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Discarded by who....which chamberObviously a higher court than the one conducting the trial.
What grounds would they have for appealing a not guilty verdict ? They've already had their bias ploy discarded.
What was reported was "the competent representatives rejected the Braunschweig public prosecutor's recusal request against the three professional judges of the chamber as unfounded.Discarded by who....which chamber
I'm sure they doWhat was reported was "the competent representatives rejected the Braunschweig public prosecutor's recusal request against the three professional judges of the chamber as unfounded.
I expect the German Courts know what they are about when deciding who would deal with the appeal.
A very fair question has been asked.Obviously a higher court than the one conducting the trial.
What grounds would they have for appealing a not guilty verdict ? They've already had their bias ploy discarded.
Im interested in the case in the children's playground. Did CB say at the time he was taking a pee...or was this said later..if so when. It's very strange he's been able to get away with that chargeIt's not sunk in as it.
Proceedings before the 2nd Criminal Division in connection with five acts against sexual self-determination - file number 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22) - motion to recuse the three professional judges unfounded
In the proceedings 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22), the responsible representatives rejected the motion to recuse the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office against the three professional judges of the division as unfounded.
If the public prosecutor's office has also filed a further motion to recuse a professional judge, a separate decision will be made on this. The result of the decision will be announced by press release.
It's not sunk in as it.
Proceedings before the 2nd Criminal Division in connection with five acts against sexual self-determination - file number 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22) - motion to recuse the three professional judges unfounded
In the proceedings 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22), the responsible representatives rejected the motion to recuse the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office against the three professional judges of the division as unfounded.
If the public prosecutor's office has also filed a further motion to recuse a professional judge, a separate decision will be made on this. The result of the decision will be announced by press release.
Im interested in the case in the children's playground. Did CB say at the time he was taking a pee...or was this said later..if so when. It's very strange he's been able to get away with that charge
There hasn’t been any acquittals or convictions for any crimes yet.Im interested in the case in the children's playground. Did CB say at the time he was taking a pee...or was this said later..if so when. It's very strange he's been able to get away with that charge
So you think there were two rapists in that smallish area with similar MOsThere hasn’t been any acquittals or convictions for any crimes yet.
This is just the court’s judgement on the prosecution’s request to get the judges removed because they were biased. It was the prosecution clutching at straws and the request was refused.
The prosecution must surely doubt that they will get a conviction for a serious crime. IMO, they should stop wasting the court’s time and admit they don’t have enough evidence in these crimes and that their MM investigation is a fantasy.
Time for someone else to have their 15 minutes.
There hasn’t been any acquittals or convictions for any crimes yet.
This is just the court’s judgement on the prosecution’s request to get the judges removed because they were biased. It was the prosecution clutching at straws and the request was refused.
The prosecution must surely doubt that they will get a conviction for a serious crime. IMO, they should stop wasting the court’s time and admit they don’t have enough evidence in these crimes and that their MM investigation is a fantasy.
Time for someone else to have their 15 minutes.
Wasnt it said it wasnt cross checked with others with similar MOS?So you think there were two rapists in that smallish area with similar MOs
He did say at the time he was taking a pee even though there were public toilets were yards away. When asked why he didn’t use the public toilets CB said he was desperate. One of the fathers of the children he exposed himself to checked the area and it was bone dry . Yet somehow the defence clutching at straws claimed maybe he was just shaking after he urinated , yet the ground was bone dry. With regard to beach assault at Salema JE picked out CB from a collection of 8 photos when she could have chose none.Im interested in the case in the children's playground. Did CB say at the time he was taking a pee...or was this said later..if so when. It's very strange he's been able to get away with that charge
wasnt she initially unsure though? until his photo was widely circulated?He did say at the time he was taking a pee even though there were public toilets were yards away. When asked why he didn’t use the public toilets CB said he was desperate. One of the fathers of the children he exposed himself to checked the area and it was bone dry . Yet somehow the defence clutching at straws claimed maybe he was just shaking after he urinated , yet the ground was bone dry. With regard to beach assault at Salema JE picked out CB from a collection of 8 photos when she could have chose none.
No she did the line up pick out first , the BKA then showed her pictures ofwasnt she initially unsure though? until his photo was widely circulated?
Is this court statements or newspaper articles?He did say at the time he was taking a pee even though there were public toilets were yards away. When asked why he didn’t use the public toilets CB said he was desperate. One of the fathers of the children he exposed himself to checked the area and it was bone dry . Yet somehow the defence clutching at straws claimed maybe he was just shaking after he urinated , yet the ground was bone dry. With regard to beach assault at Salema JE picked out CB from a collection of 8 photos when she could have chose none.
No it is not an entirely different process, the number is the same [ 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18.] this number is the one allocated, the link I provided is a press release from the Higher regional court declaring the prosecution attempt to have the three professional judges removed a failure, what's hard to grasp about that.The date of the release is 22/07/2024Your link highlights the Genesis of an apparently entirely different process from the issues which were brought before the Braunschweig court in February 2024.
The issues have not been judged and the accused has not been tried for the alleged crimes committed.
Only the innocent have been judged and found wanting by the failed process initiated in February of this year.
This process which if proven is designed for the protection of society and serving Justice for those injured by the occurrence of the crime and must allow the same entitlement enjoyed by the defence to demand a properly conducted process.
The prosecutors must have quite a good case for complaint, unless it is the norm in German trials to make definitive decisions about a trial prior to all the evidence being heard in court.
(For example we do know that the identification testimony of the rape survivor HB was unequivocally substantiated by expert witness testimony after the judges had announced their decision).
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Braunschweig – The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office considers the three professional judges in the rape trial against CB to be biased and wants to have them replaced.
The reason for this is the Decision of Wednesday, by which the arrest warrant against the accused was lifted. It is to be feared that the criminal chamber has already formed its opinion on the question of crime and guilt, although the taking of evidence is still ongoing and trial dates are scheduled until October, the public prosecutor's office said.
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