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He may have used a VPN
That's what I was thinking too. Imo.
He may have used a VPN
"At the time of Jackson County’s investigation, the teen’s father told officers that he and his wife had split up after their family was evicted from their home a few months earlier. The father said he and his son had moved and that, while his son had experienced “some problems” at the middle school he previously attended, things had “gotten a lot better” now that he was attending a new school."The Washington Post has an article stating that the 14 year old shooter "begged for help" for his mental health issues, according to his aunt.
Will this be similar to the Ethan Crumbley case, where cries for help were unheeded by the family?
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Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.Discord is just a chat platform, not dissimilar from Websleuths. I don’t think it really has any anonymity functions aside from just not using your real name. If IP addresses are bouncing around, it’s because of something the user/users are doing, not Discord itself.
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It is interesting to hear about outside the US because this country is such an outlier with the easy access to weapons and the variable security of school buildings. Thank you for sharingThanks for your detailed explanation.
There was a prank threat where I live, not in the US, iirc for the whole state, pop. approx 11 million. idk how many schools but an awful lot. iirc schools were allowed to decide for themselves whether to stay open that day or not. So I was thinking of that kind of prank rather than lockdown within a particular school due to a threat already showing itself. I don't know enough about the situation in general in the US, so I will just read along and keep my possibly wrong ideas to myself.
From the same article:There are thirty-three states on those lists. Thank you Maryland.
I think this is a great idea for those who have training with a weapon and who would want to be a responsible adult to carry. I see it similar to a SRO who would be on duty at the school. In this case it's been reported that it was the SRO who encountered this shooter and removed the threat. High schools are typically large and I think it's impossible for an SRO to be in the exact area needed when something like this happens. I do think having the SRO and possibly a few teachers or other staff that are highly trained and willing to also carry and be there if/when something like this occurs.States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns with Permission from School Authority
- Alaska
- Arizona (when used in a program approved by the school)
- Connecticut
- Delaware (need concealed carry permit)
- Georgia
- Idaho
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kansas
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Massachusetts
- Michigan
- Minnesota
- Missouri
- Montana
- Nevada
- New Jersey
- Ohio
- Oregon (need concealed carry license)
- Pennsylvania (schools can apply to allow certain security personnel to carry firearms)
- South Carolina
- Texas (if board-approved as part of a Guardian Program or if the person is a designated school marshal)
- Utah (need a concealed carry permit)
- Vermont
States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns in Certain Circumstances and/or with Permits/Required Training
- Arkansas (prohibits teachers in public schools from carrying guns but allows exemptions for private schools)
- Colorado
- Florida (as part of the School Guardian Program)
- Mississippi (only if part of the Guardian Program)
- Oklahoma (only private schools)
- South Dakota (if the person is a school sentinel)
- Tennessee
- Wyoming (need valid concealed carry permit)
States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns with No Restrictions
- New Hampshire (only students are prohibited)
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Which States Let Teachers Carry Guns in School?
Which states let teachers carry guns in school? Just last month, Tennessee and Iowa joined the growing list.www.campussafetymagazine.com
Well said. And a hug!I don't think children should be FORCED to do anything that doesn't interest them and isn't necessary. Guided or recommended? Why not? There are also places where children can engage in teamwork that doesn't involve sports; robotics is a common one nowadays.
Don't forget that there are a not-insignificant number of children for whom "socialization" is just another way of increasing the number of other kids who won't like them. Ask me how I know about this.
Exactly, my oldest two really struggled with sports but are absolutely thriving in band and orchestra. I think it’s more belonging to something bigger than oneselfIMO, ‘forcing’ sounds very harsh. ‘Encouraged’, fine… Forcing kids who aren’t athletic would open a whole new can of worms- such as anxiety, feelings of being a failure, etc. My middle school self would not have handled that well at all, Phys Ed class was quite enough!
I said it’s “not dissimilar”, not that they’re the same. You can host private threads on here, too, with little oversight. There are all sorts of communities on Discord, and the relevant point being discussed was regarding IP addresses and anonymity. Discord complies with legal demands, messages aren’t encrypted, user logs are maintained as well as IP addresses. The purpose is not an anonymous chat service - that is something more like Telegram.Discord is not like Websleuths at all… people can host private chat servers and you can delete messages & they will be erased forever. A lot of young child killers, harassment and suicide, pedophiles, illicit activity, etc have been linked to Discord. Recently there was a kid who said he’ll murder his mother and post the pics on his community’s server to prove it… he did and most of the kids thought it was so funny and a joke. Thankfully one of the kids reported what he saw in the server. The reality is if the kid never shared what he saw in that server, the boy may have gotten away with it.
I referenced “private servers” in which a lot of kids and young adults participate a while back that have been very problematic especially with young boys and young adult men and now there’s news out that the killer used Discord. Why am I not surprised?
A lot of boys use discord, mostly to game and chat with their friends… but you’ll also uncover extremely vile servers that share racist rhetoric, calls for genocide, calls for violence, & more. The kicker is the kids look peachy clean on surface, straight As, good track record, the family’s beloved boy who could do no wrong, etc, then you discover their online activity and it’s shocking.
I object to forcing kids to do anything. Not all kids even like sports. Some kids aren’t good at sports.Regardless of the language, it is forcing. No kid wants to play a sport they're bad at. And they're ALL bad at a sport until they've played it for a couple years. They don't start to like the sport until they're good at it. So, if you don't force them to start playing and stick with it for a couple years, it's likely they'll never play at all, or they'll give up after the first year.
Thank the Lord my parents forced 4 year old me to go play T-ball, even if it sucked and picking flowers and my nose was way more interesting.
Ironically, the comments I've read from the students they have interviewed have been imbued with grace and class. mooWhen will this end.
How can somebody at 14 years of age have so much hatred stored up in them.
My heart goes out to the four deceased and I send my thoughts to the 9 rushed to hospital - I feel horrendously for the parents anxiously waiting outside the school for their child to come out knowing that two children won’t return.
Also to the Media please act with class and in the interest of the children - sticking a camera and a microphone in front of a student who has just been in an absolutely terrifying incident is disgrace - The poor student is in complete shock.
Gun crime falls under criminality, not non-criminals.In UK here, and American.
Here, no handguns since an incident in 1996 after a school shooting - Dunblane Massacre.
Hunting / shot guns allowed (no AR types as one doesn’t shoot pheasant or deer with war weapons) - must have license and police check, must be locked in gun cabinet and house must be secure with alarm and need references from specific list of professions. Guns are not for protection, they are for sport shooting birds/deer and farmers maybe shoot a fox terrorizing sheep or chickens. Police come and check at intervals, the check the safe, home alarm. Not 100% sure but might also check w GP Dr for mental health which easier as it’s nationalized health system.
Most police no guns. If they are responding to an incident at a house which they know has a gun - yes, they know because the gun license is logged in the system, they might call armed officers to the house.
Criminals still have guns and shoot people on occasion.
If you shoot an intruder who had not directly threatened you, you get prosecuted for sure.
Regarding this case. Can see police/fbi might not have had enough evidence to arrest a 13 y.o. For a (terror) threat. Can imagine can’t tell an American man (the dad) that he can’t have his guns, can’t require him to lock it away … it’s the”guns not the problem” problem & it’s my constitutional right blah blah.
Can imagine the dad saying gun is secure is that he keeps it out of reach atop the fridge.
America does seem insane as level of gun ownership, gun crime and level of gun recklessness among non-criminals increases every year despite the obvious problem. Requiring gun safes be used in home with minors with regular checks might be a good idea.
Overall America too far gone ….
Good lord, he was 8 when Parkland happened :/![]()
Georgia school shooter Colt Gray pictured
The Apalachee High School shooter who killed two students and two teachers has been pictured by officials for the first time.www.dailymail.co.uk
When police searched the teen's Georgia home following the bloodbath, they reportedly found clues the teenager was 'obsessed' with mass shootings - specifically the Parkland massacre in 2018, which left 17 people dead.
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States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns with Permission from School Authority
- Alaska
- Arizona (when used in a program approved by the school)
- Connecticut
- Delaware (need concealed carry permit)
- Georgia
- Idaho
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kansas
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Massachusetts
- Michigan
- Minnesota
- Missouri
- Montana
- Nevada
- New Jersey
- Ohio
- Oregon (need concealed carry license)
- Pennsylvania (schools can apply to allow certain security personnel to carry firearms)
- South Carolina
- Texas (if board-approved as part of a Guardian Program or if the person is a designated school marshal)
- Utah (need a concealed carry permit)
- Vermont
States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns in Certain Circumstances and/or with Permits/Required Training
- Arkansas (prohibits teachers in public schools from carrying guns but allows exemptions for private schools)
- Colorado
- Florida (as part of the School Guardian Program)
- Mississippi (only if part of the Guardian Program)
- Oklahoma (only private schools)
- South Dakota (if the person is a school sentinel)
- Tennessee
- Wyoming (need valid concealed carry permit)
States Where Teachers Can Carry Guns with No Restrictions
- New Hampshire (only students are prohibited)
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Which States Let Teachers Carry Guns in School?
Which states let teachers carry guns in school? Just last month, Tennessee and Iowa joined the growing list.www.campussafetymagazine.com
Thanks !