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He may have used a VPN
That's what I was thinking too. Imo.
He may have used a VPN
"At the time of Jackson County’s investigation, the teen’s father told officers that he and his wife had split up after their family was evicted from their home a few months earlier. The father said he and his son had moved and that, while his son had experienced “some problems” at the middle school he previously attended, things had “gotten a lot better” now that he was attending a new school."The Washington Post has an article stating that the 14 year old shooter "begged for help" for his mental health issues, according to his aunt.
Will this be similar to the Ethan Crumbley case, where cries for help were unheeded by the family?
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Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.Discord is just a chat platform, not dissimilar from Websleuths. I don’t think it really has any anonymity functions aside from just not using your real name. If IP addresses are bouncing around, it’s because of something the user/users are doing, not Discord itself.
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It is interesting to hear about outside the US because this country is such an outlier with the easy access to weapons and the variable security of school buildings. Thank you for sharingThanks for your detailed explanation.
There was a prank threat where I live, not in the US, iirc for the whole state, pop. approx 11 million. idk how many schools but an awful lot. iirc schools were allowed to decide for themselves whether to stay open that day or not. So I was thinking of that kind of prank rather than lockdown within a particular school due to a threat already showing itself. I don't know enough about the situation in general in the US, so I will just read along and keep my possibly wrong ideas to myself.
I said it’s “not dissimilar”, not that they’re the same. You can host private threads on here, too, with little oversight. There are all sorts of communities on Discord, and the relevant point being discussed was regarding IP addresses and anonymity. Discord complies with legal demands, messages aren’t encrypted, user logs are maintained as well as IP addresses. The purpose is not an anonymous chat service - that is something more like Telegram.Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.
I referenced “private servers” in which a lot of kids and young adults participate a while back that have been very problematic especially with young boys and young adult men and now there’s news out that the killer used Discord. Why am I not surprised?
A lot of boys use discord, mostly to game and chat with their friends… but you’ll also uncover extremely vile servers that share racist rhetoric, calls for genocide, calls for violence, & more. The kicker is the kids look peachy clean on surface, straight As, good track record, the family’s beloved boy who could do no wrong, etc, then you discover their online activity and it’s shocking.
Ironically, the comments I've read from the students they have interviewed have been imbued with grace and class. mooWhen will this end.
How can somebody at 14 years of age have so much hatred stored up in them.
My heart goes out to the four deceased and I send my thoughts to the 9 rushed to hospital - I feel horrendously for the parents anxiously waiting outside the school for their child to come out knowing that two children won’t return.
Also to the Media please act with class and in the interest of the children - sticking a camera and a microphone in front of a student who has just been in an absolutely terrifying incident is disgrace - The poor student is in complete shock.
Gun crime falls under criminality, not non-criminals.In UK here, and American.
Here, no handguns since an incident in 1996 after a school shooting - Dunblane Massacre.
Hunting / shot guns allowed (no AR types as one doesn’t shoot pheasant or deer with war weapons) - must have license and police check, must be locked in gun cabinet and house must be secure with alarm and need references from specific list of professions. Guns are not for protection, they are for sport shooting birds/deer and farmers maybe shoot a fox terrorizing sheep or chickens. Police come and check at intervals, the check the safe, home alarm. Not 100% sure but might also check w GP Dr for mental health which easier as it’s nationalized health system.
Most police no guns. If they are responding to an incident at a house which they know has a gun - yes, they know because the gun license is logged in the system, they might call armed officers to the house.
Criminals still have guns and shoot people on occasion.
If you shoot an intruder who had not directly threatened you, you get prosecuted for sure.
Regarding this case. Can see police/fbi might not have had enough evidence to arrest a 13 y.o. For a (terror) threat. Can imagine can’t tell an American man (the dad) that he can’t have his guns, can’t require him to lock it away … it’s the”guns not the problem” problem & it’s my constitutional right blah blah.
Can imagine the dad saying gun is secure is that he keeps it out of reach atop the fridge.
America does seem insane as level of gun ownership, gun crime and level of gun recklessness among non-criminals increases every year despite the obvious problem. Requiring gun safes be used in home with minors with regular checks might be a good idea.
Overall America too far gone ….
Good lord, he was 8 when Parkland happened :/Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured
The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.www.dailymail.co.uk
When police searched the teen's Georgia home following the bloodbath, they reportedly found clues the teenager was 'obsessed' with mass shootings - specifically the Parkland massacre in 2018, which left 17 people dead.
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I would say that the caliber can be used for hunting. The actual design of the weapon is not that important.Also, the AR can fall under the category of hunting rifle.
It is refreshing to read about sane gun policy, especially the "guns are not for protection.". Police don't routinely carry guns? They aren't decked out in military gear like they are going to war with the public? I agree, the USA has an insane level of gun ownership and the accompanying violence, crime, and domestic disputes leading to death. Yes, people can still kill with a variety of weapons. A gun is different, partly because it separates the killer from the killed. Pull a trigger? Much easier, less thought and effort that strangling/stabbing someone. I hope this generation of students who has grown up under the constant real threat of a school shooting will make real change as they grow up.In UK here, and American.
Here, no handguns since an incident in 1996 after a school shooting - Dunblane Massacre.
Hunting / shot guns allowed (no AR types as one doesn’t shoot pheasant or deer with war weapons) - must have license and police check, must be locked in gun cabinet and house must be secure with alarm and need references from specific list of professions. Guns are not for protection, they are for sport shooting birds/deer and farmers maybe shoot a fox terrorizing sheep or chickens. Police come and check at intervals, the check the safe, home alarm. Not 100% sure but might also check w GP Dr for mental health which easier as it’s nationalized health system.
Most police no guns. If they are responding to an incident at a house which they know has a gun - yes, they know because the gun license is logged in the system, they might call armed officers to the house.
Criminals still have guns and shoot people on occasion.
If you shoot an intruder who had not directly threatened you, you get prosecuted for sure.
Regarding this case. Can see police/fbi might not have had enough evidence to arrest a 13 y.o. For a (terror) threat. Can imagine can’t tell an American man (the dad) that he can’t have his guns, can’t require him to lock it away … it’s the”guns not the problem” problem & it’s my constitutional right blah blah.
Can imagine the dad saying gun is secure is that he keeps it out of reach atop the fridge.
America does seem insane as level of gun ownership, gun crime and level of gun recklessness among non-criminals increases every year despite the obvious problem. Requiring gun safes be used in home with minors with regular checks might be a good idea.
Overall America too far gone ….
BBM I thought the same thing but when I went to the original source, this photo was actually the shooter from Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS.Wow, he looks very different than in the other two pictures that have been published in MSM. The one from 2022 and the one where he is slim, has brown hair and glasses.
This must be the accurate one since it’s a mug shot.
IMO