GA - Theresa Parker, 41, Lafayette, 21 March 2007 - #2

[rd_jfc]

from walker county messenger:
“I knew it was not her because she was over at her apartment cleaning. A neighbor saw her outside about 10:15 p.m. talking on her cell phone,” Christina said.

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[rd_jfc]

gagal wrote:
<i>...I think the neighbor just saw her on the phone when she made the phone call to her sister.</i>

Yes, that's possible, gagal. The time is close enough. However, I believe the police said they know who the last phone call from Theresa's cell phone is with but are not disclosing it. If I have that wrong, somebody please let me know.

I can't imagine them withholding that it was to her sister. It would be ironic if the phone call Christine refers to that the neighbor saw was actually to herself.

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[rd_jfc]

I did think of one more thing, though. Christine says she knows that Theresa was at her apartment because the neighbor saw her there. If the call was to her, she would have said I know Chrisine was at her apartment, she called me from there.

It sounds like the 10 pm call to her sister was before Theresa got to her apartment, although I guess it's possible fr Theresa to call and not indicate where she is. Doubtful to me, though.

rd

 

[rd_jfc]

gagal wrote:
...plus if he called from his cell phone then they would also be able to tell what tower his phone hit off of when he called her and be able to put him in the location of the marital home.

This is a really important point. It also plays into the search for Theresa based on the last signals from her cell phone.

The cell phone company is only able to locate the phone in that area within 40 square miles. Did Sam know that? If so, he would be able to call from anywhere with impunity and say he was anywhere, the cell phone signals would not be able to determine it.

My thought in my earlier posts was that Sam called Theresa from his cell phone at 10:15 pm to say something that would get Theresa back to her house rather than staying. Goodness knows she would have been tired, it's not like it would have taken a whole lot, but she had just told her sister an hour earlier she'd be cleaning in her apartment till after midnight.

I also thought that Sam would have indicated he was elsewhere, and that he expected that Theresa would call her sister and tell her that she was on her way home and indicate Sam was elsewhere so the call from her house at 10:44 pm would not be suspected to be Sam.

It really would be helpful to know who that last phone call was with.

rd

 

[gagal]

from walker county messenger:
&#8220;I knew it was not her because she was over at her apartment cleaning. A neighbor saw her outside about 10:15 p.m. talking on her cell phone,&#8221; Christina said.

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The sheriff said that the sister was aslsep when Theresa called and they only spoke briefly and since Theresa called from the cell phone the sister wouldn't have known where she was unless she specifically said where are you. From the indications the sheriff gave the sister just assumed she was still at the apartment when she called because she had told her she would be there until around midnight.

When she said she knew it wasn't her calling, she was referring to the 10:44 phone call from the house. At the time, they were saying that it would be unlikely that she could have gotten from the apartment to her house from the around 10:15 timeframe when the neighbor saw her at the apartment and 10:44 when the call came in to the sister from the marital home. Actually though later they reported that the trip to the marital home from the apartment was only 24 miles so that would give her enough time to get there in the 29 mins after the neighbor saw her (and of course the neighbor said around 10:15 so it could have been 10:09 or 10:10, etc., which would have given her more time. If you travel 60 miles an hour, she could have traveled 29 miles in those 29 minutes and it was late at night so there wouldn't have been much traffic out to slow her down so I think it is definitely possible that Theresa made the call from the house, but I do think it more likely that it came from Sam.

Also as far as them saying they weren't gonna discuss who the last phone call was with, I think that was in the beginning before the Nancy Grace interview and I think they were just trying to hold everything close to their vests so to speak until they got more info from Sam Parker or possibly got all the details from the wireless provider to say definitively who she talked to. In that interview with Nancy, he clearly says there was a call from Theresa's cell phone to the sister shortly after 10 but didn't mention another call made from that phone. Of course I'm still open to the possibility that there is a whole other call that they haven't told us about and hopefully there is because that would mean they have more info than what we think they do. It's all so confusing and hard to keep up with.

 

[gagal]

gagal wrote:
...plus if he called from his cell phone then they would also be able to tell what tower his phone hit off of when he called her and be able to put him in the location of the marital home.

This is a really important point. It also plays into the search for Theresa based on the last signals from her cell phone.

The cell phone company is only able to locate the phone in that area within 40 square miles. Did Sam know that? If so, he would be able to call from anywhere with impunity and say he was anywhere, the cell phone signals would not be able to determine it.

My thought in my earlier posts was that Sam called Theresa from his cell phone at 10:15 pm to say something that would get Theresa back to her house rather than staying. Goodness knows she would have been tired, it's not like it would have taken a whole lot, but she had just told her sister an hour earlier she'd be cleaning in her apartment till after midnight.

I also thought that Sam would have indicated he was elsewhere, and that he expected that Theresa would call her sister and tell her that she was on her way home and indicate Sam was elsewhere so the call from her house at 10:44 pm would not be suspected to be Sam.

It really would be helpful to know who that last phone call was with.

rd

I doubt he knew they could only pinpoint within a 40-mile radius in that area because what I heard in another interview with the sheriff is that most times they can pinpoint the area down to within at least a mile or sometimes even a block radius - they said that particular wireless company in this area though couldn't pinpoint it closer than 40 miles because it was a more rural area and so the towers that it hit off of were further apart.

Sam calling her to get her back to the house is a definite possibility....the police did get his phone records too though so if that's the case they definitely know that he called her and what time if it came from his cell phone and that could be some more circumstantial evidence they have against him. I agree with you - would definitely love to see the phone records from Theresa's cell, SP's cell, the Trion home he was staying in if there was a phone there, and the marital phone records.

 

[concernedperson]

I believe LE knows he did this crime but have circumstantial evidence and are block building one at a time. Recovery of the body is for the family and I am sure they are trying. The rest is pretty obvious to me. They have already terminated him so it is just what the special prosecutor needs for a grand jury indictment.

This is one case where even though the sheriff is evasive I don't think there is a cover up.

 

[rd_jfc]

yeah, I agree, by evasive I did not mean cover up, but ambiguous answers whcih are hard to draw conclusions from. Nancy tried in that transcript over and over.

rd

 

[concernedperson]

yeah, I agree, by evasive I did not mean cover up, but ambiguous answers whcih are hard to draw conclusions from. Nancy tried in that transcript over and over.

rd

I think we are on the same page.

 

[OnTHEotherHAND...]

Either you guys are missing something here or I am very confussed. The “last call” was much later in the evening than 10:15 or whatever. Consider this snip from the Walker County Messenger, the day of the big search.

“The reason we chose this area is because this is south of the Parker home and because the last cell phone call received was from the cell tower in this area,
Sheriff Wilson said. Sheriff Wilson said the cell phone transmission was made sometime after midnight on Thursday, March 22, but he declined to give any further details.
(Surely the Sheriff is referring to after midnight on Wed. Early am on Thursday ie.” One oclock in the morning”)
The last cell phone transmission from TP’s cell phone was not at 10:00 pm or 10:15 pm, it was after midnight. Two whole hours after the sighting “outside of the new apartment” call. And at least 1 hr. and 15 minutes after the mysterious hang-up call from the residence. Those time periods are minimums because “After midnight” could be anywhere from 12:01 am until 6:00am.
Also, the new apartment location is 20 miles NORTH of the marital residence. The last “cell phone transmission” came from a tower within a 40 mile area SOUTH of the residence. And, that is the “cell phone transmission” of which LE will not reveal to us the details. It could have been to 911, it could have been to the boogie man… If the call had been outbound to Christina, after midnight though, I think Christina would have already said as much.
In fact, the Sheriff says, “The last phone call received”. That would lead me to think that the phone showed an inbound hit vs. an outbound hit. The call was possibly not even answered. In fact, cell phones are constantly pinging the towers. Maybe no call in or out, just a locator ping…
Hummmm……
HELLO. I JUST HAD A FLASH! Maybe whoever was taking TP for a little ride in the trunk of his car also had her purse. Maybe in that purse was a quiet little cell phone minding its own little business. Then, as the driver is desperately searching for a grave site, senses on edge, radio off, driving through the night, fighting back the panic and rush of adrenalin, that cell phone starts playing a ring tone. (I could only imagine what song) The driver thinks, “Oh %*&$, her phone is in the purse, and the damn thing is ringing”. So, the driver pulls off the road, locates the cell phone, perhaps in the trunk with TP, and gives the damn thing a whirl into the river. End of cell phone story.
Back to the timeline-----
TP is on the cell phone in Fort Oglethorpe at or near about 10:15pm. Eye witness confirms it. (neighbor) To whom is she speaking? Well, a sleepy Christina for one—
Could have been a hundred more calls made after that, because as I say, that was not the “last one”.
From 10:15 until after midnight we do not know what Theresa did. Don’t know who else she talked to. We don’t know where she went. As I can tell, we don’t have a clue about that minimum 1 hour and 45 minute period.
We know her cell phone traveled 20 to 60 miles south of the new apartment over the 1 hr and 45 minute period. If TP and her cell phone had been separated, TP could have been in Atlanta, Nashville, Knoxville, Birmingham by that time. (1 hr 45 min drives)
But, her phone was south of the residence and a call was either placed, answered, or not answered and just rung. Most likely however, the phone was with her during that time period whether she was in control of it or not.
As far as her mode of transportation during that period, I assume she had her car at the new apartment 10:15 sighting but no further mention of the car location until 6:00am when SP saw it at the marital residence.

otoh

 

[rd_jfc]

Agreed, and last phone call received is ambiguous, but it was my take that the transmissions after midnight were from cell phone pinging the towers. This is as you describe of the cell phone being in her purse and such, and was the basis for the location for searching for her.

If there was actually a call made with her phone after midnight, and the police are withholding not only who it was with, but that it was in the wee hours south of her house, then the police are withholding a lot more information than I thought.

Even an unanswered call made to her phone at that time would be additional information as to who made the call. I would be very surprised if the cell phone was used after midnight and this information wasn't divulged as to her last known activity.

The last transmissions from her cell phone are an indirect indicator of that, and that's the way it read to me.

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[gagal]

OTOH - we were talking about the other calls that the sheriff spoke of and who they were to and whether or not Sam could have called Theresa to lure her back home, not the tower hits after midnight.

About the hits after midnight, I'm thinking the 3 most likely cases are either the phone was searching for service as he drove with her, her purse, and her phone in the vehicle and it was pinging off the towers or 2) SP could have even thought about throwing people off and used the phone to establish the last place it was and then put Theresa's body at a totally different place than when he last used the phone and then turned it off or 3) as OTOH said he could have not thought about the cell phone until it rang and then turned it off and kept driving a lot farther or went the other direction b/c he knew they would see where the phone was from the cell tower hits........I think it more likely as OTOH said though that it was an incoming call or a locator ping on the tower. Sam seems to have been very smart about the things he did, hence the fact that we still haven't found her, so that is possibly something he thought of.

As far as her in the trunk of his vehicle, I think he used her vehicle to dispose of the body so there would be no evidence of her having been in his vehicle - hence the investigators seeing his vehicle at the residence early the next morning around 6 and not hers and then around an hour later seeing her vehicle back and his gone.

 

[babydust2004]

Tonight on UCTV(a local channel)on Night Talk they were talking to Christina,Theresa's sister.She was talking about a psychic her other sister Hilda has been talking to.The psychic said Theresa is near water but not in water and that there is sand around.People were calling in suggesting a few places in the area that would fit that.One of those is close to Floyd County line apparently.Also someone asked if a well across the street from the residence had been searched and Christina said to her knowledge it had not.She also mentioned a well on the property.They also talked about 2 of Theresa's friends getting phone calls from her phone but noone being on the phone.It was suggested by someone that maybe someone had gotten a hold of her cellphone and was calling people listed in her contacts.

here is the link for the station but there is nothing posted on their site about anything from the show.

http://www.uctv3.com/index.html

I posted this about other phone calls.The only place I have heard this was on Night Talk but they were talking to Christina and she aknowledged these phone calls I believe.Why there has been no more said about them,I don't know.They even mentioned the names of the people who recieved these phone calls but I did not catch them so did not post them.I also did not catch what time these phone calls were made.I wish we had more info on them though in the media.

 

[gagal]

I posted this about other phone calls.The only place I have heard this was on Night Talk but they were talking to Christina and she aknowledged these phone calls I believe.Why there has been no more said about them,I don't know.They even mentioned the names of the people who recieved these phone calls but I did not catch them so did not post them.I also did not catch what time these phone calls were made.I wish we had more info on them though in the media.

That is very interesting. I wish we knew more info on that too. If that is true and those phone calls from her phone were made later in the night after 10:45 or so, it makes me wonder if Sam already had control of her phone and was calling back numbers to see who she had been talking to (especially if there were multiple friends called and no one on the line b/c if she tried to call the 1st friend and Sam caught her and took the phone from her then I'm sure she wouldn't have been able to dial the 2nd friend). I wonder why they haven't reported on this more too????

 

[chicoliving]

~snip~

On Monday night, friends and family held another get together to keep her case and her memory alive. But, it was markedly different from numerous prayer vigils in the weeks Theresa has been missing. On this night, there was play and laughter and music and food.

"the vigils, they're great and they're wonderful," admitted Hall, "but it is just so hard...it just drains and takes everything out of you. So, we were hoping this would be a little more upbeat and fun for everybody and we're hoping for a good turnout."

Parker's family and friends look to fill the Walker County Agricultural Center. Donations and proceeds from the dinners go to help bring Theresa home.

http://www.wrcbtv.com/news/index.cfm?sid=8488

 

[chicoliving]

~snip~

Monday night, co-workers held a barbecue to raise reward money for any details leading to Theresa's whereabouts. The event raised more than $1,300 which organizers say brings the reward fund to about $5,400.

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/theresa_12467___article.html/money_parker.html

 

[philamena]

Continued prayers for Theresa and her loved ones.

 

[MeAgnL8Agn]

Quote from rd_jfc Post 267 message above:

"But also puzzling is why the sister didn't call either the house or Theresa's cell phone when she got a call at 10:44 pm with the caller id of Theresa's house.

She did call the sheriff very early the next morning to do a courtesy check on Theresa's house, and it was posted that a deputy did a drive by a couple of times early the next morning, one with her car not there, later with it there.

Perhaps her sister was asleep and only saw the call and time when she woke up, called with no answer, and called the sheriff's office to ask for a courtesy check?

The lack of calls from Theresa to anyone if she was indeed leaving immediately at 10:15 pm when she got that call, and from her sister when a caller id showed up at 10:44 pm, are anomolies to me.

The sister can explain what she did, but Theresa has been silenced about what she did when she got a call at 10:15 pm "

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I have had a problem understanding the why’s of her sister’s actions since they were reported in much earlier postings (early posting of part 1). I have never understood why she would have asked for a well check on her sister when she did. At the time it was reported she was speaking freely, yet she never said why. Maybe I missed it. Anyone have any information on her?

 

[gagal]

Quote from rd_jfc Post 267 message above:

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I have had a problem understanding the why’s of her sister’s actions since they were reported in much earlier postings (early posting of part 1). I have never understood why she would have asked for a well check on her sister when she did. At the time it was reported she was speaking freely, yet she never said why. Maybe I missed it. Anyone have any information on her?

I just figure that she was worried about her sister since she didn't answer and she knew she was going through the divorce and Sam's history, etc. I didn't actually hear the show where she reported asking for the well check, but I was told the sister said she called the nonemergency 911 number. You have to remember her sister worked there and she might have just called that # that she usually called to get the employees when she wanted to talk to Theresa when she was on duty and asked if they had heard from Theresa, etc. Probably when they said no, she told them she was worried about her, had missed her call and couldn't get in touch with her, and then she either asked or they volunteered and said well "hey I'll just get an officer that is assigned to that area to ride by the house." It was probably somewhat unofficial since they knew Theresa personally. Now, all Christina said was she called the nonemergency 911 # and they did a courtesy well check. The rest I'm just thinking that's how it probably went and we all know what assuming can do so I might not be right, . If Theresa called her sister "shortly after 10", which the sheriff said, and she was already asleep then I bet when the phone call came in at 10:44 the sister was just in a deeper sleep and might not have heard the phone ring and just saw it on the caller ID the next morning or she could have answered and not remembered it the next morning - I've done that before, answered the phone and even talked to people while I was asleep and then when they mention it the next day I don't have any memory of it........

 

[gagal]

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[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]This the latest article on the remains found in Carnesville, GA. It said the woman died within the past 3 years and they could not determine cause of death.

I don't know if anyone knows what Theresa was wearing when last seen, but they give a description of the clothing items found. They also said a breast implant was found. There are also pictures of the clothes in the article. You have to register to access this article but it is quick and free, and they just send you an email to link through. I am going to copy and paste it though so you can read it below: [/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Investigators with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation are asking for the public's help as they try to identify a woman's skeletal remains found May 13 in a swampy area near Carnesville.
GBI forensic anthropologist Rick Snow said the woman likely was 30 to 50 years old and probably died within the past three years, according to information released Monday by the GBI's Athens field office.
An autopsy performed last week couldn't determine a cause of death.
The agency also released photographs of several pieces of clothing found near the body, which landowners discovered as they prepared to break up beaver dams that were flooding land off Georgia Highway 320, about two miles west of Interstate 85 in Franklin County.
The clothing includes a pair of black Reebok Classic high-top tennis shoes, woman's size 81/2; a medium size, dark colored, long-sleeved Chesley brand sweater; a pair of size 10, dark-colored Courtenay brand Capri pants; and a pair of white athletic socks with gray toes delineated by a green stripe.
A breast implant also was found with the woman's remains.
The items were recovered during a three-day search of the area by GBI agents and Franklin County Sheriff's deputies, aided by the Franklin County Public Works Department, which removed water from swampy areas.
Authorities in Franklin and other area counties have searched missing persons reports from recent years, but haven't found a good match.
Anyone with information that could help identify the woman may call the Athens GBI office at (706) 542-7901 or the Franklin County Sheriff's Office at (706) 384-2525.[/FONT]