In forty years of nursing, I have never seen an experienced person mistake a living person for a dead person If they look dead, they are.
I think that there may be misunderstanding because the paramedics, IIRC, testified that (paraphrasing, "in layman's terms, he was dead" or something similar). That bothered me at the time, because I felt that it might be:
1) possibly factually inaccurate (was GF in respiratory arrest, cardiac arrest, brain dead, but possibly capable of being revived?)
2) outside the scope and expertise of the paramedics to state that, given the entirety of the situation.
It seems that some private EMS providers, localities etc., do allow paramedics (with or without a physician consultation), in certain circumstances where the person has been without a pulse for X amount of time, or there is rigor mortis, etc.) IMO
3) an issue in the trial, because it muddied the waters of how and when Mr Floyd ACTUALLY died, IMO.
I always say that "the devil is in the details" and I believe that it would have been much better if the paramedics had used correct medical terminology, and then explained it if needed.
However, IMO, it was clear that beginning with the FF/EMT, and continuing through the paramedics, to the MDs, toxicologists and other experts, that those with more education seemed to have a much fuller understanding of the subject matter, and were able to explain it much better. All MOO
Dr Tobin's medical testimony was, IMHO, the most detailed, and compelling so far. He obviously REALLY knows his subject matter, and explained it incredibly well.
My only hesitation with immediately believing his CONCLUSION, is that he wasn't aware of some of the other factors, he is a specialist in one area of the body, and *MAYBE* that overshadows his evaluation of other issues (IMO). I also want to hear all of the evidence, before I make a final decision.
