GA-Winder-Massive police presence at Apalachee High School.

[vls12345]

He may have used a VPN

That's what I was thinking too. Imo.

 

[realanastasia]

The Washington Post has an article stating that the 14 year old shooter "begged for help" for his mental health issues, according to his aunt.

Will this be similar to the Ethan Crumbley case, where cries for help were unheeded by the family?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/05/suspected-shooter-georgia-school-shooting-apalachee-high/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3eee88f%2F66d9e099be87305a01e4732d%2F596cbfca9bbc0f208664aefd%2F8%2F55%2F66d9e099be87305a01e4732d

edited to add link

"At the time of Jackson County’s investigation, the teen’s father told officers that he and his wife had split up after their family was evicted from their home a few months earlier. The father said he and his son had moved and that, while his son had experienced “some problems” at the middle school he previously attended, things had “gotten a lot better” now that he was attending a new school."

 

[Hausos]

Discord is just a chat platform, not dissimilar from Websleuths. I don’t think it really has any anonymity functions aside from just not using your real name. If IP addresses are bouncing around, it’s because of something the user/users are doing, not Discord itself.

JMO

Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.

I referenced “private servers” in which a lot of kids and young adults participate a while back that have been very problematic especially with young boys and young adult men and now there’s news out that the killer used Discord. Why am I not surprised?

A lot of boys use discord, mostly to game and chat with their friends… but you’ll also uncover extremely vile servers that share racist rhetoric, calls for genocide, calls for violence, & more. The kicker is the kids look peachy clean on surface, straight As, good track record, the family’s beloved boy who could do no wrong, etc, then you discover their online activity and it’s shocking.

 

[georgiajean]

Thanks for your detailed explanation.
There was a prank threat where I live, not in the US, iirc for the whole state, pop. approx 11 million. idk how many schools but an awful lot. iirc schools were allowed to decide for themselves whether to stay open that day or not. So I was thinking of that kind of prank rather than lockdown within a particular school due to a threat already showing itself. I don't know enough about the situation in general in the US, so I will just read along and keep my possibly wrong ideas to myself.

It is interesting to hear about outside the US because this country is such an outlier with the easy access to weapons and the variable security of school buildings. Thank you for sharing

 

[Breezie]

Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured

The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

When police searched the teen's Georgia home following the bloodbath, they reportedly found clues the teenager was 'obsessed' with mass shootings - specifically the Parkland massacre in 2018, which left 17 people dead.

 

[Breezie]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/05/suspected-shooter-georgia-school-shooting-apalachee-high/

The 14-year-old arrested after a mass killing at Georgia’s Apalachee High School had been “begging for months” for mental health help before he allegedly carried out a deadly attack Wednesday, according to an aunt of the shooting suspect.

He “was begging for help from everybody around him,” Annie Brown, the aunt, told The Washington Post. “The adults around him failed him.”

 

[m00c0w]

Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.

I referenced “private servers” in which a lot of kids and young adults participate a while back that have been very problematic especially with young boys and young adult men and now there’s news out that the killer used Discord. Why am I not surprised?

A lot of boys use discord, mostly to game and chat with their friends… but you’ll also uncover extremely vile servers that share racist rhetoric, calls for genocide, calls for violence, & more. The kicker is the kids look peachy clean on surface, straight As, good track record, the family’s beloved boy who could do no wrong, etc, then you discover their online activity and it’s shocking.

I said it’s “not dissimilar”, not that they’re the same. You can host private threads on here, too, with little oversight. There are all sorts of communities on Discord, and the relevant point being discussed was regarding IP addresses and anonymity. Discord complies with legal demands, messages aren’t encrypted, user logs are maintained as well as IP addresses. The purpose is not an anonymous chat service - that is something more like Telegram.

You can also find many of the things you list on most social media platforms. Discord is not special.

All my opinion.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831733399859413138

 

[GoBuckeyes]

When will this end.

How can somebody at 14 years of age have so much hatred stored up in them.

My heart goes out to the four deceased and I send my thoughts to the 9 rushed to hospital - I feel horrendously for the parents anxiously waiting outside the school for their child to come out knowing that two children won’t return.

Also to the Media please act with class and in the interest of the children - sticking a camera and a microphone in front of a student who has just been in an absolutely terrifying incident is disgrace - The poor student is in complete shock.

Ironically, the comments I've read from the students they have interviewed have been imbued with grace and class. moo

 

[GoBuckeyes]

In UK here, and American.
Here, no handguns since an incident in 1996 after a school shooting - Dunblane Massacre.
Hunting / shot guns allowed (no AR types as one doesn’t shoot pheasant or deer with war weapons) - must have license and police check, must be locked in gun cabinet and house must be secure with alarm and need references from specific list of professions. Guns are not for protection, they are for sport shooting birds/deer and farmers maybe shoot a fox terrorizing sheep or chickens. Police come and check at intervals, the check the safe, home alarm. Not 100% sure but might also check w GP Dr for mental health which easier as it’s nationalized health system.
Most police no guns. If they are responding to an incident at a house which they know has a gun - yes, they know because the gun license is logged in the system, they might call armed officers to the house.
Criminals still have guns and shoot people on occasion.
If you shoot an intruder who had not directly threatened you, you get prosecuted for sure.

Regarding this case. Can see police/fbi might not have had enough evidence to arrest a 13 y.o. For a (terror) threat. Can imagine can’t tell an American man (the dad) that he can’t have his guns, can’t require him to lock it away … it’s the”guns not the problem” problem & it’s my constitutional right blah blah.
Can imagine the dad saying gun is secure is that he keeps it out of reach atop the fridge.

America does seem insane as level of gun ownership, gun crime and level of gun recklessness among non-criminals increases every year despite the obvious problem. Requiring gun safes be used in home with minors with regular checks might be a good idea.
Overall America too far gone ….

Gun crime falls under criminality, not non-criminals.

Also, the AR can fall under the category of hunting rifle. I would not personally use it for hunting, but I do know of others who use it to dispatch wild pigs and to hunt deer.

You may think America is too far gone, and you have the right to that opinion. There's still nowhere on earth I'd rather live than right here in the good old USA, where, yes, I can keep my guns and my freedom of speech, and every other right I'm afforded under the U.S. Constitution.

My thoughts are with the families of the victims, the wounded and their families, and the survivors.

 

[Leilei]

Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured

The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

When police searched the teen's Georgia home following the bloodbath, they reportedly found clues the teenager was 'obsessed' with mass shootings - specifically the Parkland massacre in 2018, which left 17 people dead.

Good lord, he was 8 when Parkland happened :/

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831788639917056143

 

[MAHBOOBOO]

From this article:

"In May 2023, officers from Jackson County questioned both Gray and his father about a Discord channel believed to be linked to the then-13-year-old which allegedly made threats about a school shooting.

The Discord account had a user name written in Russian, and the translation of the letters spelled out the name Lanza, referencing Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary school tragedy, officers said.

Gray denied he was the author of the threats, telling police he'd shut down his Discord after being repeatedly hacked. He expressed concerns that someone would make those accusations about him.

According to the NYT, Gray's father Colin told investigators at the time that his son 'knows the seriousness of weapons and what they can do, and how to use them and not use them.'

Colin reportedly assured officers that he would be 'mad as hell' if he learned the allegations about his son making threats were true, and that 'all the guns [would] go away.'"

Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured

The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Chimera]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831788639917056143

Thanks !
Was just going to post but you beat me to it.

Here's one more link :

Colt Gray: What we know about 14-year-old Apalachee High School shooting suspect

The sheriff says Colt Gray surrendered moments after being approached by a school resource officer.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[Cryptic]

Also, the AR can fall under the category of hunting rifle.

I would say that the caliber can be used for hunting. The actual design of the weapon is not that important.

 

[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,
Please keep the discussion on the case at hand. Whether a state allows teachers to carry guns or gun laws in other states have nothing to do with this case. Rather than remove a ton of these posts I am respectfully asking you all stay on topic. I don't want to have to close this thread.
Thank you,
Tricia

 

[georgiajean]

In UK here, and American.
Here, no handguns since an incident in 1996 after a school shooting - Dunblane Massacre.
Hunting / shot guns allowed (no AR types as one doesn’t shoot pheasant or deer with war weapons) - must have license and police check, must be locked in gun cabinet and house must be secure with alarm and need references from specific list of professions. Guns are not for protection, they are for sport shooting birds/deer and farmers maybe shoot a fox terrorizing sheep or chickens. Police come and check at intervals, the check the safe, home alarm. Not 100% sure but might also check w GP Dr for mental health which easier as it’s nationalized health system.
Most police no guns. If they are responding to an incident at a house which they know has a gun - yes, they know because the gun license is logged in the system, they might call armed officers to the house.
Criminals still have guns and shoot people on occasion.
If you shoot an intruder who had not directly threatened you, you get prosecuted for sure.

Regarding this case. Can see police/fbi might not have had enough evidence to arrest a 13 y.o. For a (terror) threat. Can imagine can’t tell an American man (the dad) that he can’t have his guns, can’t require him to lock it away … it’s the”guns not the problem” problem & it’s my constitutional right blah blah.
Can imagine the dad saying gun is secure is that he keeps it out of reach atop the fridge.

America does seem insane as level of gun ownership, gun crime and level of gun recklessness among non-criminals increases every year despite the obvious problem. Requiring gun safes be used in home with minors with regular checks might be a good idea.
Overall America too far gone ….

It is refreshing to read about sane gun policy, especially the "guns are not for protection.". Police don't routinely carry guns? They aren't decked out in military gear like they are going to war with the public? I agree, the USA has an insane level of gun ownership and the accompanying violence, crime, and domestic disputes leading to death. Yes, people can still kill with a variety of weapons. A gun is different, partly because it separates the killer from the killed. Pull a trigger? Much easier, less thought and effort that strangling/stabbing someone. I hope this generation of students who has grown up under the constant real threat of a school shooting will make real change as they grow up.

 

[Arkay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831788639917056143

Wow, he looks very different than in the other two pictures that have been published in MSM. The one from 2022 and the one where he is slim, has brown hair and glasses.

This must be the accurate one since it’s a mug shot.

IMO

 

[georgiajean]

Wow, he looks very different than in the other two pictures that have been published in MSM. The one from 2022 and the one where he is slim, has brown hair and glasses.

This must be the accurate one since it’s a mug shot.

IMO

BBM I thought the same thing but when I went to the original source, this photo was actually the shooter from Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS.

Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured

The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[imstilla.grandma]