is coming up after these commercials. Showed her picture and her parents waiting.

 

[terpstra1]

I don't have a dvr :/ we were told 8:15-835. So maybe it got bumped back

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Her story is up next. Praying this gets you and your family some answers.

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[noseynellie]

So about the ex boyfriend ... the HLN segment mentioned that she broke up with him the night she disappeared and that her friend she was texting in SC was on her way to come see her the next day (I got the impression to console her because she was upset about it).

I think that she broke up with him that Friday night is new info here. Did he break up with her in person?


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[Bently]

Tina Douglas a news reporter from 106.7 is speaking about the case first.

TD - " Jenna at some point according to what police say had a boyfriend and maybe they had broken up that night.

The friend says she may have been very upset about the breakup and and that she had texted her friend to tell her what had happened and the friend, who lives in South Carolina, was in route to Atlanta .. I assume to comfort her or to be with her after this experience."

AB - " obviously whenever I hear that a boyfriend break up I immediately think we'll that's got to be the focus of the investigation, but the police are saying strange things. They are saying that boyfriend told them, I'll quote the police report, advised this officer the reason he was no longer wanting to associate with her was because he had recently found out she was selling her body for money. Now that also sounds like someone who is trying to maybe come up with an excuse as to why he wouldn't want to be around her anymore, but then the police say that her brother also said something that corroborated that. They said that Jennas brother also advised that Jenna had been in some trouble over the past year hanging with the wrong people and making poor choices. He also advised that he was aware of the prostitution that said Jenna was taken career counseling classes to better her life. Do we feel as though though Tina that the police are looking at this differently then they would a typical missing persons case with no kind of connection like that? "

TD - " possibly because of those you know extenuating factors but she's also a grown woman 25 years old was living on her own. Sometimes police are reluctant to consider this a missing person because they are grown and they may have just decided to go stay with a friend, go out of town. But from what her family says she is in constant contact with them and that is why they are very alarmed about this and it's been a month now. Usually a person doesn't normally go missing this long without contacting the family unless there was some type of tension in the family and we have not heard that at all. But you have to be concerned now because the time that has passed and the fact that her car has been found and she is nowhere to be found.

AB- I want to bring in her parents.. have either of the two of you been updated on anything in this case that looks optimistic that car being found did it yield any clues as to your daughter being found.

Dad- unfortunately we don't know at this point we're waiting to hear from the police as to what they are found in the car.

AB - do you suspect anything as to what these police reports are saying, what this boyfriend who broke up with her that night is saying ..that she had been, you know,doing things that he didn't feel was appropriate for the relationship and what her brother said that she had been making bad choices. Is this factoring into the investigation ?

Dad I don't think it factoring in.. the police chief assures us they're working diligently on the case. as far as the statements made by boyfriend we had never talked to him and we have no way of knowing about any of the facts he is talking about."

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Paraphrasing now...
mom
She is high-functioning she graduated from Gwinnett Tech she wanted a job as an administrative assistant. She's quite normal but she's very vulnerable as to her autism and she does not read social cues and she is a target for predators. we have gotten a number of people contacting us and they are concerned about us and jenna ( showing a visual that the car was found at I-75 and Howell Mill Road)

:gaah: they ended without saying or posting on screen a number to call if information!!!!

 

[Bently]

Timeline/casestory Jenna van Gelderen missing including info from post 1 to post 1250

Updates are about

• Family did not meet up with LE
• Uber-friend did say she was with Jenna before 10 pm on Friday

Jenna, 25 years old, 4”11’, 140 lbs, long dark hair, pierced ears. Address; 2255 Lenox Road. Atlanta PD Zone 2 DeKalb county. ‘Lenox Woods apartments’, living right between the areas Buckhead and Midtown. She didn’t have contact lenses. She only wore glasses and didn't need them all the time.

Missing from Parents house; address; (from facebook page and media) 1289, Oakdale road, Atlanta. Druid Hills home, GA. DeKalb county, GA. Near Emory University In fact it is not sure if she wentmissing from her parents’ house. added by me.

https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/
About her living space/apartment ‘She would never tell us this address, we only found out through the P.I and the police. According to them she is on the lease. Prior we didn't know this and though she was just staying on a friend's couch according to what she had told us. Post by brother 313. She had a male roommate At what moment in time she signed the lease contract for this apartment?Is the roommate just staying/living there or was he also on the lease?

Distance between her apartment and parents address: 3 miles

She had been seeing a career coach / counselor every week as well to help get her on track to finding a new job and working with her mental illness /minor autism to help with work skills. Post by brother nr. 167

Jenna is in the autism spectrum; has a form of high-functioning autism. Can easily be manipulated and doesn't realize what she is doing is bad. However she always always said that she would never do drugs and would say it in a pretty big tone. Post by brother nr. 168.

Parentsaddress on the drivers license. Postbrother nr 323/Jenna’s passport kept by parents at the bank

Jenna used two phones; T-mobile (in a family plan, parents account, she used this phone tocall family and friends) and another (unknown by family but later found out) a Metro pcs number. (her own plan, family is not sure where she used it for) registeredunder another name Ruth Jenna.

Metro pcs account: According to post nr. 140 by brother she was not the primary accountholder. This info is changed now. When brother first found out about the Metro phone he called Metro. They said that she was not listed and it may be under a different accountholder post brother 993. She did not use her first name as the account name. Family fount her Metro account info at the house (parents house? ) post brother 990. She used the name Ruth Jenna on this account. Confusion. middlename Ruth as her first and Jenna as her last. I didn't realize serviceproviders allowed you to do this post 996 brother. According to post 1027 by another member a Metro phone is prepaid, no contract and no credit check needed. Don’t ask for ID. “If I'd paid cash I could have given any name”.

Jenna’s car was spotted in South Carolina in July 2017. Her ties with that: She frequently went up to South Carolina (believed by brother to be in Greenville area, postnr. 355) to babysit for a friend. Have spoken to said friend several times and she is one of her best friends, post brother nr 328

Rumors about Jenna being a sex worker have never been confirmed. Post brother nr. 330According to parents this was said by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend. Post nr. 384.

Rumors about Jenna going missing before are not true according to the parents. “Never, absolutely never - neverdisappeared,” Jenna’s father said. “If she ever went to South Carolina, that’s the furthest she's ever gone. We knew where she was going, who she was going tobe with and she was always in contact with us.” Post nr. 384.

About her personal life; stories we have been given by her friends keep changing, but she hid a lot from us and even her friends. Post brother 982.

How long has she been gone from home? (before she went missing) If I recall it wasaround april or may she moved out of parents house, living on ppls couches. Post brother 1004

August 16, 2016 last public post of Jenna on her own Facebookaccount, post is about looking for a job
January – March 2017
We trackedthis phone number I found on metro to a number that showed up a lot Jan - March and then died off around when she said it was finished . Was also around the time of the supposed theft. Post by brother 167.
February 2017.

• She had a job back in Feb at the pet store but we found out through a friend she had been fired for theft at the store. Which is really not like her.
• We found out large sums of money had been taken in total from various times from her register. She was arrested, and through the court case, we were able to have the sentence reduced to a misdemeanor. She would not tell us where the money went and that she was "framed" by a manager. I am starting to think that maybe she did do this and paid one of these guys (to witch guys is referred to ?) with the money. Posted by brother post 162.
• This kind of behavior was labeled as uncharacteristic for Jenna.
• The case was nixed/settled, by negotiation and labeled as ‘disorderly conduct’ only.
• A friend was able to confirm that she back in Feb was on and off with another guy who was violent, but again she would not tell us who and that it was done and never happening again. Post by brother nr. 167 Does one of her friends know this person?
• It appears in February she switched to a new email for her Apple ID which we do not have. Post by brother nr. 367

August 14, 2017 Jenna became a member of Atlanta Housing group. On August 14, 2017, Jenna reacted on post of somebody asking for a roommate,planning to move in September 2017. Send me a message <name> ASAP. On questions about the neighborhood the girl’s post asking for a roommate; “Jenna was living right between those two areas (Buckhead and Midtown)” post nr. 462
August 15 Tuesday, 16 Wednesday

• Parents left for Canada on Tuesday 15[SUP]th[/SUP] post brother 966. Jenna agreed on house sitting She arrived at the house on what day? With her car? Did she meet her parents before they left? Key to the house turned over/she had her own set? Did they met,what was her state of mind? and watch over the old dear cat. The cat needs medicine/is ill. Laundry list <of things wrong with the cat>, but mostly old age (21) and some infections. Post by brother 979.
• Parents were planning to stay in Canada until August 26 (post 34, by brother)
• Jenna told vet and brother she would be there all weekend. Post number 34 by brother. Because she didn’t dare to give the medicine to the cat she was very attached to, so vet could help her giving the medicine (post by brother 34) Arrangement were brother helping a.m., vet p.m. ? “We know she would have worked with me and the vet assistant (who didn't have a key to the house) if she had planned to leave” post 34 by brother….did she planned to leave….I’m not getting this entirely.

August 17, Thursday

• She had some friends over for a small get together I believe Thursday night and didn't clean up the rooms upstairs. This info came out later from a friend that was over there. Right now we know of Jenna and 2 others that were at the house for sure that night. Trying to find out who else may have been there. Post by brother 827

August 18, Friday

• I was at the house Friday a.m to give the cat her meds, I remember seeing the car <Jenna’s car> there. Sorry guys I forgot I had muted this for a bit when I was working on my job hunting. Post by brother 812. I saw her Friday A.M that was that last time I saw her. Post by brother 831. In what state she was in? She seemed fine, no indication anything was out of the ordinary, post brother 981. At what time? Were the friends already gone? Was mom’s car at the house? Didn't notice. My mom's car stays inthe external garage in the back, where as Jenna's was in a visible parking spot in the back. Post brother 849
• Yes, meds were given that <Friday> afternoon. The vet assistant came by around 2 pm I believe. He did not have a key to the house either so Jenna had to be there to let him in. Post by brother 816 Has anyone talked to the vet about what she and the house seemed like?
• I talked to her that evening to confirm everything was ok for the rest of theweekend. Post by brother 831. Must have been by phone, because in the morning the brother saw Jenna for the last time. At what time was this call made ? Yes I believe I spoke to her around 4-5 pm (vague memory on that) Brother does not know if she was at home <meaning at the parents’ home> Can’t you look at your own phone when you made the call? My phone log on on my phone only goes back tothe 25th of Aug , posted by brother nr 840.
• She was also in contact with one other guy that night on and of between 8 and 10pm. From interviews with him. He advisedher not to come to his part of town (college Park) with my mom's car, and thathe would meet her closer to her apartment. According to him she never showed.
• Per Google maps timeline; She stopped in the Area of English Avenue (North and Northside Drive) for about 5-6 minutes around 10 pm. Regarding English Ave stop also mentioned: No specifics only Google maps Timeline. According to brother the Google maps timeline shows she drove to Wendy’s. post brother 966.
• We know Friday night she had been in contact with this person of interest via texting / calling / and seeing him. According to him she came to his apartment Approx. 10 pm Where does this person live? Is itin the neighborhood/Area of English Ave? The place Jenna stopped at 10 pm does not add up with thestatement of the POI’s that she was at his address at 10 a.m., because it is in a differentarea.
• She had also been in contact with her friend in S.C around 11:45 pm and then her last text with her was around 1:30 - 2 am. Saying laying down
• Friend talked to her briefly before she left (to where?) By media ….he told the police. Face to face, by phone. What time? Friday night she had left a friends place to come home (what is home mean, her parents’ house or her own apartment) around 11 pm, in mother'scar. Why in mother’s car? (post 34 by brother) He claims she wanted a relationship but he did not knowing the theft issue. Posted by brother post 167 sooo older information
• We believe so as a verified friend has spoken to her that night late around 1030 and he recalls her driving my mom's car. Post 612 by brother
• Another friend said she had a conversation with Van Gelderen. From media (face to face, on the phone?) on Saturday <after Friday12 pm> So at present it seems the SC friend was the last to speak to J at 11.45 p.m. approx. Have LE and you spoken to this friend? What did they discuss and did the friend know where Jenna was when they spoke? The LE has spoken to the S.C. friend, as well as the p.i and my parents. She did not know where Jenna was. Post by brother 847.
• According to everyone she had returned to my parents place that night. Post by brother nr 310.
• 2 am Jenna had sent a text to a friend (T-mobileaccount, to baby-sit friend in South Carolina) that she was going to bed. She <the S.C. friend> has not seen her either up that way. Posts from brother 34, 185 Why they had contact that late? Brother’s response; They were always in contact through textseven late at night , but she was never informed by Jenna of her whereabouts.Post 188. It is not a fact that Jenna text this message herself, could have done by somebody else havingher phone. Add. By me.
• Jenna talked to her mother twice a day. Also on august 18th? Or were parents traveling on that day? How was contact with mother made, by phone,Facebook, did she came to parents house twice a day, other way?
• I was able to access the voice mail earlier on it and found a pocket dial at 11.50 pm Friday. I have given the number to our p.i. I have been able to locate that number tied to an Instagram account with references to pimping and clubs on Cambelton Rd. Posted by brother post 135. The number for the pocket dial was tied to an Instagram account as well that leads me to believe something more is up. Also metro pcs number as well. Any follow through? Don't know anymore on that. Who ever it was that called at 11:30 left a 2 min long voice mail and their phone was in their pocket. The Insta account that I found tied to that number and several ads that set off an alarm that said person may be a pimp. However have heard nothing more from police on this. post bro 1110. Metro PCS line, pocket dial so it was just random sounds. Post brother 1115.
• The Instagram mentioned above is not Jenna's Instagram. Post by brother 191
• Through access d.d. 8/31 on her e-mail and Facebook on family finds out on what locations she was and which locations she searches for on google maps timeline:

• Visited townhome that she frequently went to
• Searched for another address on Google, promptly after
• After that no activity, all activity end on 11.30 p.m. meaning googlemaps timeline? This has to be switched off then. Add. By me. Posts brother nr. 406 and 408
• New info found at 9/1 by brother. Driving from there <town home> down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave) which is near Opera night club. Post 464. According to info she did go the town home then/had the intention to meet him? What is it with the town homeguy story? She went there for an appointment with him, but she didn’t come according to his statement….. Curious. I was under the impression the guy who lived in the townhouse that was found through google maps timeline was the one who said they had plans but she didn't show up. Is that not correct? Reply by brother: At this point honestly I don't know. The police were supposed to check this town home but won't tell me what they have found. The odd thing is the town home like I said is behind her apt.
• If she didn’t go to the Opera night club, where was she going, what could be another destination in that area? We do not know anymore on this
• 4 stops at gas stations Is there any info on what she persuaded …info from debet card, who much money was taken? Are there CCTV footages? In what car? Posted by a family-friend on Facebook The last places Jenna used her debitcard on Friday, Aug 18:
  - Texaco @ N Decatur Rd
  - DeKalb Industrial Chevron @ Cheshire Bridge
  - LaVista Wendy's at 1940 Piedmont Road she was at the gas station at Lavista and Cheshire Bridgearound 11PM, post 775, info from Facebooksite. Also mentioned earlier in the thread Cheshire and Lavista road…are these names all refer to the sameapprox. location? Really confirmed is that Wendy's based on the straw wrapper in my mom's car / passenger seat pushed back. Post by brother833.
  - Chevron @ N Decatur Rd & Clairemont
• Seen with an unidentified male passenger in her mother’s car. Per FB Help find Jenna van Gelderen By whom, where and what time?

• Google Maps Timeline can be inaccurate. Post nr. 471. Seems like the area is very unlikely to loose signals, but….also you have to put on ‘Location History’ in Google Maps Timeline before it registered your whereabouts through a device and you can add/change it yourself. Post nr. 782.
• We know a little after this she has gone to that Wendy's. Then back to either her apartment or this town home I mentioned earlier. It is right behind her apartment. Could be Google error.
• Presumably we assume she made it back to parents house somewhere between 1130 and 130 am. Again I don't know on this as her timeline activity dies around then with her going down to midtown. So we do not know for sure what happened around then
• The family sent the p.i to that address <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. How did the family know about this guy in the first place? He said they had plans to meet for food but she never made it down there. At what time did they had an appointment? Did he call her when she didn’t show up, checked with her in another way? Who is this person? What kind of relationship they had? Where is this townhome and isthere in any way to proof that she (didn’t) went there (by phone signal,witness?) 9/1 brother states that they had found information that she drovefrom townhome down to midtown…Sooo did she or did she not went to the townhomeand see the guy. Could this mentioned town house be her own apartment?????Confusing
• Accordingto brother the FBI talked to this townhome guy and his story was checked out. I really wonder what this story is…. Open question stays why is FBI involved, does family knows?
• The phone number of the townhome guy seems not the same as the pocket callnumber. Post by brother nr. 416
• She was driving in her mums car that evening a dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010). We also know that she was in my mom’scars is this a typo or does mum own more than one car? most of that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to have the cars switched post by brother nr. 464 What was the reason she used mums car? We are still trying to piece together why Jenna was driving my mom's car Friday, like if she loaned hers to a friend etc. We still do not know, however police never finger printed it post by brother nr 605

August 19, Saturday

• Brother called at around 9:30 to Jenna. With cellular phone, number house parent? goes to parents house, arrives there at 10.30 am (Post brother nr. 162 ), to give the cat meds. (from flyer and posts brother 34) I tried calling her that morning and her phone rang then went to voice mail. Had assumed she was sleeping in. Came by the house and she was not there and then assumed she may have just run out quickly for an errand.The vet/assistent came to the house ? pm. He <the vet> tried to but the door was locked and had tried to call Jenna to see where she was. She had told both of us she was going to be around all weekend. Post by brother 823. I was supposed to come by only that Saturday a.m. but not the rest of the weekend due to other plans. Post brother 1108. We didn't know that morning she was missing for sure. My parents and I both got calls from the vet assistant that he wasn't able to get in and her phone was now dead. At 9:30 a.m. when brother called the phone rang and then went to voicemail. The vet tried to call Jenna at ? p.m. and the phone was dead. So no voicemail anymore? At what time did the vet arrived at the parent’s house or alarmed brother and parents? What does the vet say about that?
  Later brother noticing both phones are gone from the parents’ house and off. Going straight to voicemail or completely dead? So her phone went dead after 9:30 am on Saturday? Brother says he didn't realize something was wrong until he was on a wedding on Saturday night going into Sunday.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb-county/missing-dekalb-county-woman-disappeared-while-housesitting/599493475 interview with family, video

• Jenna not at the house
• Door locked (deadbolt was locked, post 619 bybrother)
• No sign of forced entry
• TV-on
• Lights on
• Charger at the house
• Pair of shoes at the house
• Jenna’s car gone (2010, Blue Mazda 6 sedan, licenseplate PWH5029, Noticeable scratches on driver side, dent on top of the trunk, and missing cross bar on the front grille) Is the car listed as stolen by now?
• Jenna’s phone and purse not at the house
• Mothers car at home (dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010))
• House in some disarray what kind? Jenna had people over the other day for a get together and upstairs was not cleaned up.
• No evidence of struggle
• Tapestry(more of an Egyptian khayamiya,as a WS member suggested) missing (It was an Egyptian tapestry / buffet cover from around WWII) Never had been appraised so don't know the worth, but it’s a very odd thing to take. (brother’s post 55) https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21077291_1624615670895705_120030193465841363_n.jpg?oh=d704bfe7f8ce8a278f7785cd780233ee&oe=5A4DEC1F Blurry picture of tapestry.
• It is from my Grandfather / WWII era. It’s not something we ever really talked about. But I do know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it. Retrieving it isn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sell it to a pawn shop / craigslist in the past few days. post by brother 156
• The tapestry that is missing is part of a set 2x end table covers (what is <the picture> posted) and a buffet cover that was framed. The buffet cover is what is missing and very similar to this <the picture posted> Post by brother nr. 133. From Facebook by Leon vanGelderen: https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1624607500896522&id=100000418644521&set=a.973355179355094.1073741826.100000418644521&source=57&ref=content_filter
  approx. 2 feet by five feet (approx. 61 cm x 152 cm)
• Tapestry was in a heavy frame, carefully removed by breaking a small piece of the glass and frame hung back on the wall. The frame definitely takes 2 people to put backup. Glass on the frame appears to have been cleaned as well, very odd. Taken from frame, sharper picture available is a same kind of cloth but not the item itself (brother’s post 55)
• should mention on that picture frame, the missing piece of glass was still on the frame when I found it. It fell out when we and the police took the frame down to inspect and due to safety kept it off post of brother nr 264
• What about the missing suitcase? When did the parents notice that a suitcase was missing? That's so weird because my parents were the ones that noticed the suit case gone 2 days later from when I gave the statement. I've been a little aggravated today that our statements are not right and thus transferring to the media, post by brother nr. 281 How big was the suitcase? Big enough to transfer a person in? What do you think she took in the suitcase? Do you know the dimensions please? (Height width and length, colour, make, fabric etc) Did she bring the missing suitcase with her or was it in the house? What about a suitcase or bag she brought over for her housesitting for the two week period. Don't have an answer to any of this as stated. My parents noticed it <the suitcase> was gone. Post brother 1116. Honestly, don't know and my parents were going to check on this. Post brother 1099.
• About Jenna’s clothes missing or let at parents’ house; some clothes were at my parents still and some were given back to us from her apartment. No idea what all she took if anything in that suitcase. Post brother 1097
• No activity on social media accounts, bank accounts, phone….. (since the day she disappeared)……after ? could family, LE established a time?
• Both phones are missing and off. So the T-mobile and the Metro pcs.
• Toiletries and what not were still in the bathroom (post 81 by brother )
• Were Jenna’s glasses found in parents’ house?
• Through access on her mails and Facebook on 8/31 family finds out that on 8/19 there was no activity.

August 20, Sunday 2017.

• It wasn't until that night <Saturday/Sunday> when I was at a wedding that we realized something was wrong.
• Sunday they helped me (from Canada) to being the process of the missing persons report.
• It was on Sunday also that I had just noticed the tapestry missing.
• Reported missing by brother

August 21,22, 23, 24 family is finding more out about the apartment /address Jenna lived/stayed through P.I. and LE. Family is trying to find out about roommate….He doesn’t want to work with family. Says no to parents, post by brother nr 195

• Male roommate says no access to the apartment. Told the family to need a warrant. Who is this person and why havedifficulties? How did Jenna getacquainted with this person and decide to live with him? We really know nothing on thisapartment or how she met that guy that lives there. We had asked her severaltimes where she was staying and all she ever mentioned is that a"friend" was letting her crash on the couch. Post brother 1002
• Wejust don't know on this. We tried to have her <Jenna> tell us but shewould not. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he may be tied tosomething in this. Post brother, nr. 152
• Distancebetween her apartment and the pet store she worked at in February 2017 is a 6minutes’ walk.

August 25, Friday

• Brothertalks to police about access to Jenna’s apartment. Her roommate won't allow usto, need the local police to go over there, but it’s been a week now and theystill have not spoken to the roommate(according to them Friday) post brother on Sunday nr. 149

August 26, Saturday.
Family getnews that she is found that night, but it turned up to be not correct. Post number 34, by brother of Jenna. Parents planned to come home ‘this Saturday”but returned earlier.
August 27,Sunday

• Wehave a few neighbors that have videos from their systems pointed at the street,unfortunately nothing directly on our street. Post by brother nr. 104

August 28, Monday.

• Thismorning with this new info it seems so now they are taking it more seriously <checkingapartment Jenna, strange behavior roommate> post brother nr. 182.

August 29,Tuesday

• CandlelightVigil for Jenna Van Gelderen 7:30 PM ·Congregation Shearith Israel - Atlanta · Atlanta, GA
• Apartmenthas not been searched as far as I know unless done today. Post by brother nr.292
• Apartmentis not in the same LE jurisdiction as the parents’ home (DeKalb and FultonCounty)

August 30,Wednesday

• Believeour LE has made contact with roommate and <we> should be hearing soon if he <policeman> is going tovisit the apt finally! Post by brother nr. 351.
• Ifound her laptop the other day, she stopped using it months ago as It won'tturn on. Turned it over to the police to see if they can find anything on thedrive that may help. Post by brother nr. 359 Did this bring leads to go on?
• SoI discovered today that Jenna for sure had iMessage enabled at least I believeso. I tried from my Mac to send her a text via iMessage to her phone number andit was delivered but not read. I Havegotten access to 2 icloud accounts now with old emails that she had and usingthe security questions. Post brother nr. 362. Did this bring leads to go on?
• Brotheris trying to find out more about her e-mail accounts/Apple ID site. I've tried the 2 known emails that we have forher and no luck. Post nr. 367.
• OkI got in finally. I had been going to iCloud.com. I managed to figure out theright email from the Apple ID site and it shows her phone and phone no as alisted device. I have an old iPad thatI'm restoring with her account info. Itlooks like though and this is odd, it says no back ups of apps and dataavailable. All contacts and messages are wiped and photos only show January ofthis year and prior. Couldthis have something to do what happened in February at the Petstore or berelated to the supposed violent boyfriend back in February? It's like she turned off all back-up settingsor someone wiped a lot of her phone. Post 369. Maybe somebody could change this stuff to a morecomprehending text, because this is out of my league.
• Aboutthe supposed violent boyfriend back in February; We have just heard through thegrapevine of this but she would never tell us of this guy, there hasn't beenany contact from him or her in a while that we could find on the phone logsthough. Post of brother nr. 377.
• Policeis going to interview friend(s) about the possible violent boyfriend she waswith in February. (myinterpretation bases on content of the post) Yup, p.i and police areinterviewing today. Post by brother nr. 375
• Policevisited Jenna’s apartment. We got herstuff back yesterday <d.d.8/30> . Doesn't sound like they got anything of interest out of goingover there. Posted on 8/31 by brother, nr. 393 Needless to say that they didn’t find Jenna at theapartment. Were there only clothes, was there anything else retrieved from theapartment? Did she really had a room/bed there? Wat was the state of this room?Any signs that she had been there/lived there? Did the so called roommate really lived there? What happened to therent?
• Aboutbringing the roommate for questioning and found items: Not aware of it, soundslike she just had some clothes there and that’s it. But again who knows at thispoint. I could speculate that the roommate got rid of stuff . Working to find out more this a.m . Stillsounds so fishy to me. Post by brother nr. 397

August 31,Thursday

• Heyguys sorry for the silence this morning. We have gotten access to her emailsand Facebook through some nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy featurenow called time line in Google maps. If anyone has used before it's creepy butvery handy. Post by brother nr. 399
• Thefamily has finally access to her mails and Facebook. Brother writes about thisin posts 401 and 403. We have gotten access to her emails and Facebook throughsome nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy feature now called time linein Google maps. It shows right now her entire history of locations and whereaboutsfor Friday the 18, including locations she search on maps. Sat 19 no activity

September1, Friday

• Soupdates.. long day yesterday <d.d.9/1> The tricky part right now is figuring out the last few hoursbefore her activity ends. There is this apartment / townhome I mentioned. Stillfiguring out the deal with that and then I discovered that the timeline goes abit more and shows driving from there down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave)which is near Opera night club. We also know that she was in my mom’s car mostof that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to havethe cars switched <because her mother’s car was atthe parents’ house>

September 2, Saturday
September 3, Sunday
September4, Monday

• Thereis a $10,000 reward for info leading to her return per Help Find Jenna FB site.

September5,6 Tuesday, Wednesday
September7, Thursday

• Thereis a person of interest (officially?)Persons name known by family. 33years and about 6 feet, working in security, known to Jenna, probably Februaryfrom Pet shop. < I want tobe careful about the details>

Hey guys sorry for the absence this week. Beentrying to refocus on my own job search. We have a persons of interest. He is the lastperson to see her that Friday night and his stories keep changing on when andwhere he saw her and has previously been at the house and driven Jenna's caraccording to friends. <modsnip> <I can’t put name up here> We have an email tip line aswell FindJennaNow@gmail.com. Post by brother nr. 755
September11, Monday

• Thefamily got a response from the Police Chief and commissioner. Hopefully will bemeeting with him to go over how this case has been handled and where we can gofrom here. Post brother 1117. I wish I could give more updates, but I don'thave any :/
• The family still not met up with LE
• About how LE is handling thecase: Why is police holding up, do they know more? Why withhold information? I'm not sure what they think at this point. I mean they did ask me ifshe had a box full of money and could have just left to go live off the grid.Again this all goes back to the cat, she would have never left the carunattended like she did. Police have been very quiet which is why we aremeeting with the Chief. We are so verytorn and frustrated about how this whole case has been handled . We have giventhe info to the police , a lot of info, but we don't know what they are doingwith it, other than Friday just now seeing a judge to get a warrant to reademails / facebook / texts etc eventhough we gave them that stuff over a week ago. Post 1127 brother. We have manytimes now <asked straight out the police what they think happened> andcan’t get a straight answer. I know this department is spread thin in thiscounty which sucks also post bro 1124

September,13 Wednesday

• The family still not meet up with LE.

:bump:

This is from 9/13 post #2 on this thread, so some updates have not been done, but thought a good refresher for all.

 

[Paddleboarder]

Tina Douglas a news reporter from 106.7 is speaking about the case first.

TD - " Jenna at some point according to what police say had a boyfriend and maybe they had broken up that night.

The friend says she may have been very upset about the breakup and and that she had texted her friend to tell her what had happened and the friend, who lives in South Carolina, was in route to Atlanta .. I assume to comfort her or to be with her after this experience."

AB - " obviously whenever I hear that a boyfriend break up I immediately think we'll that's got to be the focus of the investigation, but the police are saying strange things. They are saying that boyfriend told them, I'll quote the police report, advised this officer the reason he was no longer wanting to associate with her was because he had recently found out she was selling her body for money. Now that also sounds like someone who is trying to maybe come up with an excuse as to why he wouldn't want to be around her anymore, but then the police say that her brother also said something that corroborated that. They said that Jennas brother also advised that Jenna had been in some trouble over the past year hanging with the wrong people and making poor choices. He also advised that he was aware of the prostitution that said Jenna was taken career counseling classes to better her life. Do we feel as though though Tina that the police are looking at this differently then they would a typical missing persons case with no kind of connection like that? "

TD - " possibly because of those you know extenuating factors but she's also a grown woman 25 years old was living on her own. Sometimes police are reluctant to consider this a missing person because they are grown and they may have just decided to go stay with a friend, go out of town. But from what her family says she is in constant contact with them and that is why they are very alarmed about this and it's been a month now. Usually a person doesn't normally go missing this long without contacting the family unless there was some type of tension in the family and we have not heard that at all. But you have to be concerned now because the time that has passed and the fact that her car has been found and she is nowhere to be found.

AB- I want to bring in her parents.. have either of the two of you been updated on anything in this case that looks optimistic that car being found did it yield any clues as to your daughter being found.

Dad- unfortunately we don't know at this point we're waiting to hear from the police as to what they are found in the car.

AB - do you suspect anything as to what these police reports are saying, what this boyfriend who broke up with her that night is saying ..that she had been, you know,doing things that he didn't feel was appropriate for the relationship and what her brother said that she had been making bad choices. Is this factoring into the investigation ?

Dad I don't think it factoring in.. the police chief assures us they're working diligently on the case. as far as the statements made by boyfriend we had never talked to him and we have no way of knowing about any of the facts he is talking about."

.....

Paraphrasing now...
mom
She is high-functioning she graduated from Gwinnett Tech she wanted a job as an administrative assistant. She's quite normal but she's very vulnerable as to her autism and she does not read social cues and she is a target for predators. we have gotten a number of people contacting us and they are concerned about us and jenna ( showing a visual that the car was found at I-75 and Howell Mill Road)

:gaah: they ended without saying or posting on screen a number to call if information!!!!

Well done Bently!


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[drjmcope06]

Tina Douglas a news reporter from 106.7 is speaking about the case first.

TD - " Jenna at some point according to what police say had a boyfriend and maybe they had broken up that night.

The friend says she may have been very upset about the breakup and and that she had texted her friend to tell her what had happened and the friend, who lives in South Carolina, was in route to Atlanta .. I assume to comfort her or to be with her after this experience."

AB - " obviously whenever I hear that a boyfriend break up I immediately think we'll that's got to be the focus of the investigation, but the police are saying strange things. They are saying that boyfriend told them, I'll quote the police report, advised this officer the reason he was no longer wanting to associate with her was because he had recently found out she was selling her body for money. Now that also sounds like someone who is trying to maybe come up with an excuse as to why he wouldn't want to be around her anymore, but then the police say that her brother also said something that corroborated that. They said that Jennas brother also advised that Jenna had been in some trouble over the past year hanging with the wrong people and making poor choices. He also advised that he was aware of the prostitution that said Jenna was taken career counseling classes to better her life. Do we feel as though though Tina that the police are looking at this differently then they would a typical missing persons case with no kind of connection like that? "

TD - " possibly because of those you know extenuating factors but she's also a grown woman 25 years old was living on her own. Sometimes police are reluctant to consider this a missing person because they are grown and they may have just decided to go stay with a friend, go out of town. But from what her family says she is in constant contact with them and that is why they are very alarmed about this and it's been a month now. Usually a person doesn't normally go missing this long without contacting the family unless there was some type of tension in the family and we have not heard that at all. But you have to be concerned now because the time that has passed and the fact that her car has been found and she is nowhere to be found.

AB- I want to bring in her parents.. have either of the two of you been updated on anything in this case that looks optimistic that car being found did it yield any clues as to your daughter being found.

Dad- unfortunately we don't know at this point we're waiting to hear from the police as to what they are found in the car.

AB - do you suspect anything as to what these police reports are saying, what this boyfriend who broke up with her that night is saying ..that she had been, you know,doing things that he didn't feel was appropriate for the relationship and what her brother said that she had been making bad choices. Is this factoring into the investigation ?

Dad I don't think it factoring in.. the police chief assures us they're working diligently on the case. as far as the statements made by boyfriend we had never talked to him and we have no way of knowing about any of the facts he is talking about."

.....

Paraphrasing now...
mom
She is high-functioning she graduated from Gwinnett Tech she wanted a job as an administrative assistant. She's quite normal but she's very vulnerable as to her autism and she does not read social cues and she is a target for predators. we have gotten a number of people contacting us and they are concerned about us and jenna ( showing a visual that the car was found at I-75 and Howell Mill Road)

:gaah: they ended without saying or posting on screen a number to call if information!!!!

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!


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[Gardener1850]

Interview with Jenna's parents: https://www.facebook.com/AshleighBanfield/videos/vb.134954519756/10155668869764757/?type=3&theater

 

[flute4peace]

I'm starting the DVR'd show now & all 3 of the headliners are WS cases. That's kinda cool. I'd like to think that means WS may have had a hand in helping these families get their stories out into the public eye.

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[cnmccarthy]

Subie, I'm praying for Jenna! Bless all of you!

I have been sitting back and reading the posts most of the afternoon. I have a few observations and if I step on someone's toes, oh well. Sorry moderators, I'm new.

1. I've seen this afternoon Subie be bombarded with awesome questions, repeat questions, and ridiculous questions. Subie, sorry that I am speaking for you, is probably under a freaking load of angst. Lobbing repeat questions or rapid fire lengthy dissertations has got to be overwhelming. I saw someone post 4-5 times the same questions when they weren't answered. It was insane.

2. Whether she is from Atlanta, Philadelphia, Bismarck, or Sacramento, she is missing. Upperclass, middle class, lowerclass, she's missing. No matter where you are from or how much money you have, you are still capable of doing crazy things. Remember feeling invincible? I do.

3. Autism is a relatively new diagnosis as per Subie. She has developed coping skills to compensate for that over her lifetime. That doesn't mean she's not autistic, she has a different skill set to get by.

4. Someone threw around other diagnoses earlier. Yes, ADHD and impulsivity can be a co-occurring disorders with autism, but not always. I don't believe I saw those diagnoses being diagnosed. So, I would say at 25, she may just be impulsive or lacks attention to detail, or whatever. But, she is still missing.

5. She's missing. Being constructive and not bickering about this or that, reading the thread and taking notes to remember the facts to avoid repetition, and respect for the courage Subie has to read all of this stuff and keep coming back is what will make this thread more helpful.

JMO, I saw a lot of great theories that may have been missed by repetition, irrelevant, ridiculous questions.

Slam me if you want, but she's missing, let's be productive and help find her, which I believe, all of us want to do.



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Fantastic post.

 

[Spiritecho]

So, she and her bf broke up, is this the same man who she shared a lease on an apartment with? Is this another guy who was going to meet her at 10pm in her own car?
I'm not trying to be an donkey's tail. I simply wish we could get clarity.
Is he the one who was the passenger in her mom's car where the seat was all the way back?
Is he the one who last drove Jenna's car where the seat was all the way back?

We have NOT previously heard this info to the best of my recollection.....

Please excuse me if the questions are reptitive, irrelevant or ridiculous, because IMOO!! This is HUGE as to what happened to her!!!!!!

 

[momrids6]

If she had people over, something may have hit that tapestry and spilled on it. She may have removed it to have it cleaned.

 

[Bently]

Oxygen Channel, Crime Time, Has picked up the story

http://www.oxygen.com/blogs/car-of-...n-missing-for-a-month-appears-on-side-of-road

 

[Bently]

Well done Bently!


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Thanks..... But

Pfffft! I did all that, and then after I finished, I saw that someone had posted that the transcript would be up tomorrow

:floorlaugh:

:banghead:

 

[Gardener1850]

Thanks..... But

Pfffft! I did all that, and then after I finished, I saw that someone had posted that the transcript would be up tomorrow

:floorlaugh:

:banghead:

Hey, I appreciate the live recap so we don't have to wait for the transcript! I have been doing live summaries of HLN for other cases but I couldn't watch the show tonight. I know how much work that was! :loveyou:
:yourock:

 

[Gardener1850]

I've been thinking about this case and how the police said they found her early on, then that turned out to not be true/a case of mistaken identity. Has anyone else considered that maybe police did that on purpose because they were watching someone and wanted to find out that person's reaction to the news she had been found? After seeing the clip of the AB show tonight posted on fb and reading Bently's summary of the rest of it, I came away with an impression that there may be a suspect or POI but LE does not have enough to arrest yet and doesn't want to name the person. JMO. :moo:

 

[Stanly]

I've been thinking about this case and how the police said they found her early on, then that turned out to not be true/a case of mistaken identity. Has anyone else considered that maybe police did that on purpose because they were watching someone and wanted to find out that person's reaction to the news she had been found? After seeing the clip of the AB show tonight posted on fb and reading Bently's summary of the rest of it, I came away with an impression that there may be a suspect or POI but LE does not have enough to arrest yet and doesn't want to name the person. JMO. :moo:

Yes!! I think so too. LE have had Jennas car since 5th Sept and they havent disclosed any info on what may have been found. Im pretty sure if they had found nothing they would say so and maybe hand it back?

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[Shiressleuth]

So about the ex boyfriend ... the HLN segment mentioned that she broke up with him the night she disappeared and that her friend she was texting in SC was on her way to come see her the next day (I got the impression to console her because she was upset about it).

I think that she broke up with him that Friday night is new info here. Did he break up with her in person?


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It was mentioned early in the thread that she wanted a more serious relationship but he didn't. I guess that is what is referred to. So did she head off to S.C. and run out of gas? Someone stop to help with bad intentions?