I was asking about the apartment, and Colomom was nice enough to post an ad for it, before it was sold to the current owners (I think). It said one room had twin beds, and the other had a double bed. Just wondering how that worked with the five McCanns. I guess the new owner could have added beds...
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Texana
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The McCanns could have easily felt that the twin beds would work fine for the children, and the adults could sleep in the double bed. Kinda scrunchy for me, but my sister and her husband--much larger people than Mr. Texana and I--made do for many years with a double bed. And the McCanns might have thought as well, that all the children would sleep happily in a double bed, and then the adults would take the twins.
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Boy are you ever right about that. When my children were small, it was almost impossible to let them sleep together. They either played and talked for what seemed hours or one woke the other up whenever she turned over. 3 sleeping in one bed seems almost impossible imo.
Did the McCann's admit that they ate off site, several blocks away?
Did they leave the children alone while they dined several blocks away?
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Ok, if this has be covered I am so sorry. But if some perv broke into the apartment to kidnapp Maddie. Who was lying in the middle of her twin siblings, don't you think he would have thought "Wow I hit the jackpot, there are 3 of them" The twins could have easily been carried out (since they didn't even wake up with all the noise) together and he could have come back for Maddie. Or just taken Maddie and her sister?
It's like breaking into a house to steel all the diamonds, and leaving the tons of cash you found in the same dresser.
Just an idea, take it for what it is worth.
Shauna
It's like breaking into a house to steel all the diamonds, and leaving the tons of cash you found in the same dresser.
Just an idea, take it for what it is worth.
Shauna
Excellent question and one that was asked here when Maddie first went missing. I honestly don't get why she'd be taken instead of the twins.....unless someone watched her and decided that they wanted to kidnap the little 3 yr old for whatever reason.
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Is this true? I thought I had read that the twins were in a CRIB.
Now I'm even more perplexed about leaving the kids alone. Just so not safe even if they stayed in the apartment. 2 year olds are into EVERYTHING. Especially if the aren't supposed to be.
And secondly how would a kidnapper remove madilyn from in between the twins without waking them? How were the twins able to sleep through people tossing about pillows and checking under the bed if they were on a bed together?
Someone posted this link in the media section of this forum.
Here is another strange twilightzone twist to this case:
". . . The body of a missing five-year-old girl whose abduction was linked by police to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been discovered in a forest in Switzerland. . ."
". . . It was uncovered by a passer-by between Oberbren and Niederwil on Saturday. It had apparently been dug up by wild animals. Von Aesch is thought to have shot a man who challenged him shortly after he buried the body, then turned the gun on himself. Police later discovered he had been on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared in May. . ."
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19495/Body-of-girl-5-found
Note: I added the bolding in the quote.
Here is another strange twilightzone twist to this case:
". . . The body of a missing five-year-old girl whose abduction was linked by police to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been discovered in a forest in Switzerland. . ."
". . . It was uncovered by a passer-by between Oberbren and Niederwil on Saturday. It had apparently been dug up by wild animals. Von Aesch is thought to have shot a man who challenged him shortly after he buried the body, then turned the gun on himself. Police later discovered he had been on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared in May. . ."
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19495/Body-of-girl-5-found
Note: I added the bolding in the quote.
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That's enough to give me goose bumps. Thanks for the link.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19511/Madeleine-Her-mother-is-innocent
Madeliene: Her mother is innocent
Article claims that all the DNA evidence in the rental car, including the hair, came from transferring Madeleine's belongings from the apartment to the villa. I wonder how that explains the sedatives?
Madeliene: Her mother is innocent
Article claims that all the DNA evidence in the rental car, including the hair, came from transferring Madeleine's belongings from the apartment to the villa. I wonder how that explains the sedatives?
The vehicle had also been used by a number of people, including several family members, before it was examined.
Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said up to 30 people are believed to have had access to the Renault in the 10 weeks after the car was hired.
Commenting on reports that Madeleine's bodily fluids had been found in the car, he said it was quite possible one of the twins might have urinated in the car.===============================SNIPPET
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1284729,00.html
DNA Evidence Can be Explained
Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said up to 30 people are believed to have had access to the Renault in the 10 weeks after the car was hired.
Commenting on reports that Madeleine's bodily fluids had been found in the car, he said it was quite possible one of the twins might have urinated in the car.===============================SNIPPET
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1284729,00.html
DNA Evidence Can be Explained
Jeana (DP)
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DNA evidence can be explained, possibly, by transferrence. However, CADAVER dogs alerted to that car, so the DNA came from a dead person, not a live person. How can that be explained?
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I have raised three babies. A baby could urinate in the car but the likelihood is no. They have on diapers, or training pants, plus their outer clothes, so a vehicle saturated with a babies urine my common sense tells me no, this hasn't happened in that car.
I'm not buying this one. No way. They didn't even have the children that much, transfering them from apartment to day care, picking them up from day care to apartment. I've never seen video of the children in just diapers, training pants and no outer wear while with the mcanns the very few times I've seen them videoed. I can't buy the urinating in the car report. I say it can happen, but this one I reject.
ThoughtFox
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Unless the Twins urinated in the car trunk, I don't think it is totally explained yet.
I think it hasn't been explained at all - nor the scent of a cadaver on Cuddle Cat, which Kate herself tried to explain away as being from when she took the cat to work with her.Jeana DP said:
And those articles about explaining the DNA do not mention the hair, which was rumored to be all over the trunk.
So really, nothing is explained. I'm sure the police knew the Twins had been in that car and ruled them out as an explanation.
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Jeana:
GREAT point! I wonder if a Judge will take the cadaver dogs seriously? I read that the Mc Canns got in touch with the lawyers of a guy who was accused of murdering his wife but he was not charged because there was not enough evidence but it seems the cadaver dogs smelled something on his backyard and a Judge said the cadaver dogs were unreliable and gave a percentage of how many times they are usually "right" and how many times they are "wrong". Wonder how will be taken in this case?
GREAT point! I wonder if a Judge will take the cadaver dogs seriously? I read that the Mc Canns got in touch with the lawyers of a guy who was accused of murdering his wife but he was not charged because there was not enough evidence but it seems the cadaver dogs smelled something on his backyard and a Judge said the cadaver dogs were unreliable and gave a percentage of how many times they are usually "right" and how many times they are "wrong". Wonder how will be taken in this case?
Juliana
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From Colomom's link:
"Father Pacheco met the McCanns the day after Madeleine vanished on May 3.
GP Kate and her heart surgeon husband Gerry, both, 39, asked to see a priest that night as pals, fellow holidaymakers and resort staff launched a desperate hunt for the four-year-old.
But the meeting did not take place until the next day. The couple were so devastated Father Pacheco took
the unusual step of giving them the keys to the chapel so they could pray at any hour.
But since the finger of suspicion was pointed at the McCanns their relationship with the priest changed, according to locals.
They said he had appeared “anguished”. A church source said: “He is a marvellous man who has devoted his life to God. But everything that has happened has shaken him.”
I bolded the sentence I don't understand. Whose relationship with the priest has changed? The McCanns or the parishioners?
I read it to be the McCanns.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2422967.ece
Madeleine McCann: the key questions
Lots of questions answered....in a balanced sort of way...IMHO.
Madeleine McCann: the key questions
Lots of questions answered....in a balanced sort of way...IMHO.
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