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Good.She can not say that it was an accident and he fell and bumped his head as an excuse.
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Good.She can not say that it was an accident and he fell and bumped his head as an excuse.
I don't believe so because in the indictment it says 'unknown object'.I guess there is also the chance she threw it out with his remains.
If she threw it out with the remains, it wouldn't necessarily have been found with the remains, or recognisable as the murder weapon if it was. Quinton's remains were partial and, as far as I know, skeletal. He wasn't found neatly in a container or bag of some kind, with the murder weapon neatly bundled with him. I don't even know if they found his skull, or just a torso. A weapon in this case could be anything. A kitchen tool, a glass bottle, an ornament, a baseball bat. Hell, a can of beans could kill a baby if you hit them with it. At least looking for Quinton's body, they knew they were looking for human remains of a baby. An object could be anything. Unless it was left in the home, and identified through forensic testing, they would have known they were unlikely to find it. I don't think they expected to find Quinton, either, they just hoped they would. And having found him, they have a rough idea of COD, which without, they would have had to speculate and try to sell it to the jury. With him, she can't spin a story of a fall or accidental drowning or anything that paints her in a sympathetic, young-mum-over-her-head way. She beat a toddler to death, and there's no way to spin that that sounds like an unfortunate, tragic accident that she panicked over and tried to cover up. It sounds every bit as vicious as it was. You have to be a certain kind of person to hit a toddler hard even once. To do it again and again with an object until he's dead... well. I know the trial is still to come, but I think she's in the right place.I don't believe so because in the indictment it says 'unknown object'.
No wonder she didn't call 911 like a normal person if something 'happened', no wonder NOBODY IN THAT FAMILY ever searched for him when he went 'missing'', nor publicly plea for his safe return...She can not say that it was an accident and he fell and bumped his head as an excuse.
I wonder about that. Something jumped out at me the first time I heard the indictment read. So I went back to reread... For instance in count 2 they say "the nature of the object being unknown to the grand jury at this time"I don't believe so because in the indictment it says 'unknown object'.
I suspect she'll go for a plea deal. Would she want the entire world to watch how her tawdry life is lived, and to hear about what she did to that baby. But yeah, if there is a trial, DY is star witness for the prosecution, I agree.I still wonder if DY is going to be a star witness for the prosecution. He knows things IF he didn’t participate. He left immediately after talking to LE
I wonder about that. Something jumped out at me the first time I heard the indictment read. So I went back to reread... For instance in count 2 they say "the nature of the object being unknown to the grand jury at this time"
Then in count 3 they say "in a manner unknown to the grand jury at this time"
So here's the question: would LE withhold sensitive details from the G jury, if they know they have enough to get an indictment without disclosing certain things?
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I wonder about that. Something jumped out at me the first time I heard the indictment read. So I went back to reread... For instance in count 2 they say "the nature of the object being unknown to the grand jury at this time"
Then in count 3 they say "in a manner unknown to the grand jury at this time"
So here's the question: would LE withhold sensitive details from the G jury, if they know they have enough to get an indictment without disclosing certain things?
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Full Timeline on Google Docs
TIMELINE - PART ONE - BEFORE MISSING - UPDATED DEC 15
~2019
BroZ born - current age "around 3" (18@1:35)
Apr 12, 2019
CCPD dispatched to 5801 Garrard Avenue for fight btw MomLS & her brother Paul, in which she had him arrested (56)
2019
MomLS met BioDad at a swimming hole (77**)
2020
MomsBfDY arrested in Harnett Co, NC on drug charges (88)
Feb 28, 2020
MomLS charged with driving w suspended license; reduced to no license on person in Burke County, GA (80)
Jun 16, 2020 (79)
MomLs arrested & charged with first degree felony burglary (pleaded down to criminal trespass) for breaking into neighbor's trailer home in Waynesboro where she was living with GmaBJH & stealing $50; MomLS blamed BioDad (77**)
Summer 2020
MomLS & GmaBJH evicted; MomLS moved in w BioDad in Hiltonia, GA (77**)
Oct 17, 2020
MomLS arrested for traffic / seatbelt violation (72) & possession of marijuana (73) in Hampton Co, SC
Jan 8, 2021 (51)
Q born - current age 20 months (14) - [cf Sat Jan 8] in AL (77**)
Feb 2021
MomLS & BioDad break up after BioDad is served arrest warrant for Jun 2020 theft; friend recorded MomLS admitting to framing BioDad (77**)
~Apr 2021 ("1 year and 3 months" prior to Jul 30 2022 FB post)
MomLS begins relationship with MomsBfDY (48)
~Jul 2021 ("since Q was five months old")
GmaBJH [& SGpaTH? (63)] awarded custody of Q & BroZ (14)
Nov 2021
MomLS arrested & charged with Felony Larceny by Employee in Dunn, NC, where she was living (70) after theft of 2 packs of cigarettes, a bag of popcorn, and a lemon-flavored drink from Love's Truck Stop (71); pled to a lesser crime & has served 5 mo probation, which also requires 48 hours of community service (71)
Jan 8
MomLS posts on FB: "I want to scream a big happy birthday to my 2nd baby Quinton hard to believe You 1 years old. Mommy loves and missed and will see you soon. To spoil and love all over you. Happy birthday Quinton I love you and I miss you oh so much" (51)
Mar 16
MomLS posts on FB: "In need of someone to watch my boys while I work 2-10 my kids are 3 and 1 and I'm willing to pay" (50)
Apr 18
MomLS sentenced & put on probation for Jun 2020 burglary (79) - cf Jun 16, 2020
Apr 2022
GA Dept of Human Services sued to require MomLS to remit monthly child support payments for her two sons (34)
~Apr 2022 ("about six months ago")
SitterDM began watching Q & BroZ (9@0:28) at GmaBJH's request (36@1:16:11)
~summer 2022 ("within the past couple of months")
MomLS moved in w GmaBJH (14)
~summer 2022
According to SitterDM, her daughter had seen Q & BroZ unsupervised in backyard pool (98@32:15)
Jun 6 (49)
MomLS gave birth to SisS (14), daughter of MomsBfDY (48); SitterDM also watched SisS (36@1:25:40)
Aug 9
MomLS posts on FB: "Things are starting to look up!!! Got a new job making [money emoji] (47)
W Sep 7
MomLS called LE during argument w GmaBJH [about laundry (56)], during which MomLS stated she was on probation & didn't want trouble & MomLS's brother stated that MomLS had history of stealing to buy drugs (22); MomLS claimed GmaBJH shoved her & MomLS "didn't want her kids around that" but did not want to press charges (56)
Th Sep 8
GmaBJH filed eviction notice for MomLS and MomsBfDY, stating that they damaged her property (22)
F Sep 16
Sheriff's office mailed MomLS & MomsBfDY eviction notice from GmaBJH (14)
Su Sep 18
MomLS posts on FB: "Can’t even horse play with my man and kids without someone coming in the room assuming the worse" (46)
W Sep 21
MomLS failed to appear in court; judge ruled that she pay $150/month in child support beginning Nov 1 for Q & BroZ (34)
sometime in Sep 2022
GmaBJH left for 3-week work assignment in IL, hoping to get back before MomLS & MomsBfDY moved out (14)
Su Sep 25
MomLS posts on FB: "In need of homes for rent in the Savannah ga area within 800-1300 price range if anyone knows anybody or any place that kids friendly neighborhood please let me know" (45)
around M Sep 26 - Sa Oct 1
MomLS & MomsBfDY presumably received eviction notice from GmaBJH (14)
T Oct 4
- SitterDM watched kids, who then went home that night (9@0:30) around 4:30 or 5PM (36@1:21:55)
- [TIME?] MomLS left residence to meet her drug dealer (113)
PART ONE SOURCES (see media thread)
Full timeline on Google Docs
TIMELINE - PART TWO - AFTER MISSING - UPDATED DEC 15
W OCT 5: LAST REPORTED SIGHTING / DAY 1 OF SEARCH
search residence & neighborhood w drone, K9, dive team, helicopter
Th Oct 6: DAY 2
- [TIME?] - MomLS left residence to place Q’s body in dumpster at Azalea Mobile Park Home (113)
- 5:29AM - SitterDM rec text [[from MomLS (22)] from MomsBfDY (36@1:22:20) (98@7:20)] that she would not be babysitting Q & BroZ that morning (9@0:44)
- 5:44AM - According to “Cher,” the back door was open (98@7:43)
- 6:00AM - LAST REPORTED SIGHTING (1) by MomsBfDY (14) when he left for work (22); MomLS told LE he was in his playpen (25@0:45); According to sGpaTH (who owns the house but was out of town; GmaBJH was still driving in from out of state), people at home at the time: MomLS, MomsBfDY, 3 kids, MomsBrother (7)
- 7:30AM-8:30AM - SitterDM & family outside home across the street but did not see Q (36@1:26:30)
- [TIME?] - According to Oct 24 interview, MomLS claims "my kids woke up to me screaming, 'where's Quinton?' and running through the house. I ran and looked everywhere -- inside, outside, and just started screaming for help." (78@0:45)
- 9:00AM - SitterDM rec text [from a grandparent (22)] [from MomsBfDY (36@1:44:30)] asking if she'd seen Q, but when she went to residence to help search, she was turned away (9@1:03); SitterDM states that she told MomLS to call LE(36@1:30:00)
- [TIME?] - GmaBJH learned abt Q's disappearance from phone call from SitterDM (14)
- 9:30AM (14) 9:39AM (17@2:55) - Reported missing to LE by MomLS (1) who said she "woke up, her door was open... thinks someone came in and took him" (32@0:13)
- 9:42AM - LE dispatched to residence (1), searched home (4)
- around 10:15AM ("about a half hour later") - SitterDM offered to watch other children & took them home with her (36@1:33:00)
- AM (77**) - LE contacted BioDad and "did not believe he was involved" (4) due to the fact he "works very much, very north of here" (10@0:34), despite MomLS telling sGpaTH that BioDad came and picked him up (7); BioDad states he was mowing lawn when police came & had been at work in Girard, GA ~85 miles away at ~7:40am that day & had not been in Savannah area for a month; told police "she's gonna hurt that baby" (77**)
- 12:34PM - CCPD search area on foot with a drone and K9 unit (1)
- ~1PM - FBI joins investigation - cf 5:58PM (98@11:43)
- 2:04PM - CCPD shut down Chatham Parkway, Louis B Mills, & Buckhalter Rd to continue search (1)
- 2:48PM - CCPD reopen Buckhalter Rd (1)
- around 3PM - sGpaTH arrives home from out of town (16@0:02)
- 3:33PM - ChiefJH met with media - nothing to indicate abduction; "does not appear to be a custody dispute, and all parties are cooperating"; have responded to two calls for service at the home in the last two years (neither for missing child) (2)
- 5:58PM - CCPD announces that FBI is assisting (6)
- 6:52PM - ground search continues; plan to search with helicopter and heat-seeking tech (2)
- [TIME?] - dive team also on scene (7) - possibly to search pool, which is included in later list of locations searched within first five days (25@0:55)
- 10:08PM - 75 LE officers and volunteers combed area (2)
- [TIME?] - LE secure search warrant for residence (10@1:15)
- PM - FBI & CCPD search home with flashlights & cameras (8)
- PM - LE cruiser remains at residence overnight (14)
- [TIME?] - neighbors state they'd seen Q out wandering the street in the past (7)
- [TIME?] MomLS makes following false statements to LE (112):
- Count 6: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that her visit to her dealer on Oct 4 was to pay an existing drug debt
- Count 7: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that the only controlled substance she regularly used was marijuana
- Count 8: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that the only controlled substance she’d used in the past twenty-four hours was marijuana
- Count 9: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at a Chevron station
- Count 10: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 5 her trip to the Azalea Mobile Home early Oct 5
search neighborhood, trash cans, sheds on sGpaTH's other property, "other locations" - ATVs
F Oct 7: DAY 3
- 2:00AM - Search ends for night (17@1:35)
- 3:30AM - GmaBJH arrives home (16@0:03) but with crime scene tape up had to stay in motel (14)
- 5:53AM - CCPD states no overnight developments (3)
- 8:00AM - Search resumes (17@1:35)
- 10:11AM - FBI on scene with ATVs (11), search trash cans in neighborhood including SitterDM's (12) & locked sheds on sGpaTH's other property (15)
- ~11AM - FBI returns to residence after sweep of neighborhood (18@0:54)
- 11:11AM - LE is "obtaining other search warrants at other locations today" (13)
- AM - GmaBJH, who was working out of town in IL, states "I couldn’t imagine that she would hurt one of her kids but I can’t say the thought hasn’t gone through my mind a hundred thousand times" (14), states "I don't know what to believe right now... I don't know if I can trust her" (16@1:09)
- AM - ChiefJH holds presser: they are conducting interviews and "downloading phones and things of that nature" today (17@0:35)
- AM - Neighbors claim MomLS & MomsBfDY returned to residence that morning after questioning (19)
- 6:00PM - arguing heard throughout the day, including at 6PM as recorded in VIDEO @ timestamp 1:30 (19)
- PM - BioDad drives from out of town to help search (18@1:50) talk w FBI & take paternity test, which was positive (77**)
- [TIME? “within 48 hours of Simon reporting her son missing”] CCPD & FBI canvased Azalea Mobile Home Plaza, asking if anyone had seen MomLS, Q, or a certain vehicle. Waste Management picks up waste from the neighborhood’s five large dumpsters three times per week. (94)
search phone data, ponds
Sa Oct 8: DAY 4
- 10:00AM - ChiefJH gives update as part of Chatham County Commission Meeting - exhausted grid search; still investigating phone data & other avenues along w FBI (20)
- 2:00PM - pond searched with waders & poles (21)
- [TIME?] ReporterBB(WSAV) requests bodycam video from responding officers to the missing persons call (28) - xrf Mon Oct 10
- [TIME?] Search warrant issued for swimming pool at residence (34)
- PM - BioDad stops by residence, finds what looks "like a party"; states MomLS told him she didn't know where Q was (77**)
search
Su Oct 9: DAY 5
- 8:09AM - CCPD SM update - still searching w FBI, no need of volunteers (23)
- [TIME?] MomLS makes following false statements to LE (112):
- Count 11: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 8 that her visit to her dealer on Oct 4 was to pay an existing drug debt
- Count 12: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 8 that she had used controlled substances on the night of Oct 4 (cf Count 8)
- Count 13: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 8 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at Azalea Mobile Home Park
- Count 14: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 8 the purpose of her visit to the Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5
search
M Oct 10: DAY 6
- 9:34AM - CCPD SM update - "re-canvassing some specific areas" along with FBI (24)
- 2:03PM - CCPD SM update - poster & tip line (26)
empty swimming pool
Tu Oct 11: DAY 7
- 8:58AM - CCPD SM update - "no overnight developments," will have presser at 2PM (27)
- 10:53AM - ReporterBB(WSAV)'s request for body cam footage denied by co attorney "due to an ongoing criminal prosecution and investigation" (28) - xref Fri Oct 7
- 12:10AM - ReporterBB(WSAV) posts that county attorney claims clerical error on previous statement, now held "due to ongoing law enforcement investigation" (29) - xref Fri Oct 7
- 1:21PM - ReporterBB(WSAV) posts video of LE draining pool (30)
- 2:28PM - ChiefJH holds presser:
- over 40 FBI agents supporting investigation as requested by CCPD (31@0:40)
- "don't have anything confirmed... looking at criminal investigation aspect" but "everybody is being looked at" (31@1:54)
- re-searched home today (31@3:53)
- "can't answer" if family members continue to be cooperative (31@5:30)
- do not know where MomLS & MomsBfDY are currently but believes they are at residence (31@5:53)
- feels they have gotten further along in investigation but can't give specifics (31@7:25)
- BioDad not a suspect (31@9:06)
- 3:08PM - Chatham Fire Dept at residence with hose trucks to assist in draining swimming pool (33)
- [TIME?] - FBI tapes black plastic over windows of residence, presumably to search for evidence using luminol (34)
- 4:06PM - LE and First Responders have left residence (33)
- 4:32PM - Q's family returns to residence, declines to speak to journalist (33)
- PM - "Gray Hughes Investigates" channel livestreams reaction to SitterDM's FB live stream -
- SitterDM kept kids daily from around 5:30 or 6 until 3:30 or later (36@1:21:15) on Mondays through Fridays and sometimes at night (36@1:21:50); charged $30/day for two boys, didn't charge for baby sister S (36@1:25:40);
- SitterDM states GmaBJH worked out of town (36@1:17:11); she would call/text GmaBJH if she noticed things wrong, including:
- SitterDM had to call MomsBfDY to get milk for Q's baby sister S [on unknown date] (36@1:19:00);
- SitterDM sent GmaBJH pictures of bruises on Q [on unknown date] (36@1:19:10)
- "the other day" [unknown date] Q had belt bruises on arm and neck (36@1:41:42)
- SitterDM offered to keep children [on unknown date] until GmaBJH got home but GmaBJH wanted to give MomLS a second chance (36@1:20:00);
- SitterDM's timeline:
- Tue 4:30 or 5:00PM - kids went home (36@1:21:55) - crf Tue Oct 4;
- Wed 5:29AM - received text from MomsBfDY saying the kids are not coming, MomLS is with them (36@1:22:20) - crf Wed Oct 5;
- Wed 7:30AM SitterDM's husband left for work (36@1:25:50);
- Wed 8:30AM SitterDM's son left for work (36@1:26:00);
- SitterDM outside from 7:30AM-8:30AM and did not see Q (36@1:26:30) - crf Wed Oct 5;
- Wed 9:00AM "have you seen Q" text from MomsBfDY while SitterDM was on way home from McDonald's; called him back; he said they couldn't find Q (36@1:44:30) - crf Wed Oct 5;
- SitterDM offered to help look, MomBfDY said, "we already looked;" MomLS sitting on porch smoking (36@1:27:15);
- SitterDM called GmaBJH, told MomLS to call police (36@1:30:00), police came and blocked SitterDM in (36@1:30:45) - crf Wed Oct 5;
- around 10:15AM - SitterDM came back "about a half hour later," offered to take other kids, called GmaBJH (36@1:33:00) - crf Wed Oct 5; "this morning" [unknown date], GmaBJH came to SitterDM's house to confront her, accuse her of kidnapping (36@1:25:45)
"seized evidence"
W Oct 12: DAY 8: LEILANI SIMON NAMED PRIME SUSPECT
- 10:18AM - CCPD SM update - LE has "seized evidence that we believe will help move this case forward" (35)
- 6:58PM - Video posted of confrontation between GmaBJH & SitterDM regarding memorial/prayer service being organized by SitterDM; SitterDM states that Georgia DCFC has open case involving Q (37)
- [TIME?] GmaBJH's posted on FB for help getting pool fixed; post quickly removed (37)
CCPD believes Q is deceased & names LEILANI SIMON as prime suspect
Th Oct 13: DAY 9
- 10:19AM - CCPD SM update - LE will be at residence w search dogs & investigators; expect presser tomorrow (38)
- 11:54AM - Video posted of FBI SUVs pulling into driveway next door to residence (39)
- 12:51PM - Video posted of MomLS & unknown passenger refusing to speak to media, leaving neighborhood in white Chevy Silverado (40)
- 10:21PM - Q's family informed that he is not alive (41)
- 10:38PM - CCPD confirms that they believe Q is deceased & name LEILANI SIMON as prime suspect; no arrests made & no charges filed; will hold presser tomorrow (42)
- 11:28PM - According to Q's family, Q's body has not been found but the search currently involves a landfill (43)
- [TIME?] CPS remove BroZ and SisS from custody (84**)
- [TIME?] MomLS makes following false statements to LE (112):
- Count 15: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 12 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at Azalea Mobile Home Park (cf Count 13)
- Count 16: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 12 that she had only discarded “normal household garbage” at Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5
- Count 17: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 12 the purpose of her visit to the Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5 (cf Count 14)
F Oct 14: DAY 10
- 8:27AM - According to GmaBJH, MomLS doesn't remember anything about the morning Q disappeared (44)
- 10:44AM - No scene at residence, no active search at the time (52)
- 11:59AM - Video posted of people coming and going from residence (54)
- 1:00PM - CCPD presser:
- Q is deceased (53)
- MomLS is primary suspect - there have been no arrests or charges filed, will do so when ready; they do not know her current location but do not believe she is a flight risk (53)
- they CANNOT disclose info about the location of their searching, the specific evidence found, or where other children are (53)
- 1:53PM - Video posted of visitors with food, flowers coming to residence (55)
M Oct 17: DAY 13
- 5:13AM - Memorial set up in front of residence (57)
- 1:10PM - CCPD SM update: they "continue to gather and analyze evidence" through the weekend but do not anticipate any searches or public activity (58)
- 2:44PM - Family confirms MomLS is not in a hospital (59)
- [TIME?] - GmaBJH's friends from out of town arrive(?) (84**)
custody hearing
- [TIME?] MomLS appears for court hearing for custody of BroZ and SisS [and leaves in a white GMC Sierra truck (60@0:55)]; GmaBJH & a grandfather of one of the children also in attendance; fathers of BroZ & SisS attend virtually; judge seals hearing from public & places attendees under gag order (60)
- [TIME?] CCPD states there is "no new information to provide" in search for Q (60)
PART TWO SOURCES (see media thread)
Full timeline on Google Docs
TIMELINE - PART THREE - DURING LANDFILL SEARCH - UPDATED DEC 15
Tu Oct 18: DAY 14: SEARCH AT LANDFILL BEGINS
landfill (day 1) - protestors arrive - Tybee Island bar
W Oct 19: DAY 15
- 11:00AM - CCPD presser:
- evidence has led them to search specific area in Waste Management landfill for Q's remains - it is the only place they are currently searching (61)
- they believe he was placed into specific dumpster at specific location (61)
- no one has been charged - they are still working, investigating, do not want to harm future prosecution (61)
- they still believe MomLS is not a flight risk (61)
- 2:30PM - LE provide drone footage of search at landfill (62)
- 8:59PM - Protestors across the street from residence "screaming for an arrest" (64)
- PM - MomLS & GmaBJH seen drinking and taking shots at a bar [Sting Ray's Seafood (67)] in Tybee Island, GA ~40min from residence (65) with friends from out of town (84**); asked for waiter's number, ran up tab over $300 (69)
landfill (day 2)
F Oct 21: DAY 17
- AM - GmaBJH seen at hotel [Sandcastle Inn (68)] across from bar in Tybee Island, GA ~40min from residence, photo posted of GmaBJH talking to local LE (66)
- [TIME?] - Tybee LE called to Sandcastle Inn on complaints of people "shouting towards the motel"; GmaBJH told LE she was leaving (68) & departed on white motorcycle (69)
landfill (day 4) - 3 protestors arrested
Sa Oct 22: DAY 18 - protestor arrested
- 1:38PM - CCPD will be "standing down" from their landfill search on Sat-Sun and using that time to continue other aspects of investigation (74)
- [TIME?] Chatham County Board of commissioners approves reallocation of $250,000 from the school zone camera fund to police to support an "active long-term investigation." (75)
- [TIME?] LE called to residence for complaints of protestors acting disorderly; LE informs them of their rights and left (76)
- [TIME?] LE called to residence again bc 3 protestors are blocking driveway; when they refuse to move, "William Garrett, Wanda Boatwright and John Boatwright were charged with disorderly conduct for stopping, standing or parking prohibited in specified places." (76)
Su Oct 23: DAY 19
- [TIME?] GmaBJH's 11-minute phone conversation w BioDad recorded (84**) - cf Wed Oct 26
- GmaBJH states "I feel like there was an accident... I feel like something happened while Quinton was in the bathtub, and he drowned, and they were both high. That's my theory." (84**)
- GmaBJH claims that LE were ones to say that MomLS must have blacked out (84**)
- GmaBJH claims that LE has video of dumpster where Q's body was dumped but she has not seen it (84**)
- GmaBJH claims MomsBfDY is in Dunn, NC, NOT Atlanta, GA (84**)
- GmaBJH states "I knew Leilani and Danny were having their problems, but I didn't really see it affecting the kids" (84**)
- GmaBJH claims MomLS is starting a rehab program this week and receiving counseling (84**)
- GmaBJH states she needs to return to work but isn't sure how (84**)
- GmaBJH claims that LE told her she could leave but MomLS had to stay (84**)
- PM - Protestor Kimberly Tahyer arrested and charged with criminal trespass after "banging on the windows and doors of the home" (76)
M Oct 24: DAY 20
- death of Q's paternal grandmother, mother of BioDad, at age 43 (90)
landfill (day 5)
Tu Oct 25: DAY 21
- Search resumes at landfill (82@1:24)
- MomLS states in interview:
- "my kids woke up to me screaming, 'where's Quinton?' and running through the house. I ran and looked everywhere -- inside, outside, and just started screaming for help." (78@0:45) - cf Wed Oct 5
- "we have to barricade our own home" because of protestors' "harassment and negligence and everything" (78)
- the family has put up security cameras and floodlights (78)
- claims she is not a flight risk: “I’m here. I’ve been here every day since this. I’m not running and I’m not hiding. And if something does come up that I am at fault, I will take myself to that police station" (78)
- she hopes he won't be found in the landfill, but he is being cared for by someone else who took him (78)
- PM - police dispatched to residence twice because of protestors (81)
- CourtTV interview with YouTuber Dolly Vision, who states that it is *RUMORED* Q's body was placed in dumpster at Azalea Mobile Homes ~1.5mi from residence and that there is video evidence (82@9:00)
landfill (day 6)
W Oct 26: DAY 22
- PM - police dispatched to residence because of protestors (81)
landfill (day 7)
F Oct 28: DAY 24
- CCPD update - search continues at landfill (83)
- DailyMail releases phone audio between GmaBJH & BioDad (84**) - cf Sat Oct 22
landfill (day 9)
Sa Oct 29: DAY 25
- Q listed in the obituary of his paternal grandmother, mother of BioDad (90)
- 5:11PM - "Police are now back at the family’s home. Quinton’s mom and grandmother are among the people sitting in front of the home. The shouting is from “protestors” trying to get a reaction from the family." (89)
M Oct 31: DAY 27
- funeral for Q's paternal grandmother, mother of BioDad (90)
landfill (day 10)
Tu Nov 1: DAY 28
- [TIME?] Reporters attempt to contact MomsBfDY at address in Dunn, NC, but no one answers (88)
- [TIME?] MomLS makes following false statement to LE (112):
- Count 18: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 31 that it was not her but MomsBfDY who had traveled from the home in the early morning hours of Oct 5
landfill (day 11)
W Nov 2: DAY 29
- [TIME?] Chatham County Police investigator visits residence for unknown reasons (87)
- PM - GmaBJH sits near open window at residence, blaring "Let it Go" in response to protestors (86)
landfill (day 12)
Th Nov 3: DAY 30
- btw 5:30 and 7:20AM - Q’s paternal grandfather (GpaBMS), father of BioDad, is killed by a hit-and-run driver in Burke Co, GA while walking back home after getting a flat tire (92)
- CCPD SM update - search continues at landfill (85)
- ~5PM - GmaBJH seen leaving residence (91)
- 5:36PM - disco ball and speaker blaring “Can You Feel the Love Tonight” noted on fence at residence (91)
Landfill (day 13)
F Nov 4: DAY 31
- AM - memorial at residence has been moved to backyard & fish parts scattered on lawn (93)
- 5:03PM - CCPD SM update:
- have responded to over 50 calls for service & made multiple arrests involving protestors since Oct 12 (94)
- PD “will be unveiling some measures to limit the disruption to this small community” (94)
- some protestors have moved to CCPD headquarters (94)
- 5:21PM - protestor Jimmy Williams (aka “Dolly”) arrested for simple battery & disorderly conduct after grabbing a woman and ripping an airhorn and papers out of her hands (95)
Landfill (day 14)
Tu Nov 8: DAY 35
- “No Loitering” sign placed in front of residence (96)
Landfill (day 16)
Th Nov 10: DAY 37
- Search at landfill to be suspended on Th Nov 10 in preparation for Tropical Storm Nicole (97)
- CourtTV premieres video including:
- “family friend”/YouTuber Cher states that MomsBfDY was the one to cancel with SitterDM - cf M Oct 5 (98@7:20)
- “family friend”/YouTuber Cher states that back door was open until 5:44 AM - cf M Oct 5 (98@7:43)
- SitterDM states that her daughter had seen Q & BroZ unsupervised in backyard pool over the summer - cf Summer 2022 (98@32:15)
- Large banner installed on residence gate advertising “family friend”/YouTuber Cher (“Voices Behind the Wall”) (99)
M Nov 14: DAY 41
- Search at landfill suspended thru Su Nov on Th Nov 13 due to Tropical Storm Nicole (99)
Landfill (day 18)
F Nov 18: DAY 45
- CCPD SM update - continuing search in landfill with no definite end date (100)
Landfill (day 22)
S Nov 20: DAY 47
- LE found what they believed to be human remains (103)
- CCPD state that search at landfill suspended for Thanksgiving week (101)
PART THREE SOURCES (see media thread)
Full timeline on Google Docs
TIMELINE - PART FOUR - FOLLOWING ARREST - UPDATED DEC 15
M Nov 21: DAY 48 - LEILANI SIMON ARRESTED
Tu Nov 22: DAY 49
- Preliminary testing confirms that remains found in landfill were human; further testing will be done to confirm that it is Q (103)
- MomLS taken into custody, transported to Chatham County Detention Center (102) to await bond hearing (103); charged with “malice murder, concealing the death of another person, false reporting, and making false statements in connection with the disappearance” of Q (103); LE do not anticipate any other arrests (102)
- CCPD holds press conference
- Will not state whether they believe Q was alive when he was put into dumpster (105@5:20)
- Will not state whether they believe Q’s death was accidental or intentional (105@5:30)
- States that there was not any talk among LE about giving MomLS the opportunity to turn herself in (105@12:40)
- [TIME?] MomLS makes following false statement to LE (112):
- Count 19: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Nov 21 that although it was her and not MomsBfDY who went to Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5 and that she did not have contact with her friend “Misty” there, that she did not remember what she had done there
W Nov 23: DAY 50
- Unnamed family friend states that
- MomLS has been in a treatment center for the past few weeks (104)
- GmaBJH allegedly “caught wind that Leilani was going to check herself out of the treatment center” and called FBI; took MomLS to lunch; and then drove her to FBI office (104) - compare statement at M Nov 21 presser (105@12:40)
M Nov 28: DAY 55
- MomLS waived right to appear at bond hearing; is represented by public defender; enters not guilty plea (106)
- MomLS’s court date set for JAN 11, 2023 (106)
T Nov 29
- FBI confirms by DNA testing that the human remains found in the landfill belong to Q (107)
M Dec 12 - BILLIE JO HOWELL ARRESTED
- GmaBJH states that MomLS has been placed on suicide watch at jail; they have not been able to talk but GmaBJH states that “other inmates at the jail have been calling her to update her (108)
- Q’s obituary published (109)
W Dec 14
- GmaBJH arrested for contempt of court (110)
W Jan 11, 2023
- Press Conference: MomLS indicted on the following 19 charges by Chatham County grand jury (111 @ 8:55)
- Indictment (FULL TEXT HERE) states that MomLS beat Q “with an object” causing “cruel and excessive pain” (112). Charges include:
- Count 1: Malice murder 16-5-1(a)
- Count 2: Felony murder 16-5-1(c) / Aggravated Assault 16-5-21
- Count 3: Felony murder 16-5-1(c) / Cruelty to child in first degree 16-5-70
- Count 4: Concealing the death of another 16-10-31
- Count 5: False report of a crime 16-10-26
- Count 6: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that her visit to her dealer on Oct 4 was to pay an existing drug debt
- Count 7: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that the only controlled substance she regularly used was marijuana
- Count 8: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that the only controlled substance she’d used in the past twenty-four hours was marijuana
- Count 9: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 5 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at a Chevron station
- Count 10: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 5 her trip to the Azalea Mobile Home early Oct 5
- Count 11: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 8 that her visit to her dealer on Oct 4 was to pay an existing drug debt (cf Count 6)
- Count 12: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 8 that she had used controlled substances on the night of Oct 4 (cf Count 8)
- Count 13: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 8 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at Azalea Mobile Home Park (cf Counts 9 & 10)
- Count 14: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 8 the purpose of her visit to the Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5
- Count 15: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 12 that she had left the home early Oct 5 to obtain Orajel (topical pain reliever) from a friend “Misty” at Azalea Mobile Home Park (cf Count 13)
- Count 16: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 12 that she had only discarded “normal household garbage” at Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5
- Count 17: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - concealing on Oct 12 the purpose of her visit to the Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5 (cf Count 14)
- Count 18: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Oct 31 that it was not her but MomsBfDY who had traveled from the home in the early morning hours of Oct 5
- Count 19: Making a false statement 16-10-20 - falsely stating on Nov 21 that although it was her and not MomsBfDY who went to Azalea Mobile Home Park on Oct 5 and that she did not have contact with her friend “Misty” there, that she did not remember what she had done there
- MomLS preliminary hearing (108)
PART FOUR SOURCES (see media thread)
Exactly what I was saying, A child that small could not possibly do anything to deserve that kind of abuse. My goodness, how could a mother look at that face and then beat him to death? I could not treat a dog like that.How the heck do you beat a defensless child to death?
It's mind boggling
If she had full custody of the children, could it have been from leaving them with the Mom who lost custody of them? Also, maybe because drug use was going on in the house?We are learning new information about the jailing of Billie Jo Betterton, also known as Billie Jo Howell, the grandmother of formerly missing toddler Quinton Simon.
Betterton was jailed Monday, December 12, for violating a court order.
Her mugshot shows her wearing a suicide-prevention smock.
According to the Chatham County Sheriff's Office, Juvenile Court Judge Lindretta Grindle Kramer found her in contempt of court and sentenced her to ten days in jail.
Betterton is due to be released on December 22nd.
WJCL 22 News is told that Betterton has had no contact with her daughter, Leilani Simon, and is being held in a separate unit.
It's unclear what order Betterton was accused of violating.
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Grandmother of Quinton Simon sentenced to 10 days in jail for violating court order
WJCL 22 News is told that Betterton has had no contact with her daughter, Leilani Simon, and is being held in a separate unit.www.wjcl.com
My guess is contempt of court for grandma for refusing to.. or not reporting at all or in time for.. a mandatory drug testing herself, (for the child custody hearings that are gagged) perhaps. mooIf she had full custody of the children, could it have been from leaving them with the Mom who lost custody of them? Also, maybe because drug use was going on in the house?
My guess is contempt of court for grandma for refusing to.. or not reporting at all or in time for.. a mandatory drug testing herself, (for the child custody hearings that are gagged) perhaps. moo
Could be! So many possibilities it seems with these people.I was thinking ( For possible Contempt of Court charges ) along the lines of grandma possibly may have violated a 'No contact' rule, regarding the other two minors. MOO