Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #2

[mrjitty]

FWIW the Mail says the other lawyers are specialists so perhaps one of them is the second on the trial and the others are more defence experts

 

[SuperdadV8]

Trial postponed, due to an unsuitable lay judge.

Fair enough, people like her doesn't fit sitting at the judges bench!

 

[RichardKimble]

The question of funding came up when Jon Clarke interviewed HCW. Jon wrote about it in his book. HCW told Jon about how (in part) FF was being funded, but HCW asked Jon not to write about it.

If this is the case I am sure at some point the public will have more info. If it’s come from where I suspect it may have, then it’ll add to the inevitable negative scrutiny attached to some elements of the MM case as a whole. Jmo

The only reason JC the journalist is interested is because he thinks there a story to be had.

 

[RichardKimble]

Trial postponed, due to an unsuitable lay judge.

Fair enough, people like her doesn't fit sitting at the judges bench!

Is it a defence challenge?

 

[frank-cole]

Trial postponed, due to an unsuitable lay judge.

Fair enough, people like her doesn't fit sitting at the judges bench!

Agree. FF will likely play technicalities the whole way through. The only part I think he’ll really struggle with is fighting the evidence.

 

[Trivento]

Is it a defence challenge?

Christian B: Madeleine McCann suspect in court on unrelated charges - as his lawyer gets judge thrown out

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is appearing in a German court, where he is accused of unrelated sex offences.

news.sky.com

 

[frank-cole]

The only reason JC the journalist is interested is because he thinks there a story to be had.

I think that’s the whole nature of journalism as a profession.
That doesn’t mean HCW didn’t mention that when he was interviewed by JC.

 

[RichardKimble]

I think that’s the whole nature of journalism as a profession.
That doesn’t mean HCW didn’t mention that when he was interviewed by HCW.

HCW replied to a question, JC likes his exclusives.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Agree. FF will likely play technicalities the whole way through. The only part I think he’ll really struggle with is fighting the evidence.

Playing for time by FF isn't that kind of surprising to me!

So then let the games begin on next friday! No big deal so far.

 

[mrjitty]

HCW replied to a question, JC likes his exclusives.

Trust me bro isn't journalism

 

[RichardKimble]

Agree. FF will likely play technicalities the whole way through. The only part I think he’ll really struggle with is fighting the evidence.

We only know of that which is public, I'd venture there is lots to emerge that's not known and will have far more of a bearing on proceedings.

 

[frank-cole]

HCW replied to a question, JC likes his exclusives.

Same point applies.

It’ll be interesting to know whether the increased media exposure of CB, will pull out more witnesses. He has very distinct pockedmarked/pitted-skin which hasn’t been as visible in other pictures. Certainly a very notable feature that people would remember.

 

[mrjitty]

Getting the lay judge removed for crazy SM posts isn't a technicality. This is the person who would literally help decide on a man's guilt or innocence.

 

[mrjitty]

Playing for time by FF isn't that kind of surprising to me!

So then let the games begin on next friday! No big deal so far.

I don't think they are playing for time. They just don't want a crazy person on the bench. It would be malpractice to allow that to slide

 

[frank-cole]

I don't think they are playing for time. They just don't want a crazy person on the bench. It would be malpractice to allow that to slide

That’s a fair point MrJitty & it is right they find a new lay judge. FF has delayed the inevitable via the failed technicalities pre-trial. But the prosecution did deliver it to the courtroom. I agree with super dad that aside from arguing the evidence, this trial will be fraught with technicalities & very stop-start.

 

[RichardKimble]

Getting the lay judge removed for crazy SM posts isn't a technicality. This is the person who would literally help decide on a man's guilt or innocence.

Who vetted the judge in the first place?

 

[RichardKimble]

Agree. FF will likely play technicalities the whole way through. The only part I think he’ll really struggle with is fighting the evidence.

Would you consider it prosecution failures if CB was found ng on any of the charges?

 

[frank-cole]

Would you consider it prosecution failures if CB was found ng on any of the charges?

Difficult hypothetical without the context of why not guilty verdicts may be. As admin have said before, not being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t mean innocent & that’s the worry for any prosecutor. Having evidence but not delivering a verdict would feel like justice wasn’t done & they’d failed in that regard.

 

[Trivento]

Sky News have just reported it's still being assessed whether to throw out judge or not .. adjourned for a week to make this decision .

 

[Davieson]

Difficult hypothetical without the context of why not guilty verdicts may be. As admin have said before, not being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t mean innocent & that’s the worry for any prosecutor. Having evidence but not delivering a verdict would feel like justice wasn’t done & they’d failed in that regard.

Evidence can also be wrong, otherwise we wouldn't see cases of miscarriage of justice.