George's Possible "Suicide" Letter

[JustJax]

George most likely wrote the note KNOWING it would be published. Otherwise why would he make references to Casey and the veiled references to her friends?

He wrote it to be READ, imo. We don't know to whom it was addressed but as I said, considering how everything else in this case has been revealed, and George was well aware of that, he knew that his letter would be revealed to the public.

(mybold and italic)

The note may be released because of the references. JMO But may have alot redacted from it...who knows.

 

[RR0004]

Suicide might be a crime, but it is also a deeply personal expression of heart-wrenching pain. When it has come to the public's attention that someone is feeling such pain, does the public really have a right to know all the gory details of such pain? I think not. We already know more about GA's pain then we have a right too.

Not everything is kept private. We have court documents, ping maps, alleged perps, etc. which gives us plenty to sleuth from. What sleuthing will we do from a very personal suicide note when it is not written by the suspected perp and contains no references to the crime? And does the little we might be able to glean from it really override the person's need for privacy, compassion and understanding? Why would our morbid curiosity be of higher priority than GA's mental health and well-being?

Salem

amen...and thanks for saying what I was thinking

 

[RR0004]

Suicide is a crime?? I've never heard of this?

yup..it's true

 

[Salem]

My sentiments exactly! Also, as of todays date, only 2 states list suicide as a crime. Attempted suicide laws differ from each jurisdiction of every other state. While I don't condone every single action the A family has done in protecting the jailed perp, I certainly can try to understand the stress GA must be under. Without compassion, how can we love? I have no idea if this was a ploy or not, but that's beside the point. Right now he's in a hospital being evaluated, so I tend to lean towards making him healthy and praying for his recovery. What kind of person would I be if I kicked him while he was down? If it ever turns out that it was indeed a ploy (which I personally believe it isn't), then I can at least live with myself knowing I didn't steer away from my own morality. Excellent post Salem!

Thanks Jersy Girl and excellent response! My bold.

And as to the debate that this attempt was for sympathy, attention, or selfish - it is probably a combination of all of the above. It is obvious the man is in pain and he was doing what he NEEDED to do in order to get what he NEEDED. Apparently - if this was selfish, then he was tired of being the rock and needed someone to be his rock or maybe he was just tired of being the "yes" man and needed to say "no". All you have to do is read the blogs and messages boards to understand he certainly could use some sympathy. His heart is hurt and he was getting very little attention and he NEEDED some. The reasons why GA did this are probably very complex on many different levels but one thing is certain - he NEEDED to be heard. So now he has people listening, at least a little - Doctors, attorneys and hopefully his wife.

I wish him peace and healing and compassion from the public masses at large.

Salem

 

[amysmom]

Having found this information, it is my understanding that George may have a viable lawsuit if his "suicidal" letter and texts are released to the public. I think that since those same texts and the letter were used to admit him to be evaluated, then he is covered under the Patient Privacy Law. Something to think about...If they didn't release what types of meds he was taking, then why would they be able to release the note & texts that were used to get him in the hospital? Wouldn't that then become part of his patient file? Jeb Bush already amended the Sunshine Law once. Is it time for a reevaluation? While I do agree with public records being available to solve crimes (etc), where and when do we draw the line? Jeb Bush already amended the Sunshine Law once. Is it time for a reevaluation? While I do agree with public records being available to solve crimes (etc), where and when do we draw the line?[/QUOTE]

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I'm truly surprised his own atty revealed as much as he did about the situation because if anyone should know about the 'Patient Privacy Law' it would be him..But it was the LE official (?) who found & took him to the hosp that shocked me by spilling major details about the letter/texts to every media outlet on the planet..Beyond the 'Patient Privacy Law' it's something we, the public, did NOT have a need to know.

 

[scrabble]

Poor George and Cindy, how much more can these folks endure? God be with them.

 

[cajun]

Attempting suicide is a crime. As such the documents become public record. That's how it works in my county any way.

And if everything was kept private, then why is there even a WS to begin with? Isn't that why we're all here? To speculate and discuss every aspect of a crime.

That's not what the sheriff said yesterday, he said it wasn't a crime. I don't think we have any business knowing what was in those private texts and his letter. He is not on trial and I don't think these need to ever see the light of day.

 

[doogiesgirl]

i think i know what you're asking doogiesgirl, but you may not get many replies due to tricia's new post. i've no idea what went down here yesterday but it was enough to upset the mods and it may have been discussions on what you're hinting at.
as i said though i have no idea what the warning is about - i was in london all day and night yesterday/today and nowhere near a computer. maybe you could message a few friends and see if they share your, err, thoughts

btw if anyone knows what we're not supposed to do could you drop me a line ... please?

Well, you know more than me coz I don't have any idea what happened yesterday, or that there was a warning about something. Ut oh, I hope I didn't just step in some dodo! I am keeping my trap shut. Wonder if I'm allowed to just delete my post altogether?

 

[Pattymarie]

yup..it's true

Yes, and I even think that some insurances will not pay life insurance in cases of suicide.
Also, suicide is considered a sin in most religions.

 

[Salome]

Attempting suicide is a crime. As such the documents become public record. That's how it works in my county any way.

And if everything was kept private, then why is there even a WS to begin with? Isn't that why we're all here? To speculate and discuss every aspect of a crime.

In addition to wikipedia, here's another source about no US state holding suicide to be a crime.

http://www.a1b2c3.com/suilodge/facenc1.htm

Even if it is a crime, there is no way that committing a crime means you lose all your rights and all your privacy. The accused and the convicted have rights, even if the convicted have some rights removed for a certain amount of time.

My personal opinion is it's for us to discuss if it pertains to the case -- the case that is about who killed Caylee, how, and when, and how the justice system deals with it. If there were charges against the A's for anything related to Caylee's murder, then we should obviously be discussing whatever is related to that (there's not yet). If GA's letter contained a confession or new information related to the case, then we should discuss it. If it just contained his thoughts and feelings about his family and his loss, I don't see how it sheds any light on the prosecution of Casey or justice for Caylee, which is my main goal for being involved in WS on this case.

It looks like this is just one where we'll have two separate views and each side will have to respect the other's right to hold that view. I won't be taking part in any discussion of the contents of the note, though, unless it's revealed that it is relevant to the case.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I wonder, I know it is said he was taken in through the "Baker Act". But, could it be possible that he just went with the police officer at his own will? Maybe George is just so overwhelmed and exhausted over the loss of Caylee and all that is happing in his life. Just because the police officer took him to the hospital doesn't mean he was committed by the "Baker Act". And why would they release that information? Is that not breaking HIPA Rules?

 

[sumbunny]

Did something in this latest doc dump put him over the edge? I would assume that they get some details along with the rest of us. I think the whole heart-shaped sticker thing might have been a trigger for me, if I was in those shoes.

Not that I ever would, but you know.

I tend to agree. I think that clearly showed george that casey had something to do with the demise of his beloved caylee.

Perhaps casey's true colors are becoming more clear, the longer they are away from her manipulative ways.

The casey kool-aid has dried up. Reality hurts.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

According to BC, they do not read the documents. He goes through them instead.

 

[sumbunny]

I would think BC would tell the A's about the duct tape and heart sticker.

Possibly an AHA moment for george?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I wonder, I know it is said he was taken in through the "Baker Act". But, could it be possible that he just went with the police officer at his own will? Maybe George is just so overwhelmed and exhausted over the loss of Caylee and all that is happing in his life. Just because the police officer took him to the hospital doesn't mean he was committed by the "Baker Act". And why would they release that information? Is that not breaking HIPA Rules?

I would think if he did go on his own free will, they probably could not release the information. So this would indicate they did place him under the Baker Act making it a legal issue which then is public. (I am just guessing, but it sounds good. LOL)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I would think BC would tell the A's about the duct tape and heart sticker.

Possibly an AHA moment for george?

They knew this information from the search warrant when they were served.

 

[Princess Debbie]

I just want to say that I believe there is way more to this. I hesitate going into it, but something isnt right with the whole thing.

 

[websurfer]

Just sayin that I am glad / was glad when they started
not being in the news everyday.

:boohoo:

 

[Pink Panther]

I wonder, I know it is said he was taken in through the "Baker Act". But, could it be possible that he just went with the police officer at his own will? Maybe George is just so overwhelmed and exhausted over the loss of Caylee and all that is happing in his life. Just because the police officer took him to the hospital doesn't mean he was committed by the "Baker Act". And why would they release that information? Is that not breaking HIPA Rules?

Wasn't it his attorney, BC, who stated this???

 

[wallflower67]

The freedom was taken away when he committed the crime of attempting suicide. Not to mention all the things he has done and said to LE about Caylee's disappearance and murder.

When you commit a crime your freedoms are taken away. That is the justice system in this great country.

I'm not picking on your post...just needed something along these lines to respond to.

Did he actually attempt? I don't believe he was trying to be manipulative, and voicing that you no longer wish to live is not a crime...otherwise no one could ever get mental health help for fear of being charged.

If he has not been charged, I don't see why any of his notes and texts should be public record.